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xj0hnx said:
Seems it wasn't political in nature, the only people that made it political were the left that immediately blamed Palin, Rush, and Conservatives in general.
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Link?

Local reports indicated that he became enraged with her when she refused to answer a policy question at a similar local event some time ago. That seems political to me.
 
JeffreyLebowski said:
Reader. He's a damn fine READER. WE've sen what happens when the TOTUS fails.
I will give him credit that he didn't blame the Republicans and the right wing media.
He did point out, like a lot of other people have, that the political devide in the country has gotten to such a point that people like Perknose are now calling people fucking assholes. Only fucking assholes call people fucking assholes.
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Was he using a prompter while holding an open floor debate with the entire GOP congressional caucus? Had to be since he made them look very foolish in that. So much so that they declined a follow up session.
 
Pens1566 said:
Was he using a prompter while holding an open floor debate with the entire GOP congressional caucus? Had to be since he made them look very foolish in that. So much so that they declined a follow up session.
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Dude, he was obviously aimbotting and wall-hacking that time.
 
Tab said:
He shot congress women and judge. He shot them, because, in his own words, were holding back the country. He read plenty of absurd anarchist material. Granted, he probably really didn't know what was going on due to his scizophernia.
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Yes, he shot a congresswoman and a judge (someone who just happened to be in the crowd). He had an issue with the congresswoman but I still don't think it was politically motivated.


Tab said:
Probably, but things like putting crosshairs over someone district, or a meme of "don't retreat, reload" is cleary something that doesn't need to used in politics.

Now I don't think there should be any laws made banning this behavior but I don't believe it's something that should be tolerated in politics, no matter how direct or seemlying vauge.
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Get both sides to agree..........like that will ever happen.
 
CycloWizard said:
His duties and powers are explicitly spelled out in the Constitution. None of these includes spending government funds to travel across the country in order to give a motivational speech/eulogy. Is it his job to be the head of the executive branch of government or a celebrity speaker?
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Get your Constitution right. Funds for executive travel are appropriated by Congress. He is allowed to make travel arrangements as he pleases with those funds. If you want him to sit in an office all day and sign papers, you are bitching about the wrong branch.

I have some respect for the strict Constructionist position. I don't want people running roughshod over the Constitution. However, it always baffles me when people go as far as you do. I have to simply shake my head and wonder how you've managed to become so obtuse.

When the Constitution was written, the idea of "traveling across the country" didn't exist. We didn't have much of a country to travel across, let alone the ability to do so in a matter of hours. His ability to function as head of the executive branch was in no way limited, as he was flying on an Aircraft so sophisticated that if the Founding Fathers had seen it they would have been utterly terrified.

We have a grand total of two nationally elected representatives. The President and Vice President. When someone directs violent action against the Constitution, it is their sworn duty to respond. There is plenty of evidence that this was an intentional attack on a democratically elected federal representative. That's an attack on the foundation of our federal legislative body, which means it's an attack on the Constitution. Prior to doing so he dispatched appropriate officials to begin a federal investigation.

However, I doubt any of that rings true with you.....so I'll bring something else up.

This is the topic and time you choose to angst about Executive Overreach on a forum? The President flying to give a speech after a Congresswoman was shot while meeting with her constituents? When we have undeclared wars being waged, people being locked up without being charged, and god knows what else. Yet you choose to attack him for flying to AZ in order to offer what condolences he could? How petty can you get? You claim to have no political affiliation, but it's fairly obvious based on your posts that you do. "Troll."
 
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Londo_Jowo said:
Yes, he shot a congresswoman and a judge (someone who just happened to be in the crowd). He had an issue with the congresswoman but I still don't think it was politically motivated.
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Expect it is politically motivated by the fact he a congress women and he even wrote it was! Did you even read pass the headlines?

Londo_Jowo said:
Get both sides to agree..........like that will ever happen.
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I don't know about you, but I think it would be possible for everyone to agree that attempting to incite violence agaisnt your political oppenents no matter how vauge is wrong and shouldn't be done. Of course, they may continue to do so but I doubt it'll be as an effective stragety.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Yes, he shot a congresswoman and a judge (someone who just happened to be in the crowd). He had an issue with the congresswoman but I still don't think it was politically motivated.
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Right. He was furious with her because ... her dog shit in his yard? She cut him off in traffic? Was blocking the twinkies in the supermarket? 🙄
 
Londo_Jowo said:
No, he was pissed because she didn't take his question seriously and was fake in his sick mind.
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And his question was political, and she was a politician...

So how is this not politically motivated exactly? Just because he's a nutjob doesn't mean he wasn't acting out due to politics. They're not mutually exclusive (as evidenced... all over the damn place).
 
Tab said:
I can't find any information because he murdered a bunch of persons because she didn't answer a question.

Now, do you know what you're talking about or not?
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Ok, where's the proof that he committed this crime due to political reasons. Please show where he stated his motives.
 
jackstar7 said:
And his question was political, and she was a politician...

So how is this not politically motivated exactly? Just because he's a nutjob doesn't mean he wasn't acting out due to politics. They're not mutually exclusive (as evidenced... all over the damn place).
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"What good is government when words have no meaning?"

Deeply political man 🙄
 
IBMer said:
You don't seem to understand basic concepts. Most people read in their heads. He is actually speaking, thus is a speaker as the words are being vocalized.

Same ole' right wing talking points. Are you guys capable of independent thought?
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Funny, when I go to a book READING, people are READING the book OUT LOUD.
Typical left wing idiocy.
A true, gifted orator can give a moving, motivational speech without reading it back.

Stop acting like this guy is some great person because he can read. I'm glad he can read. It helps our literacy stats.
 
Tab said:
He shot congress women and judge. He shot them, because, in his own words, were holding back the country. He read plenty of absurd anarchist material. Granted, he probably really didn't know what was going on due to his scizophernia.



Probably, but things like putting crosshairs over someone district, or a meme of "don't retreat, reload" is cleary something that doesn't need to used in politics.

Now I don't think there should be any laws made banning this behavior but I don't believe it's something that should be tolerated in politics, no matter how direct or seemlying vauge.
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Except that the Dems didn't seem to mind using that tactic with the crosshairs, in the 04 or was it 06 elections.
 
Pens1566 said:
Was he using a prompter while holding an open floor debate with the entire GOP congressional caucus? Had to be since he made them look very foolish in that. So much so that they declined a follow up session.
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"um, err. um, uhhh, err" And I quote Obama.

Face it, Liberals/Dems/Leftists will never see anything wrong with Obama and think anything he say is golden and a Burn on Republicans.
People with the ability to think and rationalize, think Obama's a fool most of the time and only occassionally has anything worth while to say.

Let's all go have a beer summit.
 
xj0hnx said:
Apparently what started his fixation was a question he asked her in 2007, and her answer didn't satisfy him.
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OK, so he was set off 3 years ago, a year before Obama, a year before the political divide in this nation.
But as typical, the left will use any action as an excuse to blame the right or shift the blame from the person culpable.
The guy that pulled the trigger is a mental whackjob. Case closed.
It's all the partisan hacks that are making this a political issue, when in fact it is a psychological issue. The trigger of his breakdown is immaterial, the fact is he was mentally unstable, and even though sources pointed it out, the "system" failed and let him continue down the road he was on.
If you want to blame someone, blame the people that didn't intervine earlier.
 
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