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ViciouS

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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Does your sister rent from you under a formal agreement (a lease that you both signed)?

I'm not sure that she has many rights as a tenant if you basically "rent" to her under a verbal agreement. You should not be constrained by any landlord/tenant relationship so far as having her removed from the house.

But of course, research the laws in your own state.


No agreement, but under Florida law if she has been here more that 4 months you can't just kick them out. That's not my major problem it's being able to handle the bills when she leaves. My mom pays for me right now until SSD starts coming in. If it wasn?t for my mom helping out I would have lost my house a long time ago. 1. I do it in a way mom doesn?t get mad. 2. I have to be able to cover the 2/5s of the bills she is paying once she leaves. I have 3 potential roommates. One is currently rooming with a friend, but doesn?t like it. The second my VERY responsible brother who has his own LEGIT business is living with his girlfriends parents and is not that happy there. Third is one of my Ass hole friends that would be really difficult to live with, and is a total slob; probably not nearly as tuff as living with my sister though. I've told them all except the slob about the newly vacated spot all seem interested, but need more convincing.
 

ViciouS

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Originally posted by: Judgement
How did you last this long with the frequent attacks without viciously assualting the son?

I'm not sure what the policies are against self-defense when the person is only considered a minor and you're a lot greater than them in size, but I don't think I would have had the self control to not at least land a blow or two.

You have more self discipline than I, thats probably worth some respect even if you're not exactly handling the situation the way it should be. You need to call the cops regardless of the rent problem. I'd rather be evicted and have a bad credit history then end up in jail for some sh!t these assholes will try to spin around and pin on you; its obvious those people, despite being family, don't give a sh!t about you or your/their futures.

I have wound up getting "RUFF" with him and my sister. I do feel like i'm getting worse and worse though. I'm being able to control my self less each time. That?s why I need them out as soon as possible. My biggest fear is loosing control and hitting them. Whether self defense or not they get bruised the cops are taking down the 6'4" male first. If I hit them there won?t be much of a fight after that. It would probably end all their attacks, but she threatened to call the cops when it was her hitting me. I can imagine what she will do if I hit back one time. I'll end up in jail for sure. I want to avoid that. I need to get them out before I loose it.

Today he "tried" me again. I let it go, but I had a really short fuse, I got really pissed at something petty and nearly exploded. I threw my wallet across the room and kicked a door. All because a calling card I purchased had 700 less minutes less than it said it would. So my fuse is getting shorter and I normally don?t loose it that easily.
 

thomsbrain

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stuff on curb. change the locks. if they come around again, get a restraining order. put 911 on speed dial.
 

Judgement

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Originally posted by: ViciouS
Originally posted by: Judgement
How did you last this long with the frequent attacks without viciously assualting the son?

I'm not sure what the policies are against self-defense when the person is only considered a minor and you're a lot greater than them in size, but I don't think I would have had the self control to not at least land a blow or two.

You have more self discipline than I, thats probably worth some respect even if you're not exactly handling the situation the way it should be. You need to call the cops regardless of the rent problem. I'd rather be evicted and have a bad credit history then end up in jail for some sh!t these assholes will try to spin around and pin on you; its obvious those people, despite being family, don't give a sh!t about you or your/their futures.

I have wound up getting "RUFF" with him and my sister. I do feel like i'm getting worse and worse though. I'm being able to control my self less each time. That?s why I need them out as soon as possible. My biggest fear is loosing control and hitting them. Whether self defense or not they get bruised the cops are taking down the 6'4" male first. If I hit them there won?t be much of a fight after that. It would probably end all their attacks, but she threatened to call the cops when it was her hitting me. I can imagine what she will do if I hit back one time. I'll end up in jail for sure. I want to avoid that. I need to get them out before I loose it.

Today he "tried" me again. I let it go, but I had a really short fuse, I got really pissed at something petty and nearly exploded. I threw my wallet across the room and kicked a door. All because a calling card I purchased had 700 less minutes less than it said it would. So my fuse is getting shorter and I normally don?t loose it that easily.



He sounds like a little twirp and being so young you can't really strike him and get away with it. I'd probably pick up up by his arms, carry him outside onto the grass and throw him as far as I could onto his back and ask him if he realizes the only reason you let him live is because his mom is your sister.


EDIT: Don't listen to me. I have a bad history of handling things violently and I'm not exactly sober at the moment.
 

ViciouS

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Originally posted by: Judgement
Originally posted by: ViciouS
Originally posted by: Judgement
How did you last this long with the frequent attacks without viciously assualting the son?

I'm not sure what the policies are against self-defense when the person is only considered a minor and you're a lot greater than them in size, but I don't think I would have had the self control to not at least land a blow or two.

You have more self discipline than I, thats probably worth some respect even if you're not exactly handling the situation the way it should be. You need to call the cops regardless of the rent problem. I'd rather be evicted and have a bad credit history then end up in jail for some sh!t these assholes will try to spin around and pin on you; its obvious those people, despite being family, don't give a sh!t about you or your/their futures.

