Parental support

[roguerower]

I had a nice Dell laptop for 4 years of school. Beginning of my 5th year it went tits up on me. Bought a Asus netbook to get me through the rest of the year and it worked out great. Was a little slow and the screen was a bit small, but 2 years later and it's still going strong and I can still do everything that I need to on it.

Your story is shit. My girlfriends parents make less than $50k/yr, 4 kids got through college (1 health administrator, 1 PA, 1 artist, 1 dietitian (gf)) and all are productive members of society. My girlfriend got a MBP when she started school and got it using her loans. Maybe you should look into that.

 

[TridenT]

I had a nice Dell laptop for 4 years of school. Beginning of my 5th year it went tits up on me. Bought a Asus netbook to get me through the rest of the year and it worked out great. Was a little slow and the screen was a bit small, but 2 years later and it's still going strong and I can still do everything that I need to on it.

Your story is shit. My girlfriends parents make less than $50k/yr, 4 kids got through college (1 health administrator, 1 PA, 1 artist, 1 dietitian (gf)) and all are productive members of society. My girlfriend got a MBP when she started school and got it using her loans. Maybe you should look into that.

Nah. I can make it through all of undergrad without loans. I might be able to go through grad school with no loans too, but that's up in the air right now.

 

[TridenT]

Escalade. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree eh?

What you mean, yo? I don't approve of the Escalade.

 

[hanoverphist]

If you were the favorite, you would have been in the will.

this

 

[roguerower]

Nah. I can make it through all of undergrad without loans. I might be able to go through grad school with no loans too, but that's up in the air right now.

How is that possible? Is UW a school that pays for all tuition/housing costs if your family income falls under a certain number? If so, why the hell are you against having to take out a small loan to pay for a computer?

 

[Ricemarine]

To answer the OP:

High school: No job allowed. Stayed at home.
Community college for two years through Running Start: Parent's paid. Stayed at home. Was told my 4 years @ UW would be paid by them.
UW 1st Year: 4 years of promised funding became 2 quarters. Started Stafford Loans (no benefits otherwise from FAFSA). Lived at home. Took control of my bank accounts. Started an internship for 1 year.
UW 2nd Year: Stayed at home. Saved to move out. Still on Stafford Loans. Got paid doing research and interning. Bought a laptop and netbook (was using school computers and old AMD64 rig). Switched from parent's cell phone plan to my own.
UW 3rd Year: Moved out to an apartment. On Stafford Loans. Switched research groups for funding and another part time job. Money ran out, but my parents gave me enough money to pull me through. Interned to support funding for this year.
UW 4th Year: Getting paid doing research and part time job. I should end up with enough money to pay for a trip somewhere at the end of the year.

If I could redo anything, it'd be the two years I did @ CC and the first year of UW.

 

[TridenT]

How is that possible? Is UW a school that pays for all tuition/housing costs if your family income falls under a certain number? If so, why the hell are you against having to take out a small loan to pay for a computer?

Veteran's Benefits. Father is a disabled veteran. Desert storm got him all kinds of screwed.

And the UW does have something called the Husky Promise, but that's really special circumstances I believe. Grad school will likely be paid for if I do well through the rest of my undergrad. Scholarships + possible financial aid?

 

[TridenT]

To answer the OP:

High school: No job allowed. Stayed at home.
Community college for two years through Running Start: Parent's paid. Stayed at home. Was told my 4 years @ UW would be paid by them.
UW 1st Year: 4 years of promised funding became 2 quarters. Started Stafford Loans (no benefits otherwise from FAFSA). Lived at home. Took control of my bank accounts. Started an internship for 1 year.
UW 2nd Year: Stayed at home. Saved to move out. Still on Stafford Loans. Got paid doing research and interning. Bought a laptop and netbook (was using school computers and old AMD64 rig). Switched from parent's cell phone plan to my own.
UW 3rd Year: Moved out to an apartment. On Stafford Loans. Switched research groups for funding and another part time job. Money ran out, but my parents gave me enough money to pull me through. Interned to support funding for this year.
UW 4th Year: Getting paid doing research and part time job. I should end up with enough money to pay for a trip somewhere at the end of the year.

If I could redo anything, it'd be the two years I did @ CC and the first year of UW.

I thought government pays for Running Start? (Except books I guess) That's what all the kids said.

And what would you redo about those years? Are you a grad student at UW now?

 

[Elbryn]

Veteran's Benefits. Father is a disabled veteran. Desert storm got him all kinds of screwed.

