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retrospooty

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Originally posted by: dahunan

Yor bitterness blinds you.. wonder if it could be racism since it is so ugly and deep

Not necesarily... He could just be a complete idiot. No need to call him racist.

Not all idiots are racist. All racists are idiots.
 

Jhhnn

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IMO, this story should be looked at instead of being glossed over because right now - neither side has much support for their claims.

As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser. This whole thing has been looked over time and time again by a multitude of investigators, both left and right, yet there's nothing there...

But we should look at it again and again, apparently because if a lie is repeated often enough, it's believed to be the truth...

A few days ago, iirc, CSG dragged the whole Rev Wright thing out of the trash, tried to spiff it up as some kind of "issue", so he's clearly on the mailing list, along with Palin. So what's next? Rezko, Elitist! or the Sekrit Mooslim thing?

I liked it better when the mindless convention twits were chanting "USA!USA!USA!" to drown out anything they didn't want to hear... tells us just how much "change" we can expect from a McCain presidency at the head of that pack of fools.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From CSG-

IMO, this story should be looked at instead of being glossed over because right now - neither side has much support for their claims.

As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser. This whole thing has been looked over time and time again by a multitude of investigators, both left and right, yet there's nothing there...

But we should look at it again and again, apparently because if a lie is repeated often enough, it's believed to be the truth...

A few days ago, iirc, CSG dragged the whole Rev Wright thing out of the trash, tried to spiff it up as some kind of "issue", so he's clearly on the mailing list, along with Palin. So what's next? Rezko, Elitist! or the Sekrit Mooslim thing?

I liked it better when the mindless convention twits were chanting "USA!USA!USA!" to drown out anything they didn't want to hear... tells us just how much "change" we can expect from a McCain presidency at the head of that pack of fools.

Well you can never prove a negative, and the accusers haven't shown any evidence other than some vague guilt by association for any of their wild accusations, so I guess that must just mean that both sides are equal!!

That's how it works... right?
 

senseamp

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McCain is getting desperate, and grasping for straws.
Every dirty attack just alienates more independent voters who still some sort of positive image of McCain from 2000 left.
 

syzygy

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From CSG-

IMO, this story should be looked at instead of being glossed over because right now - neither side has much support for their claims.

As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser. This whole thing has been looked over time and
time again by a multitude of investigators, both left and right, yet there's nothing there....

There are people who will humor an issue just so they can assume a posture of fairness and equip themselves
with handy talking points to refute the other side to their small-minded satisfaction. Its a trait common to most
ideologues.

Humor me now:

First, Obama chose to join a corporate board of which Ayers was a member, a person who is not only a terrorist
but founded the Weather Underground. As far as I know, Obama has never denied NOT knowing Ayers by reputation
and history. Correct me if I am wrong.

Second, Obama has issued condemnations of Ayers recently, during his run for president, for obvious self-serving
reasons, but did he do so while they were on the board together. If he knew Ayers was a terrorist, did he ask him
to explain his actions, to apologize, to say something in defense of his despicable crimes ? Perhaps Ayers did. He
said sorry, etc. But Obama has said nothing about this. What he has said, rather tellingly, is to describe Ayers as
an 'old man', implying he should be left alone - and invoking pity to defend him.

Again, why.

Bin Laden is an old man too. Reverend Wright too. Lenin was an old man once as well. Obama's other defense was
to say he was only 8 years old when Ayers made his evil reputation. What ? That is unintentionally funny and he
is suppose to be the smart, eloquent one.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From CSG-

IMO, this story should be looked at instead of being glossed over because right now - neither side has much support for their claims.

As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser. This whole thing has been looked over time and time again by a multitude of investigators, both left and right, yet there's nothing there...

But we should look at it again and again, apparently because if a lie is repeated often enough, it's believed to be the truth...

A few days ago, iirc, CSG dragged the whole Rev Wright thing out of the trash, tried to spiff it up as some kind of "issue", so he's clearly on the mailing list, along with Palin. So what's next? Rezko, Elitist! or the Sekrit Mooslim thing?

