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Orange stain second term results thread

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What's the number your MAGA crew thinks is the real one is all I'm asking.

unlike you I'm not a xenophobic racist, so no, I don't see illegals everywhere I look, so I got nothing in response to your question.

Had enough of your shit. I really hope you have a fucking miserable 4 years under Trump! lol

I will vote Trump 3rd term just to piss you off!

If anyone wants to blame me.. don't.. blame squishy. His fucking constant abuse is going to make me vote a way I didn't want to!
 
Had enough of your shit. I really hope you have a fucking miserable 4 years under Trump! lol

I will vote Trump 3rd term just to piss you off!

If anyone wants to blame me.. don't.. blame squishy. His fucking constant abuse is going to make me vote a way I didn't want to!
You said the number is higher than 14 million for sure. So what's your estimated number? Why can't you answer a simple question?

Yes blame a guy on the internet for how you vote - you are wacked in the head dude. It couldn't be all the MAGA shit you've been saying for ages now that just about anyone here has called out one way or another.
 
Ok some details on what Musk claims are improvements in the Treasurary system.


The government payments will now have a “payment categorization code” for auditing purposes, he wrote in a post on X, the social media site he owns.
Musk also said payments must provide a rationale in a comment field, adding they are “not yet applying ANY judgment to this rationale” but that all payments must have one. Musk added that the do-not-pay list of people or companies that shouldn’t receive government money should be updated “at least weekly, if not daily.”


“The above super obvious and necessary changes are being implemented by existing, long-time career government employees, not anyone from @DOGE,” Musk wrote. “It is ridiculous that these changes didn’t exist already!”

I'm going to bet this information is already captured on some level, just not in the final payments system.
 
Ok some details on what Musk claims are improvements in the Treasurary system.




I'm going to bet this information is already captured on some level, just not in the final payments system.
Seems like kind of dumb upgrades, since the Treasury wasn't ultimately responsible for payment tracking/purposes - that has always fallen on the agency doing the paying. That's why the auditors and whatnot work within the individual agencies...

It really screams like something akin to "I'm a tech bro and I don't know how this works, so no one must know how this works."
 
It really screams like something akin to "I'm a tech bro and I don't know how this works, so no one must know how this works."

Yes and tracks with how they think they have actually invented doing crimes as some sort of mind-blowing hack to getting what you want that was never conceived of before.
 
Seems like kind of dumb upgrades, since the Treasury wasn't ultimately responsible for payment tracking/purposes - that has always fallen on the agency doing the paying. That's why the auditors and whatnot work within the individual agencies...

It really screams like something akin to "I'm a tech bro and I don't know how this works, so no one must know how this works."
By placing all auditing and approval authority under one system, it's easier to control (which of course is the point).
 
Ok some details on what Musk claims are improvements in the Treasurary system.




I'm going to bet this information is already captured on some level, just not in the final payments system.
Of course it is, it's all part of the appropriations and approval of funds, process. He's just trying to make people believe that the treasury just pays out money willy nilly, in an attempt to get people to trust everything less. Here's the thing, it's impossible for Musk or anyone to go into all these agencies in three weeks, and have a clue about what's what.. Hell a simple audit of a corporation takes months.. yet Musk has all the answers for all these agencies he's taking over and trying shut down, including the Natiional Treasurery in three weeks? Bullshit.
 
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By placing all auditing and approval authority under one system, it's easier to control (which of course is the point).
Even big corporations don't keep it all under one roof at the main headquarters. At the very least, it's broken up by reagional offices or divisions, and in a lot of cases, it's the done at the location where they are given a budget and X amount of money to opperate. Now, these locations may send in records each week/month, and the regional office or division may audit them AFTER the money has already been paid. If there are discrempencies, then they do an investigation to find/ look for answers, and hold people accountable. Having it all under one roof, for something as large as the US goverment, will be severely inefficient, require more man power, and be more costly. You think the goverment is slow now, wait till something like this is fully implimented, and payments get delayed for months, or denied because some jackoff thinks it's un-needed because he has no knowledge of it's use or importance in the field it is being asked for. There's a reason agencies are allucated funds and they have to develope a budget for those funds. Wait till they start delaying tax refunds, or refuse to pay them at all.
 
Even big corporations don't keep it all under one roof at the main headquarters. At the very least, it's broken up by reagional offices or divisions, and in a lot of cases, it's the done at the location where they are given a budget and X amount of money to opperate. Now, these locations may send in records each week/month, and the regional office or division may audit them AFTER the money has already been paid. If there are discrempencies, then they do an investigation to find/ look for answers, and hold people accountable. Having it all under one roof, for something as large as the US goverment, will be severely inefficient, require more man power, and be more costly. You think the goverment is slow now, wait till something like this is fully implimented, and payments get delayed for months, or denied because some jackoff thinks it's un-needed because he has no knowledge of it's use or importance in the field it is being asked for. There's a reason agencies are allucated funds and they have to develope a budget for those funds. Wait till they start delaying tax refunds, or refuse to pay them at all.
Yup, but they have an obligation to operate effectively as an auditing system. This new system is under no such obligation, it only needs to be able to cut off or provide funding based on what a dictatorial government says. Only need a few trusted people in a centralized location to do that.
 
Of course it is, it's all part of the appropriations and approval of funds, process. He's just trying to make people believe that the treasury just pays out money willy nilly, in an attempt to get people to trust everything less. Here's the thing, it's impossible for Musk or anyone to go into all these agencies in three weeks, and have a clue about what's what.. Hell a simple audit of a corporation takes months.. yet Musk has all the answers for all these agencies he's taking over and trying shut down, including the Natiional Treasurery in three weeks? Bullshit.

