Once again this election will prove racism is a white Republican problem. 2008, 2012 and now 2020

[blackangst1]

But do you disagree with Vic? Is it mere coincidence ?

Given past Republicans support of blacks in high places, yes.

Condoleezza Rice
Colin Powell
Clarence Thomas

to name a few.

 

[ch33zw1z]

As a Christian, I dont think I have the right to force my beliefs on anyone, and I never have. If it comes up and my opinion is asked, Ill give it. But the Constitution gives me the right to practice as I wish, but not to force it on others.

And,. since we've only been talking the 2A here, youve decided its my single issue? LOL Its one of several. But for federal elections, except for House or Senate positions, gun rights havent altered my opinion of who I vote for. Never for POTUS, despite what righties say about D's (They want to take our guns!!!1111). No. They dont.

Oh and because I dont support background checks on private sales somehow I dont support ANY gun control?

Plenty of christians do tho, and that's a problem. I wasn't saying you specifically.

So far the only two issues you brought up were 2A and transgenders, which you claimed to not want to discuss. So have at it, you very into the 2A, but what issues do you actually vote for then.

Background checks are very reasonable. What gun control would you like to see you D reps go for, cuz R's won't be doing it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Given past Republicans support of blacks in high places, yes.

Condoleezza Rice
Colin Powell
Clarence Thomas

to name a few.

So voting for a person with life history of racism and pandering to white nationalists is what then? It was pretty obvious when Obama was elected that the right got on the racist crazy train.

As we've already pointed out, the here and now matter.

 

[blackangst1]

Plenty of christians do tho, and that's a problem. I wasn't saying you specifically.

So far the only two issues you brought up were 2A and transgenders, which you claimed to not want to discuss. So have at it, you very into the 2A, but what issues do you actually vote for then.

Background checks are very reasonable. What gun control would you like to see you D reps go for, cuz R's won't be doing it.

WRT transgenders, the fact I think they deserve the same anti-discrimination protection as a white, straight, American blue eyed girl enough?

And Ive said repeatedly. I support background checks and mental background checks except for private party sales.

 

[blackangst1]

So voting for a person with life history of racism and pandering to white nationalists is what then? It was pretty obvious when Obama was elected that the right got on the racist crazy train.

As we've already pointed out, the here and now matter.

Oh they sure did! And you will not find any posts of mine that suggest I was on that crazy train. The whole birther thing was bullshit, as it is with Harris.

 

[Aikouka]

We have a federal answer. Its called the 2nd Amendment.

Given that we're still debating the intent of the Second Amendment well over 200 years after it was written suggests that we may need a clearer message on the Federal level.

 

[blackangst1]

Given that we're still debating the intent of the Second Amendment well over 200 years after it was written suggests that we may need a clearer message on the Federal level.

Well, thats a good point.

 

[ch33zw1z]

WRT transgenders, the fact I think they deserve the same anti-discrimination protection as a white, straight, American blue eyed girl enough?

Dunno, do you think it's enough?

And Ive said repeatedly. I support background checks and mental background checks except for private party sales.

Ok, so then the HR 8 bill is just building on background checks, so what's the problem.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Given that we're still debating the intent of the Second Amendment well over 200 years after it was written suggests that we may need a clearer message on the Federal level.

There's not much to debate, as the 2A is pretty clear in it's intent. People's feels when it comes to firearms get in the way tho, and you get a bunch of nutters runnin' around with a bunch of much more efficient killing machines, with anti-anybodyelse mentality.

 

[blackangst1]

Dunno, do you think it's enough?



Ok, so then the HR 8 bill is just building on background checks, so what's the problem.

Yes to the first. And I've commented on my feelings regarding private sales.

 

[blackangst1]

There's not much to debate, as the 2A is pretty clear in it's intent. People's feels when it comes to firearms get in the way tho, and you get a bunch of nutters runnin' around with a bunch of much more efficient killing machines, with anti-anybodyelse mentality.

Are background checks in the 2A?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Are background checks in the 2A?

Do you want to take it word for word? no problem. What we'll regulated militia do gun owners belong to?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yes to the first.

Wonder if this is a voting issue for you.

And I've commented on my feelings regarding private sales.

Yea, you said that building on something you support isnt ok.

 

[blackangst1]

Do you want to take it word for word? no problem. What we'll regulated militia do gun owners belong to?

Well that's a rabbit hole.

This is a great explanation of the 2A

Second Amendment

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[blackangst1]

Wonder if this is a voting issue for you.



Yea, you said that building on something you support isnt ok.

Yes the people's equality is a voting issue for me

As to the second comment... Slippery slope applies.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Well that's a rabbit hole.

This is a great explanation of the 2A

Second Amendment

www.law.cornell.edu

It's a rabbit hole because people love their guns and will bounce between being strict verbage believers to interpretive believers whenever it fits their needs. In this case you bounced back to the verbage of the text so I did. If you want to offer that gun owners enroll in a state militia that performs many of the functions that the federal government is doing to put us back to a well regulated militia, I'm down for that

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yes the people's equality is a voting issue for me

As to the second comment... Slippery slope applies.

Slippery slope applies how?

People's equality is definitely a voting issue fore, it's.just one more thing Im not voting an R for. The current R party does care about equality

 

[blackangst1]

It's a rabbit hole because people love their guns and will bounce between being strict verbage believers to interpretive believers whenever it fits their needs. In this case you bounced back to the verbage of the text so I did. If you want to offer that gun owners enroll in a state militia that performs many of the functions that the federal government is doing to put us back to a well regulated militia, I'm down for that

My stance on the 2A and gun ownership hasn't changed. Is interesting you haven't asked the one key question that would make you rage on me. Maybe you'll figure it out.

 

[blackangst1]

Slippery slope applies how?

People's equality is definitely a voting issue fore, it's.just one more thing Im not voting an R for. The current R party does care about equality

That's not true at all.

 

[ch33zw1z]

My stance on the 2A and gun ownership hasn't changed. Is interesting you haven't asked the one key question that would make you rage on me. Maybe you'll figure it out.

Not interested in trolling, you don't offer much information tho. Most of your replies are just simple statements. On one hand, you agree with background checks, but then you don't, with little explanation as to why. Then,.even tho, you professed to support background checks, pivot to ask if background checks are in the 2A text. Your stance,.fwiw,.is whatever you want it to be at that moment.

 

[ch33zw1z]

That's not true at all.

Lol, sure

 

[ch33zw1z]

Oh they sure did! And you will not find any posts of mine that suggest I was on that crazy train. The whole birther thing was bullshit, as it is with Harris.

Are you now saying birtherism is based on racism? Because your first post in this thread said this

Personally I dont think the birtherism thing is about race so much as it is about not liking her political views. Have you found ANY elected Republicans quoted as saying she cant serve because she's black?

But then, when youre a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

 

[JEDIYoda]

The current R party does care about equality

So very TRUE!!!!

 

[blackangst1]

Not interested in trolling, you don't offer much information tho. Most of your replies are just simple statements. On one hand, you agree with background checks, but then you don't, with little explanation as to why. Then,.even tho, you professed to support background checks, pivot to ask if background checks are in the 2A text. Your stance,.fwiw,.is whatever you want it to be at that moment.

Is not complicated. Having background checks for new gun purchases protects the fed firearm dealer. However, adding a check for private sales will prevent zero criminals from getting a gun. It simply places undue burden on responsible gun owners, which I'm against.

 

[blackangst1]

Are you now saying birtherism is based on racism? Because your first post in this thread said this

No not at all. The crazy right isn't representative of the R party in general, just like the far left isn't representative of the D party.