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Oklahoma Supreme Court orders Ten Commandments removed from Capitol

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You can't have it both ways.

You can't say that a religous statue is wrong due to seperation of church and state, and then turn around and say Gay Marriage is right.

-John
 
Zorkorist said:
You can't have it both ways.

You can't say that a religous statue is wrong due to seperation of church and state, and then turn around and say Gay Marriage is right.

-John
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You can't say that apples are red, and then turn around and say that oranges are orange.
 
Zorkorist said:
You can't have it both ways.

You can't say that a religous statue is wrong due to seperation of church and state, and then turn around and say Gay Marriage is right.

-John
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Well, you can if you don't believe that religion is solely the domain of the church, hence the reason you have to submit paperwork with the government to enjoy any of the legal protections and privileges marriage offers. But I could see how that would be confusing to a moron.
 
The Religion of Government.

Yes, I got that. Easy to get that, today.

So don't call it Marriage, and cart that fucking statue off.

-John
 
Government is a new Religion.

Just as bad as the old Religions.

You may think that this Religion is better than others, but you will surely find that it is not.

-John
 
Zorkorist said:
You can't have it both ways.

You can't say that a religous statue is wrong due to seperation of church and state, and then turn around and say Gay Marriage is [a] right.

-John
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Learn the meaning of the word "can." Learn to spell. Learn the rules of capitalization. Learn the use of articles to avoid ambiguity.

By the way, the proper statement is that marriage is a right for all persons, heterosexuals and gays alike. And that statement is totally consistent with stating that statues promoting religion have no business being displayed on government property. You seem to be (again) making the erroneous assumption that marriage is solely a religious institution.
 
Zorkorist said:
The Religion of Government.

Yes, I got that. Easy to get that, today.

So don't call it Marriage, and cart that fucking statue off.

-John
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A rapidly increasing percentage of the population is calling same-sex marriage "marriage." Within a couple of years it will be virtually everyone. And we'll refer to the partners in such unions as "husband and husband" or "husband and wife" or "wife and wife" - whatever the couple wants.
 
shira said:
A rapidly increasing percentage of the population is calling same-sex marriage "marriage." Within a couple of years it will be virtually everyone. And we'll refer to the partners in such unions as "husband and husband" or "husband and wife" or "wife and wife" - whatever the couple wants.
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Comrades?

-John
 
Zorkorist said:
Can we not call Marriage, two individuals that want benefits from living and being associated together?

Would three, individuals that want to live together and benefit off each other be okay?

-John
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yes, even a group would be ok

what's wrong with people entering into a contract, after all that is what a marriage is, a legally binding contract, if everyone involved agrees to it?


a wedding in a church (or a masque, synagogue or temple) is nothing more than a ceremony and really doesn't matter to the state if you have one or not.
 
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Just read this thread. I'm impressed that Oklahoma has church/state separation language in its Constitution that is clearer, and probably stronger, then the Establishment Clause in the U.S. Constitution. For one thing, I can't see any sort of school voucher system ever being constitutional there, unless it excluded giving voucher money to religious schools. It's odd that a state as religious as Oklahoma has such a strong church/state separation clause.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Just read this thread. I'm impressed that Oklahoma has church/state separation language in its Constitution that is clearer, and probably stronger, then the Establishment Clause in the U.S. Constitution. For one thing, I can't see any sort of school voucher system ever being constitutional there, unless it excluded giving voucher money to religious schools. It's odd that a state as religious as Oklahoma has such a strong church/state separation clause.
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Indeed. It's so fucking clear that there is absolutely no excuse that this situation had to be brought to the Courts in the first place. Seems to me that someone should be impeached it's so clear.
 
Because now you have devolved into the state, and pre graduates, that will say, "what if four people and a dog got married."

It's stupid, illogical, etc.

Government has nothing to do with Marriage.

-John
 
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