jackstar7
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IMHO, this event will be to Obama's presidency as "Mission Accomplished" was to GWB's.
Show your work.
IMHO, this event will be to Obama's presidency as "Mission Accomplished" was to GWB's.
IMHO, this event will be to Obama's presidency as "Mission Accomplished" was to GWB's.
I posted a link to Article II of the Constitution (you know, the part of that pesky document which explicitly states the role of the president?), which was subsequently ignored by all of you. Assuming you aren't capable of clicking the supplied link, here they are:He's just toying with you. Everyone with half a brain knows this is part of the president's job and it is expected.
Your fail-flail of irrational arguments not withstanding, there's not much use for you in this debate any more...you're just a broken record hurting everyone's ears. Repeating it ad-nauseam doesn't make you seem any more coherent...just another boorish oaf who doesn't know when he's been laughed off the stage.
IMHO, this event will be to Obama's presidency as "Mission Accomplished" was to GWB's.
hahaha you guys are so desperate for obama to be as bad as bush. When you try and compare every fuck up with bush all you are doing is reminding us of bushes fuck ups.
Just realized what happened, I somehow got him and CAD confused...honestly thought I was talking to the same person.
If you mean a good job performance used shamelessly by the other side, probably. Bush's "Mission Accomplished" was entirely appropriate; a military unit is tasked with a certain set of goals, of which "win the war and stop all fighting" is not one. Obama's trip to speak at a memorial for those wounded and murdered - including a dead federal judge and a nearly dead sitting Congresswoman - is also entirely appropriate. Many of the things we expect of a President - fix the economy, for example - are almost entirely out of his control. But to represent the country at times like this is entirely within his responsibility and his ability, and he seems to have done it very well. I decry those who printed tee shirts (crass!) and those who shouted adulation at Obama as though it was indeed a political pep rally, but Obama himself did an excellent job. I fail to see why anyone would criticize him for his performance, or for choosing to go. But then I failed to see why Bush was criticized for "Mission accomplished" either.IMHO, this event will be to Obama's presidency as "Mission Accomplished" was to GWB's.
I posted a link to Article II of the Constitution (you know, the part of that pesky document which explicitly states the role of the president?), which was subsequently ignored by all of you. Assuming you aren't capable of clicking the supplied link, here they are:
Section 2: Presidential powers
Clause 1: Command of military; Opinions of cabinet secretaries; Pardons
Clause 2: Advice and Consent Clause (treaties and appointments)
Clause 3: Recess appointments
Section 3: Presidential responsibilities
Clause 1: State of the Union
Clause 2: Calling Congress into extraordinary session; adjourning Congress
Clause 3: Receiving foreign representatives
Clause 4: Caring for the faithful execution of the law
Clause 5: Officers' Commission
Notably absent from the list: eulogizing random citizens, giving motivational speeches, using federal resources for personal travel, or using federal resources to improve the government/president's image. Those are the facts. I'm sorry if they conflict with your opinions.
I don't think we'll hear a peep about it in a year, other than it was a horrible event.
LOL@U, I hated Bush more then anybody I know in real life. I was accused of having BDS more then Micheal Jackson has been accused of being a pedophile.
Try again.
Bush was an idiot, but at least he was on "vacation" while clearing brush. Did that require clarification?I don't see "clearing brush" in there either. Don't recall you bitching about that though.
Now back to you arguing for the sake of arguing ...
You're an idiot who can't read or, if we admit that you're literate, can't understand a clearly constructed sentence. Which is it?You're just a broken record hurting everyone's ears. Repeating it ad-nauseam doesn't make you seem any more coherent...just another boorish oaf who doesn't know when he's been laughed off the stage.
If you mean a good job performance used shamelessly by the other side, probably. Bush's "Mission Accomplished" was entirely appropriate; a military unit is tasked with a certain set of goals, of which "win the war and stop all fighting" is not one. Obama's trip to speak at a memorial for those wounded and murdered - including a dead federal judge and a nearly dead sitting Congresswoman - is also entirely appropriate. Many of the things we expect of a President - fix the economy, for example - are almost entirely out of his control. But to represent the country at times like this is entirely within his responsibility and his ability, and he seems to have done it very well. I decry those who printed tee shirts (crass!) and those who shouted adulation at Obama as though it was indeed a political pep rally, but Obama himself did an excellent job. I fail to see why anyone would criticize him for his performance, or for choosing to go. But then I failed to see why Bush was criticized for "Mission accomplished" either.
Odd, since I am a creature of both edges rather than the middle, you'd think I'd take issue with both. Instead I find fault with neither.
It depends on what happens in the next 2 years.
Bush was an idiot, but at least he was on "vacation" while clearing brush. Did that require clarification?
of course you did.
Bush was an idiot, but at least he was on "vacation" while clearing brush. Did that require clarification?
I'm not following.
The event will be seen as, what, that he surrounded himself with a bunch of idiots? Only those of us who already thought that will continue to do so. Lest you believe showcasing it rubs people the wrong way... but let's face it, they'll be loyal to the party and its benefits long before they let a disrespectful crowd mean anything.
What's the worst it comes down to, a poor choice of venue on Obama's part? It does not mean anything.
hahaha you guys are so desperate for obama to be as bad as bush.
When you try and compare every fuck up with bush all you are doing is reminding us of bushes fuck ups.
Ah. I'd argue that both were genuinely trying to do the best they could, the first honoring servicemen and women who put their lives on the line, the second honoring those in public service. I'm sure the right will behave toward Obama just as the left did with Bush, but I'm pretty far right (at least where I'm not pretty far left) and I think he did a pretty good job. It made me like him a bit more. Or dislike him a bit less, perhaps.[/b]
I find no "fault", it's more like seeing the writing on the proverbial wall. To me, both of their actions were nothing more then political grandstanding in an attempt by them to play to their political bases.
I voted for Bush in the second election. I would have voted for him in the first as well (although I was a Keyester rather than a Bushie, I despise Gore enough to be pulled away from the Libertarian Party in the general election) had I not been sent out of town right before the election. In fact Bush was my first Republican presidential vote since Reagan. I liked some of what he did, and I'll defend him where I think he did well. Also, I'll defend his intentions as well as where I think he did bad, but with good intentions.its amazing how we cant find one person who liked and voted for bush. Yet he even won the second election. How is this possible?
