panama papers

[sportage]

Does this go on in the US?
Well hmmmmm....
You could look at the 2008 housing meltdown as a clue.
And wasn't it a bit odd all the smartest minds in the room missed every sign staring them right in the face?
Or the other hand, maybe they were well aware but preferred to look the other way?
Then again and the more likely, they too profited.
As the movie THE BIG SHORT pointed out, they all knew what was happening and let it happen. Then, naturally, place all the blame on the poor and on the minorities.

But greed is quite addictive.
I doubt we will ever see a vaccine for greed.
Face it, if any of us were in the position to stash away a few billion, why wouldn't we?
I mean, wouldn't adding ones own hand into the cookie jar be quite easily justified?
And for what other reason would anyone fight so hard entering into government and politics?
You think Senator Chuck Grassley, the good ole boy from Iowa and the head of the banking committee, hasn't pocketed his share of cold hard cash from the system?
Banks sure have him in their back pocket. And he does their every bidding.

Why would it be that Ted Cruz is so eggar to become president? Or Hillary? And yes, even good old Bernie?
Because they are so righteous and dedicated to the betterment of society?
Or, could it be they too want their hand in the pot.

When you have a system where the crooks stack the deck so that they vote themselves pay raises and perks exceeding far beyond what the average sucker they represent could ever dream of, and a US Supreme Court justices retire collecting full salary for life, is this really so hard to understand?

It's not a question whether or not they all help themselves to the cookie jar, the question is can they do it while keeping a straight face?
Does Ted Cruz really see crosses of calvary in his soup? Or dollar signs?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

And Iceland's PM is the first to fall.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/05/europe/panama-papers-iceland-pm/index.html

 

[norseamd]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nister-resigns-over-panama-papers-revelations

 

[swamplizard]

Greetings Sportage,

I seriously doubt that Bernie has anything to hide. His campaign as well as his experience as a political activist is transparent.

best regards,
swampy

 

[TheVrolok]

And Iceland's PM is the first to fall.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/05/europe/panama-papers-iceland-pm/index.html

Got the NYT notification. Damn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

 

[swamplizard]

Greeting norseamd,

Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson needs to be prosecuted, IMHO. Thanks for the link, keep them coming.

best regards,
swampy

 

[Darwin333]

Yes, removing a turd and a douche from the ballot during the 2016 election cycle will tear the whole thing down lol

That's our own fault. Decent people don't want to even think about running for the office because of the dirty shit that we eat up and the necessity to compromise their ethics and morals in order to fund their campaign.

 

[Darwin333]

I also wonder if these documents will be admissible in court? I guess they could always subpoena the originals but if I was the law firm I'd be blaming the hackers on deleting the originals.

 

[swamplizard]

That's our own fault. Decent people don't want to even think about running for the office because of the dirty shit that we eat up and the necessity to compromise their ethics and morals in order to fund their campaign.

Greetings Darwin333,

Although this thread doesn't seem the place to discuss this issue, I feel it important to point out that Bernie's campaign is funded by individuals with an average of just $27 per person. No super-pacs or major contributions by corporations or billionaires are parcel to his campaign.

best regards,
swampy

 

[OutHouse]

Greetings Darwin333,

Although this thread doesn't seem the place to discuss this issue, I feel it important to point out that Bernie's campaign is funded by individuals with an average of just $27 per person. No super-pacs or major contributions by corporations or billionaires are parcel to his campaign.

best regards,
swampy

he calls them "committees"

 

[swamplizard]

he calls them "committees"

Greetings Outhouse,

What committees are you talking about and how much do they contribute, this is news for me.

Gracious regards,
swampy

 

[Sonikku]

And Iceland's PM is the first to fall.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/05/europe/panama-papers-iceland-pm/index.html

Damn. I wish Americans turned up in numbers like that to protest politicians run amok. :'( If something like this happened to say, Hillary, it probably would barely slow her down.

 

[mrjminer]

Greetings Darwin333,

Although this thread doesn't seem the place to discuss this issue, I feel it important to point out that Bernie's campaign is funded by individuals with an average of just $27 per person. No super-pacs or major contributions by corporations or billionaires are parcel to his campaign.

best regards,
swampy

Greetings Outhouse,

What committees are you talking about and how much do they contribute, this is news for me.

Gracious regards,
swampy

Greetings swamplizard,

I believe one would have to be foolish to ignore the terrible policies and philosophies promoted by a particular politician such as Bernie Sanders because they fail to garner funds through a completely legal and legitimate process through which candidates remain unbound to the biddings of donors while still permitting such donors whose beliefs align with those promoted by the candidate to thusly be represented.