And the UW does have something called the Husky Promise, but that's really special circumstances I believe. Grad school will likely be paid for if I do well through the rest of my undergrad. Scholarships + possible financial aid?

so without your father, you wouldnt be getting the college subsidy. that doesnt count as something your parents are getting you? he paid the price for those benefits..

 

[busydude]

so without your father, you wouldnt be getting the college subsidy. that doesnt count as something your parents are getting you? he paid the price for those benefits..

WTF are you talking about? TridenT does not care about that.. he has no sense of gratitude yo!

He is a whiny bitch and he cannot stand his own parents enjoy their lives.

 

[TridenT]

so without your father, you wouldnt be getting the college subsidy. that doesnt count as something your parents are getting you? he paid the price for those benefits..

It's not like he went into the military knowing that there would be benefits like that later on... It was just 'luck' at best. He finds out, "hey, all these problems I have are caused by the war. Apparently I can get benefits for that shit now. Cool pants!"

When I was in high school it was just assumed I was majorly fucked when it came to college finance unless someone like my grandma would be helping me (Because she said she would help). That was the general idea, but then she got Alzheimers and parkinsons... so there went that! That was around junior-senior year of high school and so I was like, "FML. GG, WP fate." Then I got the benefits about a year and a half after I was enrolled at shitty community college barely doing part-time. (Even CC was expensive for my family at that time)

 

[Ricemarine]

I thought government pays for Running Start? (Except books I guess) That's what all the kids said.

And what would you redo about those years? Are you a grad student at UW now?

Yeah, RS covered tuition for fall, winter, and spring. I did summer though since I thought "it'd be cool to be ahead." Yeah... not really.

I'm not grad, got rejected from all the schools I applied to. I delayed graduating undergrad to do the internship, and for other reasons.

In terms of redoing those years, it's because I was at their mercy (I made several threads back then). Once I established and showed to them that I could manage myself and distanced myself appropriately, things got better. Of course, getting them to let me establish my own independence was a very daunting task, and did take a lot of time during my years at community college and the first two years @ UW.

 

[Zorander]

It's not like he went into the military knowing that there would be benefits like that later on... It was just 'luck' at best. He finds out, "hey, all these problems I have are caused by the war. Apparently I can get benefits for that shit now. Cool pants!"

Your father is earning those benefits as compensation for the damage he personally suffered. Why should you, who never bore the risks, get any of it?

Well, you can always do the same. If you survive, you will receive benefits too. Just make sure your offspring does not go demanding for the money like you are doing now.

Edit: I'm really trying to convey the message to please be grateful for any support that you are already receiving from your parents (whether they worked for it or gained from the state). It is well within their right to choose how they spend those benefits. Thank them for it, instead of demanding for more and being envious (both of which never lead to anything good in the long run).

 

[TridenT]

Your father is earning those benefits as compensation for the damage he personally suffered. Why should you, who never bore the risks, get any of it?

Well, you can always do the same. If you survive, you will receive benefits too. Just make sure your offspring does not go demanding for the money like you are doing now.

Here's the deal: Parents are supposed to plan for their child's future. The bare minimum is raising them until they're 18. That's not good parenting, that's just being a baby-sitter and doing your legal obligation. Since my parents did mostly baby-sitting then that's really not adequate in my eyes. I expect more and demand more because there should be more.

And I expect the same of any children I might have. Although, if I ever have children they will not have to worry a fucking bit.

 

[Schadenfreude]

So this is what it's like to post in a Trident thread.

. . . what a whiny bitch.

 

[Zorander]

Here's the deal: Parents are supposed to plan for their child's future. The bare minimum is raising them until they're 18. That's not good parenting, that's just being a baby-sitter and doing your legal obligation. Since my parents did mostly baby-sitting then that's really not adequate in my eyes. I expect more and demand more because there should be more.

Ok. Fine. I agree that parents should not merely 'babysit' their children. They should also teach the basic life principles such as discipline, moral, being financially prudent, etc. I don't know how much of these they taught you from your told perspective. I don't see why buying you stuff you want all the time (e.g. so they can stop you from bothering them for a while) will help. It won't ever end because the industry will always have the next latest gadgets to convince consumers to part with their money. It also leads you to having an entitlement mentality (as evidenced amply already).

Buy what you want with what you have saved or earned (no matter how slow the process is). It will feel so much better and you become the better person in every respect because of it.

Regards.

 

[lxskllr]

So this is what it's like to post in a Trident thread.

. . . what a whiny bitch.

