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Farang

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Originally posted by: RichardE I understand why the Palestinians feel the way they do but just don't really care due to a number of reasons, you on the other hand have no idea about the other side .

I find it amusing that you spend a large paragraph arguing how he is a different type of zealout than you but right in the middle you admit to being exactly the same as him. What's to keep you from knowing he 'understands why the Israelis feel the way they do but just does not really care'
 

fallout man

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Originally posted by: RichardE
your a warmonger who is bloodthirsty like everyone else just on a different side.

Totally man. I've been fapping to BBC photo pages of Palestinian casualties all day, but then again I prefer them a little brown. I'm pretty cool racially...

However, the enterprise is pretty labor intensive, because it's difficult to find many pictures of adults among the casualties. That's one line I'm not willing to cross with regard to fapping.

Stupid fucking liberal BBC bias! :roll:
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: palehorse
I do not see this conflict ending until one of the two parties is expelled from the region entirely. Even if they form two distinct states, there are too many local and international elements who will encourage and support future attacks against Israel. Groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as nations like Iran, will never stop their crusade to remove Israel from the ME -- never.

The Arab ego is a terrible thing to waste.

 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: RichardE I understand why the Palestinians feel the way they do but just don't really care due to a number of reasons, you on the other hand have no idea about the other side .

I find it amusing that you spend a large paragraph arguing how he is a different type of zealout than you but right in the middle you admit to being exactly the same as him. What's to keep you from knowing he 'understands why the Israelis feel the way they do but just does not really care'

The difference as I stated if you had actually read it all, is I still understand why the Palestinians do what they do, but the existence of Israel is more important to me than the existence of Hamas.

Dahunan doesn't care how many jews die, as long as they die since for some reason he thinks the "idea" of Israel is wrong, yet he doesn't know why he thinks its wrong besides they took land in a defensive war.
 

ericlp

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: ericlp
Holy Shit!

PJ, RichardE and Common Courtesy better get on the phone and dial in the credit card numbers! Who the hell paid for this ad? The bush admin? What a friggen joke? How many died of rockets? I think you'd have worse chances driving in LA!

Christ on a fucken busted crutch don't we give them enough of our tax money in weapons? Now they want you to call in 50 bucks so you can slap that we support Israel sticker on your bumper? Sheesh!!!!!!!!

What a joke!

You send your money to "Kill Innocent Jews today!" coalition yet?


Still remember your support of Hamas using civilians as human shields, what a joke you can be at times :laugh:

Fuck Israel I wouldn't give em a pot to piss in...

Nor would I to Hamas / Iran / Iraq or any other country you jack off too.

 

Farang

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: RichardE I understand why the Palestinians feel the way they do but just don't really care due to a number of reasons, you on the other hand have no idea about the other side .

I find it amusing that you spend a large paragraph arguing how he is a different type of zealout than you but right in the middle you admit to being exactly the same as him. What's to keep you from knowing he 'understands why the Israelis feel the way they do but just does not really care'

The difference as I stated if you had actually read it all, is I still understand why the Palestinians do what they do, but the existence of Israel is more important to me than the existence of Hamas.

Dahunan doesn't care how many jews die, as long as they die since for some reason he thinks the "idea" of Israel is wrong, yet he doesn't know why he thinks its wrong besides they took land in a defensive war.

My point was there is no practical difference in the nature of each of your beliefs, although you seem to find some by using what can only be described as a psychic power to delve into the thought process behind those beliefs. That process, however, you discovered it (and I am quite impressed and think you should be out there making a lot of money off of this power), is irrelevant.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: RichardE I understand why the Palestinians feel the way they do but just don't really care due to a number of reasons, you on the other hand have no idea about the other side .

I find it amusing that you spend a large paragraph arguing how he is a different type of zealout than you but right in the middle you admit to being exactly the same as him. What's to keep you from knowing he 'understands why the Israelis feel the way they do but just does not really care'

The difference as I stated if you had actually read it all, is I still understand why the Palestinians do what they do, but the existence of Israel is more important to me than the existence of Hamas.

Dahunan doesn't care how many jews die, as long as they die since for some reason he thinks the "idea" of Israel is wrong, yet he doesn't know why he thinks its wrong besides they took land in a defensive war.

My point was there is no practical difference in the nature of each of your beliefs, although you seem to find some by using what can only be described as a psychic power to delve into the thought process behind those beliefs. That process, however, you discovered it (and I am quite impressed and think you should be out there making a lot of money off of this power), is irrelevant.

I didn't realize analyzing what someone says counts as psychic power..
 

PowerEngineer

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There must be many broken pipes in Gaza now. :(

(CNN) ? Joe Wurzelbacher: Plumber. Campaign celebrity. Foreign correspondent?

?Joe the Plumber? is headed overseas to try his hand at covering the conflict in Gaza, Wurzelbacher?s publicist Thomas Tabback confirmed to CNN Wednesday.

Wurzelbacher plans to spend 10 days in Israel reporting on the conflict for pjtv.com, a Web site run by conservative media outlet Pajamas Media.

The famous plumber will be focusing on the Israeli perspective on the situation. "It's tragic, I mean it really is,? Wurzelbacher told CNN affiliate WNWO ?I don't say that in any little way. It's very tragic, but at the same time what are the Israeli people supposed to do.?

Wurzelbacher told WNWO he?s not worried about the potential dangers of his new gig. "Being a Christian I'm pretty well protected by God I believe. That's not saying he's going to stop a mortar for me, but you gotta take the chance,? he told the CNN affiliate.