I liked it better when the mindless convention twits were chanting "USA!USA!USA!" to drown out anything they didn't want to hear... tells us just how much "change" we can expect from a McCain presidency at the head of that pack of fools.

I did? I don't remember posting about BHO's radical preacher in quite a while. You have a link to where you think I stated something "A few days ago"?
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: dahunan
Yes.. at EIGHT years old Obama was probalby there with the guy helping him plan and pay for attacks

Yor bitterness blinds you.. wonder if it could be racism since it is so ugly and deep

Do you enjoy filling your fists with straw?

:laugh:

Typical BHO apologist.... straight to the diversions and strawman...

Where I come from the burden of proof is on the accuser. I have yet to see a shred of proof that Obama had any meaningful connections to any of these people. It looks to me like typical smear tactics.

If we're going to start throwing out baseless accusations why don't you explain to me why John McCain chose to spend his 70th birthday aboard a private yacht owned by the now ex-bf of Anne Hathaway who is spending time in jail for fraud? We have actual photo evidence of that.

http://gawker.com/assets/image...2008/09/mccainRF2.jpeg
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From CSG-

IMO, this story should be looked at instead of being glossed over because right now - neither side has much support for their claims.

As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser. This whole thing has been looked over time and time again by a multitude of investigators, both left and right, yet there's nothing there...

But we should look at it again and again, apparently because if a lie is repeated often enough, it's believed to be the truth...

A few days ago, iirc, CSG dragged the whole Rev Wright thing out of the trash, tried to spiff it up as some kind of "issue", so he's clearly on the mailing list, along with Palin. So what's next? Rezko, Elitist! or the Sekrit Mooslim thing?

I liked it better when the mindless convention twits were chanting "USA!USA!USA!" to drown out anything they didn't want to hear... tells us just how much "change" we can expect from a McCain presidency at the head of that pack of fools.

Well you can never prove a negative, and the accusers haven't shown any evidence other than some vague guilt by association for any of their wild accusations, so I guess that must just mean that both sides are equal!!

That's how it works... right?

The problem with you(and the others in this case) is that I took issue with DM's post in which HE made a claim and I asked him to provide backup. He posted where he got the claim from, so I posted why the claim isn't exactly "proof". YOU people don't want to(can't) prove a negative and the other side can't prove the claim - mainly due to no one(except a few right-wing) has REALLY looked into the history. It's mainly been glossed over.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
When did that standard start to apply?

Or does it only apply when talking about Republican allegations?

Look at the crap the left has thrown at McCain and Palin and show me where the burden of proof has been placed on those making the claim.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Where I come from the burden of proof is on the accuser. I have yet to see a shred of proof that Obama had any meaningful connections to any of these people. It looks to me like typical smear tactics.

If we're going to start throwing out baseless accusations why don't you explain to me why John McCain chose to spend his 70th birthday aboard a private yacht owned by the now ex-bf of Anne Hathaway who is spending time in jail for fraud? We have actual photo evidence of that.

http://gawker.com/assets/image...2008/09/mccainRF2.jpeg
I see your photo with a criminal and raise it with one of my own.
Obama Rezko
and another
Obama and Kwame
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
When did that standard start to apply?

Or does it only apply when talking about Republican allegations?

Look at the crap the left has thrown at McCain and Palin and show me where the burden of proof has been placed on those making the claim.

Please show any release from the Obama campaign that comes even close the the slime and the smears that are coming out of the McCain campaign.

This is what you forget (or conveniently ignore). If Moveon.org makes an ad Obama doesn't like, in the end he can't stop them from airing it. This horrendous shit is coming straight from the 'straight talker' himself. Not that I was going to vote for him anyway, but I've lost an awful lot of respect for John McCain in the last 3 months or so. He's showed that all the BS he talks about improving the tenor of politics is thrown in the trash for the sake of his ambition.

