Once again this election will prove racism is a white Republican problem. 2008, 2012 and now 2020

[ch33zw1z]

As have you lol

I doubt an objective reviewer of the posts would agree. You're all over the map, expectedly, with your support / defense of your position, including a couple red herrings.

 

[blackangst1]

I doubt an objective reviewer of the posts would agree. You're all over the map, expectedly, with your support / defense of your position, including a couple red herrings.

What's all over the place? I support full background checks on FFD sales but not on private. I've never veered from that.

 

[ch33zw1z]

What's all over the place? I support full background checks on FFD sales but not on private. I've never veered from that.

Objective reviewers of posts around these statements will probably disagree.

In Post #136 You challenged background checks altogether.

Are background checks in the 2A?

In this case, you pivoted to be a textual supporter of the 2A, instead of an interpretative supporter. It's classic red herring.

Next,
In Post #155 You claimed that HR 8 would prevent 0 criminals from criminals from getting a gun, which you haven't explained how, and you used some "easy buy a gun off the street in any city" scenario to try and support that. Again, HR 8 isn't for unlicensed gun sales, so using that as a defense for your objection to HR 8 is *drum roll* another red herring meant to distract from the intent.

I'd that were a requirement for private sales, the onus would be on the seller to submit the background check to a FFD. If he doesn't, he would be a criminal. Do you know how easy it is to buy a gun off the street in any city?

Oh hi I'd like to buy your gun.
Sure. Let's fill out this paperwork
Uh..... No thanks.

Walks away thinking damn. I'll never get a gun.

1 to 10 how likely would this happen?

Lol

In this case, you also either misunderstood or intentionally misrepresented the HR 8 text and said it's the seller's obligation to run a background check. That's not true, it's the sellers responsibility to have a licensed gun dealer run the back ground check to complete the sale.

Anyways the follow up to that was another flail

In post #165, you stated Most states require a private sale background check anyways.

Most states already require this for FFA sales.

I replied:

And? Most isn't all. And if most states ready do, then what's the problem?

Besides, your argument was that it's an undue burden and won't change anything. Are those states that do encouraging this undue burden also? Guess so.

You replied:

Thirteen states require background checks even for private sale. IMHO it's a burden on legit gun owners.

Me:

That's not most, not even close.

Oh wait, another red herring:

We aren't required to validate license and insurance for a private car sale, and cars are deadlier than guns.

Me:

Look at this red herring over here.

You:

Makes my point though

No, it doesnt at all. It's meant to distract. Guns are not cars, period.

We're just going to have to disagree on our perceived effectiveness of HR8. Neither one is going to change the mind of the other.

Apparently all of that was about background checks, that you claim to support.

As I said, an objective reviewer of the last couple pages of this thread will likely disagree with you.

 

[soulcougher73]

What's all over the place? I support full background checks on FFD sales but not on private. I've never veered from that.

Lao you think a private responsible gun owner should be able to sell to a criminal?

 

[HomerJS]

Right on queue. Although he is black is is Trump's hired house boy. The token Trump uses to disparage other black people. I see him often.

Fox guest calls Kamala Harris ‘Hillary in blackface’ in shocking exchange

Offensive moment left panel momentarily confused

www.independent.co.uk

 

[HomerJS]

While not necessarily racist definitely misogynistic

https://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-bans-harlan-hill-185429041.html

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Personally I dont think the birtherism thing is about race so much as it is about not liking her political views. Have you found ANY elected Republicans quoted as saying she cant serve because she's black?

But then, when youre a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

this guy said it

Trump Questions California-Born Kamala Harris’ Eligibility To Be Vice President

Legal scholars have pushed back hard on the argument that Harris is ineligible under the 14th Amendment, calling it ‘baseless’ and ‘truly silly.’

www.forbes.com

 

[cytg111]

Right on queue. Although he is black is is Trump's hired house boy. The token Trump uses to disparage other black people. I see him often.

Fox guest calls Kamala Harris ‘Hillary in blackface’ in shocking exchange

Offensive moment left panel momentarily confused

www.independent.co.uk

If you need to use the N word, pay a black man to say it.

 

[cytg111]

Personally I dont think the birtherism thing is about race so much as it is about not liking her political views. Have you found ANY elected Republicans quoted as saying she cant serve because she's black?