Especially true since the ones doing it all are incel bro-grammers.
 
Especially true since the ones doing it all are incel bro-grammers.

Whats wrong with celibacy and being a brother who can write a program?

I think that is better than people who have sex willy nilly leaving abandoned children behind and dont know how to code.
 
Felix is in an incel?

Not shocked

The root cause of societies problems is overpopulation, therefore celibacy should be promoted and celebrated. It is easy to fuck anything that moves and abandon babies in your wake. It is hard to have the discipline and morals to be faithful your entire life to one person, no matter how out of shape both of you get. Not that I am fit or anything, but still.

As far as coding, I can program in Basic.
 
It is something that I can still be impressed by how delusional Venezuelans for Trump were/are. Including the people who should absolutely know better. They are in total disbelief that Trump sold them out for oil from Maduo, I mean as far as he's concerned its a win-win.

“The Venezuelan community gave President Trump their support,” said John De La Vega, a Venezuelan American immigration lawyer and Army veteran. “This is completely different of what I thought it was going to be.”


Andrea Gabriela Rangel Walther, 29, is among those who thought Trump would shield Venezuelans from deportation. She said the overwhelming majority of her friends and family supported Trump — including her father, who is now at risk of being removed from the country. His TPS expires in April.
She knew Trump had vowed to deport immigrants who committed crimes and singled out members of Venezuela’s feared Tren de Aragua gang as initial targets. That was something she agreed with and welcomed. But she didn’t expect Trump to conflate criminals with Venezuelans like her parents and younger brother.
“He’s been to Doral. He’s been to Miami,” she said between bites of an empanada at a small Venezuelan restaurant. “He knows all Venezuelans aren’t Tren de Aragua.”

Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.

“My husband told my father: ‘Tu querías votar por Trump y mira ahora él te está botando,’” she said. You wanted to vote for Trump and now he’s kicking you out.

Her father was blindsided by Trump’s decision to eliminate TPS for Venezuelans, but Rangel Walther said he still supports the president.
“He says that Trump is doing right by his country, that we did invade his country, and he’s defending it,” she said.


Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.
 
This is a good way to get one's self couped by the army. Trump is going to turn Elon loose on the military where he thinks there is hundreds of billions of fraud that he can just stop.

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There are billions squandered in defense spending. Even if we could completely justify every cent of the current $814 billion one year budget, I think it is still too much.

China has the world's largest military force, almost double ours, and yet only spends 1/4th what we do:


Why do we spend quadruple for 1/2 the force? I suspect we are paying far too much and adding the difference to our growing debt pile.
 
The root cause of societies problems is overpopulation, therefore celibacy should be promoted and celebrated. It is easy to fuck anything that moves and abandon babies in your wake. It is hard to have the discipline and morals to be faithful your entire life to one person, no matter how out of shape both of you get. Not that I am fit or anything, but still.

As far as coding, I can program in Basic.
Given that your entire thesis is wrong - "root cause of societies problems is overpopulation" - I think we ignore the rest of your ideas.
 
There are billions squandered in defense spending. Even if we could completely justify every cent of the current $814 billion one year budget, I think it is still too much.

China has the world's largest military force, almost double ours, and yet only spends 1/4th what we do:


Why do we spend quadruple for 1/2 the force? I suspect we are paying far too much and adding the difference to our growing debt pile.

Not saying there isn't waste in defense, there is. But the difference in $$$ between our spending and that of the Chinese can be placed in several different buckets. First, we train WAY more than any other military in the world. Second, we maintain our equipment better than anyone else. Third, we're doing more R&D than anyone else. All those things are ridiculously expensive.
 
The initial numbers on the Trumpcoin scam are in — according to NYT, 31 early “investors”, many of them in China, made big profits. Over 800,000 moron Trump supporters who bought in later have lost money. 😂
 
Given that your entire thesis is wrong - "root cause of societies problems is overpopulation" - I think we ignore the rest of your ideas.

I think he's not far from the truth actually.

Overpopulation and inequality would be right on the money.

A lesser population might actually be more well off.. and I'm referring to European countries where the living standards are far better than our American ones.. especially healthcare which I truly care about.

Vs say a large population where the resources are spread way too thin.. like ours or worse off like China, India, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Pakistan etc where you're in danger of not even having enough vaccines for polio even though the demand is there.
 
Not saying there isn't waste in defense, there is. But the difference in $$$ between our spending and that of the Chinese can be placed in several different buckets. First, we train WAY more than any other military in the world. Second, we maintain our equipment better than anyone else. Third, we're doing more R&D than anyone else. All those things are ridiculously expensive.

A lot of military spending is also a sop to red state economies who could end up bigly hurt.
 
I think he's not far from the truth actually.

Overpopulation and inequality would be right on the money.

A lesser population might actually be more well off.. and I'm referring to European countries where the living standards are far better than our American ones.. especially healthcare which I truly care about.

Vs say a large population where the resources are spread way too thin.. like ours or worse off like China, India, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Pakistan etc where you're in danger of not even having enough vaccines for polio even though the demand is there.
No. He's very far from the truth. We are not overpopulated. There is a housing crisis in many areas where people want to live, but that is not driven by overpopulation.

As for European countries, the living standards are different - in some ways better, and probably in some ways worse (especially with what Americans are used to). People don't live in larger apartments and homes in much of Europe, taxes are much higher, and household incomes are substantially lower.
 
A lot of military spending is also a sop to red state economies who could end up bigly hurt.
And power projection around the world, to you know, maintain our support around the world and protect our economic interests...

There is certainly some spending that might be wasteful, but some of that has been mandated by the people (ie, Congress) - looking at you A-10... But that's not going to be nearly as much savings as these clowns think.
 
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