It boggles my mind that someone would affect such a douchy persona in public. We're all more or less anonymous here, but still... Whether real, or trolling, at least have some self respect :^/

 

[TridenT]

Ok. Fine. I agree that parents should not merely 'babysit' their children. They should also teach the basic life principles such as discipline, moral, being financially prudent, etc. I don't know how much of these they taught you from your told perspective. I don't see why buying you stuff you want all the time (e.g. so they can stop you from bothering them for a while) will help. It won't ever end because the industry will always have the next latest gadgets to convince consumers to part with their money. It also leads you to having an entitlement mentality (as evidenced amply already).

Buy what you want with what you have saved or earned (no matter how slow the process is). It will feel so much better and you become the better person in every respect because of it.

Regards.

Bolded is where you are wrong. I never felt good about having to save and save AND SAVE my fucking money in school so I could end up spending $5,000+ on newegg for computers. I liked having those computers but I DIDN'T LIKE SAVING. I save just because I have to. I don't want to save. I don't feel good about it. I don't feel like, "Hey I earned this, blahblahblah." I feel like, "Hey, here goes my entire fucking life savings again. Here comes another endless cycle of agony that involves saving money. Here comes the, 'I can't afford this, that, this, that.' FML."

I hate saving money and spending it on shit. It's the worst. I have to part with years of work for some shit that I could have easily gotten if I just had a family that wasn't so inadequate.

Oh, and you're wrong about the whole I'll always want more shit. I'm pretty content when I have something pretty great. The only thing that changes is that the industry keeps advancing and so what I have that is great now will not be that great in a couple years. I'm fine with that as long as I can upgrade every couple years, but that's not how it works for me. I don't get to upgrade so I can play the latest games and run the latest apps.

 

[Theb]

It's not like he went into the military knowing that there would be benefits like that later on... It was just 'luck' at best. He finds out, "hey, all these problems I have are caused by the war. Apparently I can get benefits for that shit now. Cool pants!"

Are they certain his problems are from the war and not from the anguish of having to look at you and think "that was my fastest sperm...?"

 

[Engineer]

If nobody else will say it, I will:

Shut the fuck up you stupid, spoiled, whiny brat. Just shut the fuck up.

What a fucking loser you are....and based on your attitude, always will be.

/thread

 

[TridenT]

If nobody else will say it, I will:

Shut the fuck up you stupid, spoiled, whiny brat. Just shut the fuck up.

What a fucking loser you are....and based on your attitude, always will be.

/thread

Are they certain his problems are from the war and not from the anguish of having to look at you and think "that was my fastest sperm...?"

 

[Engineer]

Doesn't mean shit to me. Get over your entitled self and earn your own fucking money and buy your own shit...and finally, again...just shut the fuck up about it. It's too bad that my and other's tax money has to go toward your sorry ass in the form of education (from your dad's injury). So many people deserve it so much more.

Edit: Actually, EVERYONE deserves it more than your snobby, selfish ass.

 

[Zorander]

Bolded is where you are wrong. I never felt good about having to save and save AND SAVE my fucking money in school so I could end up spending $5,000+ on newegg for computers. I liked having those computers but I DIDN'T LIKE SAVING. I save just because I have to. I don't want to save. I don't feel good about it. I don't feel like, "Hey I earned this, blahblahblah." I feel like, "Hey, here goes my entire fucking life savings again. Here comes another endless cycle of agony that involves saving money. Here comes the, 'I can't afford this, that, this, that.' FML."

I hate saving money and spending it on shit. It's the worst. I have to part with years of work for some shit that I could have easily gotten if I just had a family that wasn't so inadequate.

You realise those train of thoughts are what lead to the 'inadequate' situation?

I also never mentioned emptying your bank account (vs spending just a portion of it) for something you want. A financial buffer is always a good thing to have especially in these difficult times.

 

[TridenT]

You realise those train of thoughts are what lead to the 'inadequate' situation?

I also never mentioned emptying your bank account (vs spending just a portion of it) for something you want. A financial buffer is always a good thing to have especially in these difficult times.

When you're as poor as I am, there is no financial buffer... It's not like I go, "Hey, I got X amount saved up. I can go buy Y! Woot pants!" And if that was to ever happen, it'd literally take years. (I'm not joking. Years to save $1,000. It's not fucking fun and neither is the resulting product when you have to save so fucking much.)

 

[TridenT]

Doesn't mean shit to me. Get over your entitled self and earn your own fucking money and buy your own shit...and finally, again...just shut the fuck up about it. It's too bad that my and other's tax money has to go toward your sorry ass in the form of education (from your dad's injury). So many people deserve it so much more.

Edit: Actually, EVERYONE deserves it more than your snobby, selfish ass.

I deserve it quite a bit. I think most people deserve a college education regardless.