He always condemned ads like his in the past... until he started losing. Now it looks like he's going to lose this election in part because of his dishonesty.

Fitting.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Where I come from the burden of proof is on the accuser. I have yet to see a shred of proof that Obama had any meaningful connections to any of these people. It looks to me like typical smear tactics.

If we're going to start throwing out baseless accusations why don't you explain to me why John McCain chose to spend his 70th birthday aboard a private yacht owned by the now ex-bf of Anne Hathaway who is spending time in jail for fraud? We have actual photo evidence of that.

http://gawker.com/assets/image...2008/09/mccainRF2.jpeg
I see your photo with a criminal and raise it with one of my own.
Obama Rezko
and another
Obama and Kwame

Playing the picture game is stupid. Politicians have their pictures taken with thousands of people.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
When did that standard start to apply?

Or does it only apply when talking about Republican allegations?

Look at the crap the left has thrown at McCain and Palin and show me where the burden of proof has been placed on those making the claim.

Please show any release from the Obama campaign that comes even close the the slime and the smears that are coming out of the McCain campaign.

This is what you forget (or conveniently ignore). If Moveon.org makes an ad Obama doesn't like, in the end he can't stop them from airing it. This horrendous shit is coming straight from the 'straight talker' himself. Not that I was going to vote for him anyway, but I've lost an awful lot of respect for John McCain in the last 3 months or so. He's showed that all the BS he talks about improving the tenor of politics is thrown in the trash for the sake of his ambition.

He always condemned ads like his in the past... until he started losing. Now it looks like he's going to lose this election in part because of his dishonesty.

Fitting.
Well McCain is getting his ass kicked when it comes to talking about the issues so out of desperation he has to try something and this ploy seems to be his only solution.
 

syzygy

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Originally posted by: senseamp
McCain is getting desperate, and grasping for straws.
Every dirty attack just alienates more independent voters who still some sort of positive image of McCain from 2000 left.

I think people will see a pattern in a man who has been a media darling for so long. Long, long overdue, they will see in-depth:

- his long association with Reverend Wright. A very telling timeline about he tried to salvage his relationship with him but only
ended their contact when the good Reverend refused to kowtow to Obama's wishes that he slither into the shadows gracelessly.

- his mutual interests with a known and unapologeticterrorist on some corporate board. They will hopefully look into some of
the group they approved funds for and why Obama chose to even sit on a board with Ayers as a a member. Would Obama
have sat on that board if it had a Klansman ? Or is there something about Ayer's despicable conduct that Obama finds satisfying
that the poor Klansman, old man he too, totally lacks.

- Obama's willingness to sit down with a Holocaust denier for reconciliation talks without precondition.

- Highlight Biden's withering criticisms of Obama durng the Democratic campaign. Obama chose a who thinks McCain is
a better presidential candidate than him, and he has in Biden a man who castigated him on stage during the Democratic
primaries for voting AGAINST better armor for our troops in Iraq. Combine that Ahmadinejad's clandestine operations in
Iraq that have led to American casualties and you have a man who will sit down with a Holcaust denier and abettor of
American troop deaths, No Preconditions Required.

Priceless.

Win McCain.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: senseamp
McCain is getting desperate, and grasping for straws.
Every dirty attack just alienates more independent voters who still some sort of positive image of McCain from 2000 left.

I think people will see a pattern in a man who has been a media darling for so long. Long, long overdue, they will see in-depth:

- his long association with Reverend Wright. A very telling timeline about he tried to salvage his relationship with him but only
ended their contact when the good Reverend refused to kowtow to Obama's wishes that he slither into the shadows gracelessly.

- his mutual interests with a known and unapologeticterrorist on some corporate board. They will hopefully look into some of
the group they approved funds for and why Obama chose to even sit on a board with Ayers as a a member. Would Obama
have sat on that board if it had a Klansman ? Or is there something about Ayer's despicable conduct that Obama finds satisfying
that the poor Klansman, old man he too, totally lacks.

- Obama's willingness to sit down with a Holocaust denier for reconciliation talks without precondition.

- Highlight Biden's withering criticisms of Obama durng the Democratic campaign. Obama chose a who thinks McCain is
a better presidential candidate than him, and he has in Biden a man who castigated him on stage during the Democratic
primaries for voting AGAINST better armor for our troops in Iraq. Combine that Ahmadinejad's clandestine operations in
Iraq that have led to American casualties and you have a man who will sit down with a Holcaust denier and abettor of
American troop deaths, No Preconditions Required.

Priceless.

Win McCain.
Unfortunately for you and the McCain supporters the polls say exactly the opposite.

 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: senseamp
McCain is getting desperate, and grasping for straws.
Every dirty attack just alienates more independent voters who still some sort of positive image of McCain from 2000 left.

I think people will see a pattern in a man who has been a media darling for so long. Long, long overdue, they will see in-depth:

- his long association with Reverend Wright. A very telling timeline about he tried to salvage his relationship with him but only
ended their contact when the good Reverend refused to kowtow to Obama's wishes that he slither into the shadows gracelessly.

- his mutual interests with a known and unapologeticterrorist on some corporate board. They will hopefully look into some of
the group they approved funds for and why Obama chose to even sit on a board with Ayers as a a member. Would Obama
have sat on that board if it had a Klansman ? Or is there something about Ayer's despicable conduct that Obama finds satisfying
that the poor Klansman, old man he too, totally lacks.

- Obama's willingness to sit down with a Holocaust denier for reconciliation talks without precondition.

- Highlight Biden's withering criticisms of Obama durng the Democratic campaign. Obama chose a who thinks McCain is
a better presidential candidate than him, and he has in Biden a man who castigated him on stage during the Democratic
primaries for voting AGAINST better armor for our troops in Iraq. Combine that Ahmadinejad's clandestine operations in
Iraq that have led to American casualties and you have a man who will sit down with a Holcaust denier and abettor of
American troop deaths, No Preconditions Required.

Priceless.

Win McCain.

Are you stoned? The media has been beating that dead horse for months now. Especially with Reverend Wright, there were several weeks where you couldn't turn on a TV without seeing some talking head pontificating about it. I don't know what it's like in conservative fantasy land, but here on planet Earth, Obama has been anything BUT a "media darling". That's just a pitiful excuse that you guys go back to mostly out of habit than anything else.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: senseamp
McCain is getting desperate, and grasping for straws.
Every dirty attack just alienates more independent voters who still some sort of positive image of McCain from 2000 left.

I think people will see a pattern in a man who has been a media darling for so long. Long, long overdue, they will see in-depth:

- his long association with Reverend Wright. A very telling timeline about he tried to salvage his relationship with him but only
ended their contact when the good Reverend refused to kowtow to Obama's wishes that he slither into the shadows gracelessly.

- his mutual interests with a known and unapologeticterrorist on some corporate board. They will hopefully look into some of
the group they approved funds for and why Obama chose to even sit on a board with Ayers as a a member. Would Obama
have sat on that board if it had a Klansman ? Or is there something about Ayer's despicable conduct that Obama finds satisfying
that the poor Klansman, old man he too, totally lacks.

- Obama's willingness to sit down with a Holocaust denier for reconciliation talks without precondition.

- Highlight Biden's withering criticisms of Obama durng the Democratic campaign. Obama chose a who thinks McCain is
a better presidential candidate than him, and he has in Biden a man who castigated him on stage during the Democratic
primaries for voting AGAINST better armor for our troops in Iraq. Combine that Ahmadinejad's clandestine operations in
Iraq that have led to American casualties and you have a man who will sit down with a Holcaust denier and abettor of
American troop deaths, No Preconditions Required.

Priceless.

Win McCain.

Hahaha, did you cut and paste these from freep? All you wrote was the frothing of a hard right ideologue. Most people don't think like you.

