Oklahoma Supreme Court orders Ten Commandments removed from Capitol

[K1052]

but seriously dont fuck your neighbors wife. That one is pretty good.

:sneaky:

 

[xBiffx]

Beyond the not stealing and not killing lets hear some more examples to support you claim.

Google is your friend. I'm not the first to make this claim. But you knew that already.

 

[xBiffx]

:sneaky:

I would agree with that statement.

 

[K1052]

Google is your friend. I'm not the first to make this claim. But you knew that already.

Well 1-4 certainly don't apply, 5 is not legally required buy any state as far as I know, 7 while technically illegal in less than half the states is effectively not enforced, 9 could be construed as committing perjury I guess in it's most extreme form…though would include simple talking shit which isn't illegal, and 10 I'm pretty sure you're ok to covet the shit out of anything any everything in western tradition.

Prohibitions against stealing and killing are kind of universal across cultures so I'm not finding anything too unique.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Many laws have their roots in those Commandments or at least the principles around them. I'm fairly certain this is why they were even placed there to begin with. Not to promote some religion over the other. But hey, the ACLU got work to do. Who am I to get in the way of progress.

You mean work like this?

"The ACLU vigorously defends the rights of all Americans to practice their religion. But because the ACLU is often better known for its work preventing the government from promoting and funding selected religious activities, it is sometimes wrongly assumed that the ACLU does not zealously defend the rights of all religious believers to practice their faith. The actions described below – over half of which were brought on behalf of self-identified Christians, with the remaining cases defending the rights of a wide range of minority faiths – reveal just how mistaken such assumptions are. (The list below includes only recent examples.)"

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https://www.aclu.org/aclu-defense-religious-practice-and-expression

 

[xBiffx]

You mean work like this?

"The ACLU vigorously defends the rights of all Americans to practice their religion. But because the ACLU is often better known for its work preventing the government from promoting and funding selected religious activities, it is sometimes wrongly assumed that the ACLU does not zealously defend the rights of all religious believers to practice their faith. The actions described below – over half of which were brought on behalf of self-identified Christians, with the remaining cases defending the rights of a wide range of minority faiths – reveal just how mistaken such assumptions are. (The list below includes only recent examples.)"

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https://www.aclu.org/aclu-defense-religious-practice-and-expression

Still looking to be offended. What a miserable way to live a life...

 

[JD50]

Let me know when the sign in question says Catholic, Jewish, or any other religion that this sign supposedly endorses.

Again, I guess the no smoking sign can be seen as an endorsement for Philip Morris now.

You're back to this again huh? I guess it'd be ok to have a statue of Muhammad as long as there isn't a sign that says "Muslim" above it. A statue of Jesus on the cross is fine as long as it doesn't say "Christian" above it. Amazing logic you have there.

Of course, you're completely ignoring the religious nature of many of the 10 commandments that several people already pointed out to you.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Let me know when the sign in question says Catholic, Jewish, or any other religion that this sign supposedly endorses.

Again, I guess the no smoking sign can be seen as an endorsement for Philip Morris now.

This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Still looking to be offended. What a miserable way to live a life...

Apparently you don't understand the meaning of that word:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=offended&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=m4-UVYnPNIOoogSCw5SYBw

 

[xBiffx]

Apparently you don't understand the meaning of that word:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=offended&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=m4-UVYnPNIOoogSCw5SYBw

Sorry, no one is being harmed by that statue. Only people having an issue are those who want to make it an issue.

 

[master_shake_]

oh america...

remove everything from everything to satisfy everyone and you are left with what?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Sorry, no one is being harmed by that statue. Only people having an issue are those who want to make it an issue.

In fact, everyone's rights are violated by that statue. We all have a fundamental right to a government that is free from religious influence according to the first amendment, and that statue is a violation of that right.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Sorry, no one is being harmed by that statue. Only people having an issue are those who want to make it an issue.

You seem to be forgetting about that whole, 'against the state constitution' thing.

 

[brycejones]

You seem to be forgetting about that whole, 'against the state constitution' thing.

Shut up you godless commie!

 

[Victorian Gray]

Shut up you godless commie!

 

[Orignal Earl]

They could leave 6 to 10, they are considered secular, rework the top ones into a likeness of Moses
The Supreme Court Building has Moses with them, and Muhammad

 

[Newell Steamer]

Ten-ghazi?

Commandment Panels?

 

[Zorkorist]

Marriage is a religous institution.

-John

 

[Brainonska511]

Marriage is a religous institution.

-John

Marriage? I think you want to try clicking on one of the many other threads. This thread is about Oklahoma and the creeping Christian law that is threatening to take over the state and turn it into the next Christian Afghanistan. If we don't watch it, Oklahoma's playgrounds will become training camps for the next Lord's Resistance Army.

 

[Zorkorist]

This thread is about the seperation of Church and State.

It's funny that the Church is decried in one instance of a statue heralding the ten commandments. But in other news, Marriage (a Religous icon) between gays is heralded as a great advancement of the State.

-John

 

[shira]

So again, how does this benefit a religion. More broadly, how does this benefit only religion? Even more broadly, what is this benefit and why is it not allowed?

For one thing, it's the government promoting a belief system of a single God versus multiple gods or no God.

The government is barred from having an official position with respect to religion.

 

[Zorkorist]

I assume you are happy with them ruling on gay marriage?

-John

 

[Brainonska511]

This thread is about the seperation of Church and State.

It's funny that the Church is decried in one instance of a statue heralding the ten commandments. But in other news, Marriage (a Religous icon) between gays is heralded as a great advancement of the State.

-John

More like a great advancement for individual freedom and limiting the state's power to say who you can and can't marry. I thought you'd be all for that.

And marriage isn't wholly in the domain of religion. If you haven't noticed, there are many secular benefits and issues with marriage, from property rights, taxes, hospital visitation rights, medical proxy if your spouse is unconscious, child custody issues in the event of divorce, etc... And for the longest time, you could go to your local clerk's office and file your marriage with the government to take advantage of those benefits. No religious figure required.

 

[shira]

Marriage is a religous institution.

-John

Really? I was married by a justice of the peace, and there was no mention of God or religion. The ceremony consisted solely of - in essence - the official asking each of us if we vowed to take care of each other.

 

[Zorkorist]

Not at all the same, right?

Fuck Religion, let's call gays married.

Never mind one of the great tenants of Religion, is that you shall not fuck another man.

-John