I have wound up getting "RUFF" with him and my sister. I do feel like i'm getting worse and worse though. I'm being able to control my self less each time. That?s why I need them out as soon as possible. My biggest fear is loosing control and hitting them. Whether self defense or not they get bruised the cops are taking down the 6'4" male first. If I hit them there won?t be much of a fight after that. It would probably end all their attacks, but she threatened to call the cops when it was her hitting me. I can imagine what she will do if I hit back one time. I'll end up in jail for sure. I want to avoid that. I need to get them out before I loose it.

Today he "tried" me again. I let it go, but I had a really short fuse, I got really pissed at something petty and nearly exploded. I threw my wallet across the room and kicked a door. All because a calling card I purchased had 700 less minutes less than it said it would. So my fuse is getting shorter and I normally don?t loose it that easily.



He sounds like a little twirp and being so young you can't really strike him and get away with it. I'd probably pick up up by his arms, carry him outside onto the grass and throw him as far as I could onto his back and ask him if he realizes the only reason you let him live is because his mom is your sister.


EDIT: Don't listen to me. I have a bad history of handling things violently and I'm not exactly sober at the moment.


Outside toss hasn't been done yet. He usually has a couch or a door to break his fall. An outside throw would send a much clearer message. Once he sees how long the run back to me is he might not consider fighting anymore. And that?s not really bad, it's still not hitting him, it might make things a little more clear for him.
 

Judgement

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Originally posted by: ViciouS
Originally posted by: Judgement
Originally posted by: ViciouS
Originally posted by: Judgement
How did you last this long with the frequent attacks without viciously assualting the son?

I'm not sure what the policies are against self-defense when the person is only considered a minor and you're a lot greater than them in size, but I don't think I would have had the self control to not at least land a blow or two.

You have more self discipline than I, thats probably worth some respect even if you're not exactly handling the situation the way it should be. You need to call the cops regardless of the rent problem. I'd rather be evicted and have a bad credit history then end up in jail for some sh!t these assholes will try to spin around and pin on you; its obvious those people, despite being family, don't give a sh!t about you or your/their futures.

I have wound up getting "RUFF" with him and my sister. I do feel like i'm getting worse and worse though. I'm being able to control my self less each time. That?s why I need them out as soon as possible. My biggest fear is loosing control and hitting them. Whether self defense or not they get bruised the cops are taking down the 6'4" male first. If I hit them there won?t be much of a fight after that. It would probably end all their attacks, but she threatened to call the cops when it was her hitting me. I can imagine what she will do if I hit back one time. I'll end up in jail for sure. I want to avoid that. I need to get them out before I loose it.

Today he "tried" me again. I let it go, but I had a really short fuse, I got really pissed at something petty and nearly exploded. I threw my wallet across the room and kicked a door. All because a calling card I purchased had 700 less minutes less than it said it would. So my fuse is getting shorter and I normally don?t loose it that easily.



He sounds like a little twirp and being so young you can't really strike him and get away with it. I'd probably pick up up by his arms, carry him outside onto the grass and throw him as far as I could onto his back and ask him if he realizes the only reason you let him live is because his mom is your sister.


EDIT: Don't listen to me. I have a bad history of handling things violently and I'm not exactly sober at the moment.


Outside toss hasn't been done yet. He usually has a couch or a door to break his fall. An outside throw would send a much clearer message. Once he sees how long the run back to me is he might not consider fighting anymore. And that?s not really bad, it's still not hitting him, it might make things a little more clear for him.


Yeah thats pretty much what my line of thinking was, just make sure you double read my disclaimer and know that I can't be held liable but you can :beer:
 

Ns1

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good god man, why is this thread even still alive? you should call the cops, get them both out of there
 

ViciouS

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I hear you, but hes punched me in the face and i thought "its ok to hit him now" and i can't do it. I couldnt even slap him so i just held him down. Throwing him across the lawn isn't bad if he hit me.
 

Judgement

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Originally posted by: ViciouS
I hear you, but hes punched me in the face and i thought "its ok to hit him now" and i can't do it. I couldnt even slap him so i just held him down. Throwing him across the lawn isn't bad if he hit me.

Throwing him across the lawn wouldn't even have been bad if all he did was sell drugs in your house without your permission. Hell you would be doing him a favor; I hope he honestly believes when he is 18 and they put sh!theads like him in jail for that kinda crap that he will be able to romp around in the same manner. He will be put in his place eventually, just make sure you don't end up in jail because you were scared to act before you end up in jail also.
 

ViciouS

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Originally posted by: Judgement
Originally posted by: ViciouS
I hear you, but hes punched me in the face and i thought "its ok to hit him now" and i can't do it. I couldnt even slap him so i just held him down. Throwing him across the lawn isn't bad if he hit me.

Throwing him across the lawn wouldn't even have been bad if all he did was sell drugs in your house without your permission. Hell you would be doing him a favor; I hope he honestly believes when he is 18 and they put sh!theads like him in jail for that kinda crap that he will be able to romp around in the same manner. He will be put in his place eventually, just make sure you don't end up in jail because you were scared to act before you end up in jail also.


The kid shows no one respect. It's not just me. He is not a big kid either just full of all the sh1t he talks.
 