The Rev. Wright thing has been covered to death. If people were going to dislike Obama for him they already do. It covered the media for the better part of a month.

The Ayers/Klansman thing is such a mess of unsupported speculation unfounded assumptions, and a poor factual basis that I don't know where to start.

Most Americans think that the next President should meet with Ahmadinejad.

Priceless indeed.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Go figure - another thread where the BHO apologists try to divert and diminish...at all costs.

As of 10/3/08, your Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal have squandered the lives of 4,177 American troops, and tens of thousands more are wounded, scarred and disabled for life in their war of LIES in Iraq.
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That's more than the number of people killed in the attacks of 9-11, and there's no end in sight! :shocked:

John McCain was pimping invading Iraq even before the Bushwhackos announced their intention to do it, and he has repeatedly stated that he wants to keep it going indefinitely. That makes him and those who support his vision of keeping it an endless war as much terrorists as Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and all the Al Qaeda wannabes. :thumbsdown: :|

That's not diversion. That's truth.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Even with all the spin on that "article", it proves Obama is trying to cover up a past association with someone.

False, and you're clearly one of those people who will believe anything that supports your candidate or slanders the opposing candidate.

This makes you a partisan hack. You were given a large brain by mistake, since for you the spinal cord would suffice.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: senseamp
McCain is getting desperate, and grasping for straws.
Every dirty attack just alienates more independent voters who still some sort of positive image of McCain from 2000 left.

I think people will see a pattern in a man who has been a media darling for so long. Long, long overdue, they will see in-depth:

- his long association with Reverend Wright. A very telling timeline about he tried to salvage his relationship with him but only
ended their contact when the good Reverend refused to kowtow to Obama's wishes that he slither into the shadows gracelessly.

- his mutual interests with a known and unapologeticterrorist on some corporate board. They will hopefully look into some of
the group they approved funds for and why Obama chose to even sit on a board with Ayers as a a member. Would Obama
have sat on that board if it had a Klansman ? Or is there something about Ayer's despicable conduct that Obama finds satisfying
that the poor Klansman, old man he too, totally lacks.

- Obama's willingness to sit down with a Holocaust denier for reconciliation talks without precondition.

- Highlight Biden's withering criticisms of Obama durng the Democratic campaign. Obama chose a who thinks McCain is
a better presidential candidate than him, and he has in Biden a man who castigated him on stage during the Democratic
primaries for voting AGAINST better armor for our troops in Iraq. Combine that Ahmadinejad's clandestine operations in
Iraq that have led to American casualties and you have a man who will sit down with a Holcaust denier and abettor of
American troop deaths, No Preconditions Required.

Priceless.

Win McCain.

You're just another frothing conservative wackjob. For your sake, I hope you don't honestly believe half of the things in your post because it demonstrates an attitude of ignorance and unjust hate.

Did you come up with any of that yourself, or was all of it fed to you by the Republican overlords? Off the top of my head, most of your post is either lies or speculation without factual basis.

Priceless

Win Obama
 

Jhhnn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From CSG-

IMO, this story should be looked at instead of being glossed over because right now - neither side has much support for their claims.

As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser. This whole thing has been looked over time and time again by a multitude of investigators, both left and right, yet there's nothing there...

But we should look at it again and again, apparently because if a lie is repeated often enough, it's believed to be the truth...

A few days ago, iirc, CSG dragged the whole Rev Wright thing out of the trash, tried to spiff it up as some kind of "issue", so he's clearly on the mailing list, along with Palin. So what's next? Rezko, Elitist! or the Sekrit Mooslim thing?

I liked it better when the mindless convention twits were chanting "USA!USA!USA!" to drown out anything they didn't want to hear... tells us just how much "change" we can expect from a McCain presidency at the head of that pack of fools.

I did? I don't remember posting about BHO's radical preacher in quite a while. You have a link to where you think I stated something "A few days ago"?


It was your tag team partner, PJ-

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...&keyword1=obama+wright

Same shit from the Right, different day...