But then, when youre a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

I think you are right? He just riles up all of racist America to ram his "politics" through with.
You are talking bullet wound to the head crazy talk.

 

[HomerJS]

Personally I dont think the birtherism thing is about race so much as it is about not liking her political views. Have you found ANY elected Republicans quoted as saying she cant serve because she's black?

But then, when youre a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

There are many who think she shouldn't serve because she is black. Just so happens the law allows her to run.

We do have the top Republican leader say a federal judge was unfit to serve because he is Mexican so we have examples. Some things are nails.

 

[HomerJS]

If you need to use the N word, pay a black man to say it.

In this case it would be appropriate. Just like I couldn't properly tell the story of why Muhammed Ali refused to be drafted when he said "No Vietcong ever called me n-----"

 

[blackangst1]

this guy said it

Trump Questions California-Born Kamala Harris’ Eligibility To Be Vice President

Legal scholars have pushed back hard on the argument that Harris is ineligible under the 14th Amendment, calling it ‘baseless’ and ‘truly silly.’

www.forbes.com

This silly conspiracy theory has nothing to do with skin color. Try again.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This silly conspiracy theory has nothing to do with skin color. Try again.

So per the President she *may* not be eligible because of the birth place of her Parents, not her.
Come on man i know you are smarter than this.

 

[blackangst1]

So per the President she *may* not be eligible because of the birth place of her Parents, not her.
Come on man i know you are smarter than this.

What does nationality have to do with skin color?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What does nationality have to do with skin color?

Come on man I know you are smarter than this

 

[blackangst1]

Come on man I know you are smarter than this

Why cant you answer the question? Do you agree is a dark skinned person and a white blonde person (skin color) are both born in the USA (nationality) they are both Americans?

 

[kage69]

Come on man I know you are smarter than this

Do you?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Come on man I know you are smarter than this

https://imgur.com/a/Z7a1cWY

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Why cant you answer the question? Do you agree is a dark skinned person and a white blonde person (skin color) are both born in the USA (nationality) they are both Americans?

I do and appearently the President is not sure.
Stop being a moron.

And where the fuck did you ask me this question?

 

[blackangst1]

I do and appearently the President is not sure.
Stop being a moron.

And where the fuck did you ask me this question?

Post 190 moron.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Post 190 moron.

Yeah that’s real clear.

I’ll ask you is the President a moron for questioning Kamala’s Eligibility?

See it is a direct question can be answered with a yes or no

Yours is an open ended question which doesn’t demand an answer because it is a statement.

 

[blackangst1]

Yeah that’s real clear.

I’ll ask you is the President a moron for questioning Kamala’s Eligibility?

See it is a direct question can be answered with a yes or no

Yours is an open ended question which doesn’t demand an answer because it is a statement.

Not just yes, but hell yes.

 

[ondma]

This silly conspiracy theory has nothing to do with skin color. Try again.

Really? I suppose it is just a coincidence that the only two candidates who have been attacked by the birthers are both, you know.....black.

 

[blackangst1]

Really? I suppose it is just a coincidence that the only two candidates who have been attacked by the birthers are both, you know.....black.

IMHO, yes, and irrelevant. I never thought the same stupid conspiracy theory against Obama was racist either. The very little Ive read about Kamala's theory I havent heard anything about she cant serve because she's black. Its always been because her parents were aliens.

According to the dictionary, the definition of racism is the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another. I dont hear that coming from the wackos claiming she cant serve. Dont get me wrong, Im sure theres a few dozen who DO think that, but everything Ive read has to do with her birth.

I think we throw racism around al but too much in the last 10 years and have diluted the true terrible meaning.

edit: oh and she's not black. She's Indian. (see what I did there?)

 

[ondma]

IMHO, yes, and irrelevant. I never thought the same stupid conspiracy theory against Obama was racist either. The very little Ive read about Kamala's theory I havent heard anything about she cant serve because she's black. Its always been because her parents were aliens.

According to the dictionary, the definition of racism is the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another. I dont hear that coming from the wackos claiming she cant serve. Dont get me wrong, Im sure theres a few dozen who DO think that, but everything Ive read has to do with her birth.

I think we throw racism around al but too much in the last 10 years and have diluted the true terrible meaning.

edit: oh and she's not black. She's Indian. (see what I did there?)

She is of mixed race actually. Still waiting for the "white" candidate who has been attacked by the birthers.