ViciouS

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Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor
evil begets evil. making your point across physically will only make it worse. advise a higher authority.

I agree, I noticed last time things got physical he told everyone he was going to kill me and the next day he was up to his same games. i also feel like crap after i get physical back.
 

Judgement

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Originally posted by: ViciouS
Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor
evil begets evil. making your point across physically will only make it worse. advise a higher authority.

I agree, I noticed last time things got physical he told everyone he was going to kill me and the next day he was up to his same games. i also feel like crap after i get physical back.

That little sh!t stain told people he was going to kill you? I honestly have no idea how you keep control. You need to get the authorities involved as soon as possible (i.e. tomorrow). I'm far from the most tolerant person, and its obvious you're not a whole lot better... everyone has a breaking point and it doesn't seem like yours is far off.
 

ViciouS

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Originally posted by: Judgement
Originally posted by: ViciouS
Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor
evil begets evil. making your point across physically will only make it worse. advise a higher authority.

I agree, I noticed last time things got physical he told everyone he was going to kill me and the next day he was up to his same games. i also feel like crap after i get physical back.

That little sh!t stain told people he was going to kill you? I honestly have no idea how you keep control. You need to get the authorities involved as soon as possible (i.e. tomorrow). I'm far from the most tolerant person, and its obvious you're not a whole lot better... everyone has a breaking point and it doesn't seem like yours is far off.

Im going to do it without cops. That way they can never blame me for fvcking up there lives or anything. I can handle this myself. It may seem like its out of control but think i still have a grip on it.
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: ViciouS
Calling cops on family, is not somthing I'm considering. I know I'm taking a chance because I could end up being the one with the cops called on in the near future. My sister could attack me its happend before.

If you are not willing to involve the police, you deserve whatever the courts do to you when they're caught.

exactly

Agreed. I can't see why the opions of the members here are sought, but only to discount involving the police. Your sister won't be able to attack you if they lock her up long enough.

I don't think there is any reasoning with a drug addict or drug dealer.
 

Judgement

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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: ViciouS
Calling cops on family, is not somthing I'm considering. I know I'm taking a chance because I could end up being the one with the cops called on in the near future. My sister could attack me its happend before.

If you are not willing to involve the police, you deserve whatever the courts do to you when they're caught.

exactly

Agreed. I can't see why the opions of the members here are sought, but only to discount involving the police. Your sister won't be able to attack you if they lock her up long enough.

I don't think there is any reasoning with a drug addict or drug dealer.


I'm not one for turning against family members despite the reasoning behind it, but if I felt like they would turn me in to cover their ass for sh!t they did that I had nothing to do with I doubt I would hesitate to bust their ass.
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: ViciouS
Originally posted by: Judgement
Originally posted by: ViciouS
Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor
evil begets evil. making your point across physically will only make it worse. advise a higher authority.

I agree, I noticed last time things got physical he told everyone he was going to kill me and the next day he was up to his same games. i also feel like crap after i get physical back.

That little sh!t stain told people he was going to kill you? I honestly have no idea how you keep control. You need to get the authorities involved as soon as possible (i.e. tomorrow). I'm far from the most tolerant person, and its obvious you're not a whole lot better... everyone has a breaking point and it doesn't seem like yours is far off.

Im going to do it without cops. That way they can never blame me for fvcking up there lives or anything. I can handle this myself. It may seem like its out of control but think i still have a grip on it.

But if they F! up your life and if your house were seized and charges were levied against you because you own the house, it would be a different story?
 

ViciouS

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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: ViciouS
Originally posted by: Judgement
Originally posted by: ViciouS
Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor
evil begets evil. making your point across physically will only make it worse. advise a higher authority.

I agree, I noticed last time things got physical he told everyone he was going to kill me and the next day he was up to his same games. i also feel like crap after i get physical back.

That little sh!t stain told people he was going to kill you? I honestly have no idea how you keep control. You need to get the authorities involved as soon as possible (i.e. tomorrow). I'm far from the most tolerant person, and its obvious you're not a whole lot better... everyone has a breaking point and it doesn't seem like yours is far off.

Im going to do it without cops. That way they can never blame me for fvcking up there lives or anything. I can handle this myself. It may seem like its out of control but think i still have a grip on it.

But if they F! up your life and if your house were seized and charges were levied against you because you own the house, it would be a different story?


Good point
 

Turkish

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If you don't call the cops, shame on you. I know calling cops on family may be hard on you, but its for your, their and the society's good. Think of all the people your sister and nephew are probably putting in trouble. I bet they try to get more people addicted everyday. Please do the right thing and call the cops.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: ViciouS
Calling cops on family, is not somthing I'm considering. I know I'm taking a chance because I could end up being the one with the cops called on in the near future. My sister could attack me its happend before.

Well "Mushing" your nephews is assualt. If you don't get rid of them you just might find yourself out of the house due to a restraing order if they file charges against you for assualt.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: skace
Shens sounds about right.

Yep cause no one could be that stupid. Either that or he's not telling the whole story and he's doing illegal things as well, hence the no cop-calling.