Don't look at any real issues, look at this, over here! Nevermind the economy, or the banking system in collapse, due to our erstwhile deregulation buddies, McCain among them... Nevermind Iraq, or the bogus WoT... Losing your job, home? Price of gas and insurance killing you? Groceries? How about your 401K? Nevermind that- Obama is a Leftist, I tell ya! A Mooslim! a sekrit Racist! An Elitist! A terrarist sympathizer!

One of Us! POW! USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!

Yeh, you get the mindless twit vote, for sure.

Say, how about we drag out the Keating 5 again?
Flipflops on abortion?
Flipflops on taxcuts at the top?
Flipflops on the economy, in the same day, no less?
Drama King heads to Washington, doesn't do squat when he gets there?
Flipflops on deregulation?
How about that experience thing, now that he's taken caribou barbie as his plan B, just in case his old ticker quits? Can you say Moose in the headlights?

We'll see a lot more slime before this is over because it's all the McCain camp has to offer. Dealing with the issues and the temperament of the candidates is pure poison for them, and they know it.

So, uhh, have at it- here's hoping that your best efforts end up flying back in your face, like pissin' into the wind.




 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Never heard Obama actually admit it and then say he was sorry. He just made excuses.

Ever hear bush or any poloitician say they were sorry for murdering so many iraqis

Ever hear CAD say he was sorry for terrorizing Iraqi citizens
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
When did that standard start to apply?

Or does it only apply when talking about Republican allegations?

Look at the crap the left has thrown at McCain and Palin and show me where the burden of proof has been placed on those making the claim.

Of course the burden of proof is on the accuser. McCain's wife has had 15 abortions and McCain was the real killer in the OJ Simpson trial. See how easy it is? Most people won't believe that bullshit, but it will still sway a few of the less intelligent voters. It's a despicable mud slinging tactic to make up lies about your opponent or to draw conclusions about them without evidence.

Please list anything that Obama/Biden has said that is even on the same order of magnitude as Sarah Palin's ridiculous trash talk and we'll start talking about some of the 'crap' that the left has thrown. Please, name even one instance that comes close to accusing Obama of being friends with terrorists.

Let's go over the facts

- From the NY Times analysis - "the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.'"
Here we see Obama publicly denouncing Bill Ayers

- Several other publications, including the Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The National Review, have debunked the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship.
Thus, we see consistent fact-checking has demonstrating that they have no close relationship. The National Review is a hardcore righty publication and even they said that the relationship is absurd, if that tells you something.

- Obama is ahead in the polls; if we had an election today, Obama would probably win more than enough electoral votes. Obviously the tactics employed by the Republicans so far are not working, so perhaps it is time for a change in pace a la Swiftboat Veterans. All is fair in love and war, right? The Republicans have consistently proven that they are not above overt lies for the sake of victory.

- "We're going to get a little tougher," a senior Republican operative said, requesting anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss strategy. "We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here."
A McCain guy speaks out

- Obama and Ayers met at meeting for a school reform project in 1995 and again later that year. Then, Ayers hosted an event where then-Illinois state Sen. Alice Palmer, who planned to run for Congress, introduced the young community organizer as her chosen successor, campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said. Both men also served on a charitable board together, he said.
As anyone can plainly see, their 'relationship' is little more than as acquaintances. They happen to live in the same neighborhood, and as a politically active person it's obvious that Ayers would have some activity in his neighborhood. Ayers' hosted a party for the previous Senator, where Obama's name was mentioned, it was NOT a party for obama.

- Labolt also said the two have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Obama came to the U.S. Senate in 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they encountered each other on the street in their Hyde Park neighborhood.
 

TechAZ

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: piasabird
Never heard Obama actually admit it and then say he was sorry. He just made excuses.

Ever hear bush or any poloitician say they were sorry for murdering so many iraqis

Ever hear CAD say he was sorry for terrorizing Iraqi citizens

Seek help.