Instead, I believe you should judge the politician by both the ideas they promote and their record of consistency on acting in-line with those ideas. Unfortunately, Bernie Sanders has ideas that, though obviously would be great in a Utopian world and which I have no doubt he firmly believes, are wholly unable to be paid for, devalue the merit bases under which our society thrives in multiple regards, further erode the rights of the existing citizenry, and do not align with the tenants of successful model of society, such as capitalism, which has a track record of producing the most advanced country in the world through competition and hard work, and which is only hindered by the strangling grasp of increased government and unnecessary regulation. Sadly, such a man as Bernie Sanders would further increase the size of the government and increase regulations on individuals and businesses while simultaneously taking away freedoms of the existing legal citizenry, both directly and indirectly, and decimate the country economically.

Perhaps you should consider a candidate who promotes ideas which seek to resolve the problems of our country, such as Ted Cruz, instead of promoting a candidate that would simply add to the problems of our country, such as Bernie Sanders?

Most munificent regards

 

[Jhhnn]

Damn. I wish Americans turned up in numbers like that to protest politicians run amok. :'( If something like this happened to say, Hillary, it probably would barely slow her down.

Such a negative attitude.

International Banksters really laid the bone to Iceland during the financial crisis. They're also a small & tight knit society so they're very touchy about any sort of corruption relating to that, rightfully so.

America is different, of course. Repubs nominated a master of international finance for President in 2012 & none of them felt any qualms at all. The one year's tax return he didn't make public was the year the IRS allowed tax amnesty for previously undeclared offshore accounts.

Go figure.

 

[UberNeuman]

Greetings swamplizard,

I believe one would have to be foolish to ignore the terrible policies and philosophies promoted by a particular politician such as Bernie Sanders because they fail to garner funds through a completely legal and legitimate process through which candidates remain unbound to the biddings of donors while still permitting such donors whose beliefs align with those promoted by the candidate to thusly be represented.

Instead, I believe you should judge the politician by both the ideas they promote and their record of consistency on acting in-line with those ideas. Unfortunately, Bernie Sanders has ideas that, though obviously would be great in a Utopian world and which I have no doubt he firmly believes, are wholly unable to be paid for, devalue the merit bases under which our society thrives in multiple regards, further erode the rights of the existing citizenry, and do not align with the tenants of successful model of society, such as capitalism, which has a track record of producing the most advanced country in the world through competition and hard work, and which is only hindered by the strangling grasp of increased government and unnecessary regulation. Sadly, such a man as Bernie Sanders would further increase the size of the government and increase regulations on individuals and businesses while simultaneously taking away freedoms of the existing legal citizenry, both directly and indirectly, and decimate the country economically.

Perhaps you should consider a candidate who promotes ideas which seek to resolve the problems of our country, such as Ted Cruz, instead of promoting a candidate that would simply add to the problems of our country, such as Bernie Sanders?

Most munificent regards

That's a long way to go for a joke.

 

[Jhhnn]

Greetings swamplizard,

I believe one would have to be foolish to ignore the terrible policies and philosophies promoted by a particular politician such as Bernie Sanders because they fail to garner funds through a completely legal and legitimate process through which candidates remain unbound to the biddings of donors while still permitting such donors whose beliefs align with those promoted by the candidate to thusly be represented.

Instead, I believe you should judge the politician by both the ideas they promote and their record of consistency on acting in-line with those ideas. Unfortunately, Bernie Sanders has ideas that, though obviously would be great in a Utopian world and which I have no doubt he firmly believes, are wholly unable to be paid for, devalue the merit bases under which our society thrives in multiple regards, further erode the rights of the existing citizenry, and do not align with the tenants of successful model of society, such as capitalism, which has a track record of producing the most advanced country in the world through competition and hard work, and which is only hindered by the strangling grasp of increased government and unnecessary regulation. Sadly, such a man as Bernie Sanders would further increase the size of the government and increase regulations on individuals and businesses while simultaneously taking away freedoms of the existing legal citizenry, both directly and indirectly, and decimate the country economically.

Perhaps you should consider a candidate who promotes ideas which seek to resolve the problems of our country, such as Ted Cruz, instead of promoting a candidate that would simply add to the problems of our country, such as Bernie Sanders?

Most munificent regards

Flat tax trickle down Ted, huh?

Even the Trumpsters are hip to his shit.

 

[swamplizard]

Greetings swamplizard,

I believe one would have to be foolish to ignore the terrible policies and philosophies promoted by a particular politician such as Bernie Sanders because they fail to garner funds through a completely legal and legitimate process through which candidates remain unbound to the biddings of donors while still permitting such donors whose beliefs align with those promoted by the candidate to thusly be represented.

Instead, I believe you should judge the politician by both the ideas they promote and their record of consistency on acting in-line with those ideas. Unfortunately, Bernie Sanders has ideas that, though obviously would be great in a Utopian world and which I have no doubt he firmly believes, are wholly unable to be paid for, devalue the merit bases under which our society thrives in multiple regards, further erode the rights of the existing citizenry, and do not align with the tenants of successful model of society, such as capitalism, which has a track record of producing the most advanced country in the world through competition and hard work, and which is only hindered by the strangling grasp of increased government and unnecessary regulation. Sadly, such a man as Bernie Sanders would further increase the size of the government and increase regulations on individuals and businesses while simultaneously taking away freedoms of the existing legal citizenry, both directly and indirectly, and decimate the country economically.

Perhaps you should consider a candidate who promotes ideas which seek to resolve the problems of our country, such as Ted Cruz, instead of promoting a candidate that would simply add to the problems of our country, such as Bernie Sanders?

Most munificent regards

Greetings mrjminer,

Bernie is merely trying to bring the wealthiest nation in the history of the world into the sphere of industrialized countries. Many of his proposals have long since been adopted and incorporated to the benefit of the common person in European nations, without ruining their capitalist capacity. If Ted Cruz were the only candidate running, I would put in a write-in vote for Bernie or Elizabeth Warren. Thanks for the civility and tasteful word usage.

Sincerest regards,
swampy

 

[WelshBloke]

Such a negative attitude.

International Banksters really laid the bone to Iceland during the financial crisis. They're also a small & tight knit society so they're very touchy about any sort of corruption relating to that, rightfully so.

America is different, of course. Repubs nominated a master of international finance for President in 2012 & none of them felt any qualms at all. The one year's tax return he didn't make public was the year the IRS allowed tax amnesty for previously undeclared offshore accounts.

Go figure.

Forgive me if I'm reading this wrong but you seem to be implying that if someone is found out to be guilty of impropriety that should be ignored if they otherwise gel with your political views?

 

[Atreus21]

Such a negative attitude.

International Banksters really laid the bone to Iceland during the financial crisis. They're also a small & tight knit society so they're very touchy about any sort of corruption relating to that, rightfully so.

America is different, of course. Repubs nominated a master of international finance for President in 2012 & none of them felt any qualms at all. The one year's tax return he didn't make public was the year the IRS allowed tax amnesty for previously undeclared offshore accounts.

Go figure.

He's just so EVIL. He failed to file a tax RETURN THAT RAT BASTARD.

 

[woolfe9998]

Incredible number of references in this thread to specific American politicians, considering not a single one is implicated by the document release which is the subject of the thread. I guess partisanship is not something which can be turned off, not matter the topic at hand...

 

[Sonikku]

Greetings swamplizard,

I believe one would have to be foolish to ignore the terrible policies and philosophies promoted by a particular politician such as Bernie Sanders because they fail to garner funds through a completely legal and legitimate process through which candidates remain unbound to the biddings of donors while still permitting such donors whose beliefs align with those promoted by the candidate to thusly be represented.

Instead, I believe you should judge the politician by both the ideas they promote and their record of consistency on acting in-line with those ideas. Unfortunately, Bernie Sanders has ideas that, though obviously would be great in a Utopian world and which I have no doubt he firmly believes, are wholly unable to be paid for, devalue the merit bases under which our society thrives in multiple regards, further erode the rights of the existing citizenry, and do not align with the tenants of successful model of society, such as capitalism, which has a track record of producing the most advanced country in the world through competition and hard work, and which is only hindered by the strangling grasp of increased government and unnecessary regulation. Sadly, such a man as Bernie Sanders would further increase the size of the government and increase regulations on individuals and businesses while simultaneously taking away freedoms of the existing legal citizenry, both directly and indirectly, and decimate the country economically.

Perhaps you should consider a candidate who promotes ideas which seek to resolve the problems of our country, such as Ted Cruz, instead of promoting a candidate that would simply add to the problems of our country, such as Bernie Sanders?

Most munificent regards

Greetings, mrjminer.

This is an intriguing thought and I appreciate you elaborating upon it.

Regards, Sonikku.

 

[Jeff7]

This will all end uneventful. We like our corrupt leaders, governments and organizations. As long as we get our Kardashians and Smartphones to plug our brain into and go numb we don't bother.

Sadly, this is true. I've alluded to this a few times on here.

Maybe.

Is there any sign of corruption that involves professional basketball, football, or associated fantasy-league games?

 

[Linux23]

fuck, i thought this was about a toilet paper shortage in Panama.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Forgive me if I'm reading this wrong but you seem to be implying that if someone is found out to be guilty of impropriety that should be ignored if they otherwise gel with your political views?

For Jhhnn, yes. He's all about the D.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Flat tax trickle down Ted, huh?

Even the Trumpsters are hip to his shit.

You forgot to mention VAT Tax Ted