Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
As usual, and as the Rightwing conveniently forgets, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
When did that standard start to apply?
Or does it only apply when talking about Republican allegations?
Look at the crap the left has thrown at McCain and Palin and show me where the burden of proof has been placed on those making the claim.
Of course the burden of proof is on the accuser. McCain's wife has had 15 abortions and McCain was the real killer in the OJ Simpson trial. See how easy it is? Most people won't believe that bullshit, but it will still sway a few of the less intelligent voters. It's a despicable mud slinging tactic to make up lies about your opponent or to draw conclusions about them without evidence.
Please list anything that Obama/Biden has said that is even on the same order of magnitude as Sarah Palin's ridiculous trash talk and we'll start talking about some of the 'crap' that the left has thrown. Please, name even one instance that comes close to accusing Obama of being friends with terrorists.
Let's go over the facts
- From the NY Times analysis - "the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.'"
Here we see Obama publicly denouncing Bill Ayers
- Several other publications, including the Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The National Review, have debunked the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship.
Thus, we see consistent fact-checking has demonstrating that they have no close relationship. The National Review is a hardcore righty publication and even they said that the relationship is absurd, if that tells you something.
- Obama is ahead in the polls; if we had an election today, Obama would probably win more than enough electoral votes. Obviously the tactics employed by the Republicans so far are not working, so perhaps it is time for a change in pace a la Swiftboat Veterans. All is fair in love and war, right? The Republicans have consistently proven that they are not above overt lies for the sake of victory.
- "We're going to get a little tougher," a senior Republican operative said, requesting anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss strategy. "We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here."
A McCain guy speaks out
- Obama and Ayers met at meeting for a school reform project in 1995 and again later that year. Then, Ayers hosted an event where then-Illinois state Sen. Alice Palmer, who planned to run for Congress, introduced the young community organizer as her chosen successor, campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said. Both men also served on a charitable board together, he said.
As anyone can plainly see, their 'relationship' is little more than as acquaintances. They happen to live in the same neighborhood, and as a politically active person it's obvious that Ayers would have some activity in his neighborhood. Ayers' hosted a party for the previous Senator, where Obama's name was mentioned, it was NOT a party for obama.
- Labolt also said the two have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Obama came to the U.S. Senate in 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they encountered each other on the street in their Hyde Park neighborhood.