?Israeli officials are very excited to have him,? Tabback told CNN.

Joe the plumber headed to Middle East
 

Farang

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I'll try to clarify here again.

You: I understand the Palestinians concerns but do not care at all, and am a supporter of Israel.
OP: I am opposed to Israel.

Therefore you are completely disregarding Palestinian concerns, making your understanding of them irrelevant as they do not enter into your equation. So let's revisit the disagreement with that established.

You: I am a supporter of Israel.
OP: I am opposed to Israel.

See? There is absolutely no difference between you two in regards to the nature of your beliefs (absolute), so you attempting to look into the OP's brain and see if he understands Israeli concerns (which he just might for all we know, but disregards just as you do) is pointless.
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: palehorse
I do not see this conflict ending until one of the two parties is expelled from the region entirely. Even if they form two distinct states, there are too many local and international elements who will encourage and support future attacks against Israel. Groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as nations like Iran, will never stop their crusade to remove Israel from the ME -- never.

The Arab ego is a terrible thing to waste.

And so is the Jewish ego.
 

ericlp

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He needs to go back to plumbing school.


I half wonder who is behind his 'New Gig'? I bet he worked a deal in with McSame.



 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I am neutral

Bwhaahaha ....you owe me a new laptop.

I'm sure a Hamas member would say the exact same thing. You extremist wackjobs can't see past your own noses.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: palehorse
I do not see this conflict ending until one of the two parties is expelled from the region entirely. Even if they form two distinct states, there are too many local and international elements who will encourage and support future attacks against Israel. Groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as nations like Iran, will never stop their crusade to remove Israel from the ME -- never.

Crusades? Crusades were defensive wars against raping robbing and killing of Gentile pilgrims to the holy land and piracy of shipping of Gentile fleets. I wonder from whom...hmmm...I think the word you're looking for is Jihad.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I am neutral

Bwhaahaha ....you owe me a new laptop.

I'm sure a Hamas member would say the exact same thing. You extremist wackjobs can't see past your own noses.

Extremist means informed these days.

Try reading some other sources than self hating liberals and Jihadist publications would be s good start for unbiased quest.

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_overview.php
 

AreaCode7O7

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I am neutral

Bwhaahaha ....you owe me a new laptop.

I'm sure a Hamas member would say the exact same thing. You extremist wackjobs can't see past your own noses.

I'll be honest; from a point of an observer with no skin in the game, you do seem to post in favor of Palestine often, and sometimes enthusiastically so.
 

kylebisme

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It only makes sense that PM would get a complete moron to run propaganda for Israel. Anyone with more than two brain cells over there long enough might figure out the fact that Israel's ongoing colonization of Palestinian territory is perpetrating this conflict.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: PowerEngineer

There must be many broken pipes in Gaza now. :(

(CNN) ? Joe Wurzelbacher: Plumber. Campaign celebrity. Foreign correspondent?

?Joe the Plumber? is headed overseas to try his hand at covering the conflict in Gaza, Wurzelbacher?s publicist Thomas Tabback confirmed to CNN Wednesday.

Wurzelbacher plans to spend 10 days in Israel reporting on the conflict for pjtv.com, a Web site run by conservative media outlet Pajamas Media.

The famous plumber will be focusing on the Israeli perspective on the situation. "It's tragic, I mean it really is,? Wurzelbacher told CNN affiliate WNWO ?I don't say that in any little way. It's very tragic, but at the same time what are the Israeli people supposed to do.?

Wurzelbacher told WNWO he?s not worried about the potential dangers of his new gig. "Being a Christian I'm pretty well protected by God I believe. That's not saying he's going to stop a mortar for me, but you gotta take the chance,? he told the CNN affiliate.

?Israeli officials are very excited to have him,? Tabback told CNN.

Joe the plumber headed to Middle East

This will end badly.
 

Lemon law

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Just what we need, more ill thought out drivel from Joe.

After all, Joe hardly saved the GOP in 08. For every one idiot who believes a damn thing Joe has to say, he alienates far many more. Even Limbaugh can come up with better drivel.

At least drivel merchants don't need a license, plumbers do. Have monkey wrench, will travel.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I'm neutral and I think the ideal endgame should be a single state where Israelis and Palestinians alike can live together, if not in perfect harmony, at least without blowing each other up..

How do you plan to solve the Jewish refusal to allow Palastenians to become a majority, which they would, in their democratic country, and therevy gain control of the government?

When is that going to happen? Jews, the worst kind, fundis who take their religion seriously like Muslims do, are having all the babies in Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/921392.html
http://www.worldtribune.com/wo...454229.0708333333.html

The only thing that could change Israels demographic lean towards the Muslims is
the so-called 'right to return'
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707

I'll be honest; from a point of an observer with no skin in the game, you do seem to post in favor of Palestine often, and sometimes enthusiastically so.

I've got no skin in the game either, aside from tax dollars going to support Israel as they continue perpetuate this conflict with their ongoing colonization of the West Bank, and the blowback we get from terrorists who see the injustices we perpetrate on Palestinian and others as an excuse to commit their own injustices against us. For the sake of people on all sides of this mindless conlifct, I want to start working to stop it.

Zebo on the other hand is a diehard for Israel, he even chastised me the other day for not referring to the West Bank using the Biblical Hebrew names for the region. He claims Israel is intitied to colonize all that and more, with no regards for how much more blood will be spilled on both sides as this madness continues. He is a real beliver in the battle of civlizatons, much the same ilk as Hamas.

By the way, I replied last night to some questions you asked me in another thread, see here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear