ok WTF is so good about fight club???

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: VictorLazlo

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You all missed the key to understanding the original poster's intent.

maybe its because I am not american I dont get really affected by the message of the movie..

This guy just wants us all to know how enlightened he is. Hey, good for you buddy.

You want to be affected by a message, listen to one of Martin Luther King Jr's speeches. If a movie ever gives you a "message" consider it the sprinkles on top of the icing of the cake since you, I hope, aren't going to movies to learn in the first place.

As for me, I look at the style and dialogue and sets and acting and the action and the cinematography...all of which were outstanding in Fight Club.

WTF are u smoking? what puzzled me is why lots of people think its the best movie ever...

I agree that the movie is very vell made, but IMO its not close to being the best movie ever..

What puzzles me is why you are still trying so hard to put it down. There have been plenty of good posts in here citing many reasons why we think this is a good movie.
You shouldn't still be puzzled.

I am not trying to put it down..
I just want to know if there is something that I am missing..

or maybe I am really stupid and cant comprehend the movie...

 

[JoeKing]

I'm reading one of the best, and really good movie. No ones called it the best movie ever.

 

[Thraxen]

Loved it... one of my personal favorites. 28 here. But I'm a fan of what most people consider odd movies.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: Sid59

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: Atlantean

Originally posted by: z0mb13
so far my theory is holding up!

Whats your theory that young males like it? I have plenty of friends that dislike it...

my theory is that younger people are more rebellious, anti establishment, full of values that they want to impose to others, etc... These messages are very strong in fight club, hence why I think younger people will like it more..

of course your theory is gonna work here. mainly young people who love violence in movies on the forums. better go out and test your theory more.

if you really think that younger people are more rebellious and anti establishment .. go look at what people are wearing and buying.

Exactly. Does anyone else find it ironic that that this movie, with all of it's anti everything messages is a multi million dollar blockbuster? That it stars Brad Pitt and Edward Norton? That you can buy the dvd on Amazon for $16.99, the soundtrack, and hell maybe even a poster or two? Don't give me any of this rebellion bullsh!t. People just want mindless action movies, and hell it's just icing on the cake when it comes across as being "deep" and having "messages".

edit: and I'm 19

 

[FuZoR]

i watched it when i was 17? 18? and loved it!
20 now and i have it on DVD.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Another thing I find to be somewhat ignorant is the arguement that a movie is nothing but entertainment. And I quote:

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You want to be affected by a message, listen to one of Martin Luther King Jr's speeches. If a movie ever gives you a "message" consider it the sprinkles on top of the icing of the cake since you, I hope, aren't going to movies to learn in the first place.

As for me, I look at the style and dialogue and sets and acting and the action and the cinematography...all of which were outstanding in Fight Club.

Is this what's wrong with society in general today? That so long as it has good action and dialogue, it's a good movie? Do we as a society simply leave out the most important part (be it a movie, music, paintings, anything) which is actual substance? I don't know about you, but when I put in a CD I don't think to myself "Damn, this CD really has a nice production value." If all we want is entertainment and effects, why bother with a plot. Why not have 1:30 min music videos with characters that say sh!t with alot of style and great cinematography?

 

[VictorLazlo]

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Another thing I find to be somewhat ignorant is the arguement that a movie is nothing but entertainment. And I quote:

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You want to be affected by a message, listen to one of Martin Luther King Jr's speeches. If a movie ever gives you a "message" consider it the sprinkles on top of the icing of the cake since you, I hope, aren't going to movies to learn in the first place.

As for me, I look at the style and dialogue and sets and acting and the action and the cinematography...all of which were outstanding in Fight Club.

Is this what's wrong with society in general today? That so long as it has good action and dialogue, it's a good movie? Do we as a society simply leave out the most important part (be it a movie, music, paintings, anything) which is actual substance? I don't know about you, but when I put in a CD I don't think to myself "Damn, this CD really has a nice production value." If all we want is entertainment and effects, why bother with a plot. Why not have 1:30 min music videos with characters that say sh!t with alot of style and great cinematography?

Maybe he's in the "biz".

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Another thing I find to be somewhat ignorant is the arguement that a movie is nothing but entertainment. And I quote:

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You want to be affected by a message, listen to one of Martin Luther King Jr's speeches. If a movie ever gives you a "message" consider it the sprinkles on top of the icing of the cake since you, I hope, aren't going to movies to learn in the first place.

As for me, I look at the style and dialogue and sets and acting and the action and the cinematography...all of which were outstanding in Fight Club.

Is this what's wrong with society in general today? That so long as it has good action and dialogue, it's a good movie? Do we as a society simply leave out the most important part (be it a movie, music, paintings, anything) which is actual substance? I don't know about you, but when I put in a CD I don't think to myself "Damn, this CD really has a nice production value." If all we want is entertainment and effects, why bother with a plot. Why not have 1:30 min music videos with characters that say sh!t with alot of style and great cinematography?

I think what's wrong with America is people like you mistaking a theatre for a classroom. Did you like The Empire Strikes Back? What was the message there? Deep wasn't it?

I said messages were the sprikles on top of the icing...you said it was the icing...so you basically plagorized me then attacked me for saying what you plagorized.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova

Originally posted by: Sid59

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: Atlantean

Originally posted by: z0mb13
so far my theory is holding up!

Whats your theory that young males like it? I have plenty of friends that dislike it...

my theory is that younger people are more rebellious, anti establishment, full of values that they want to impose to others, etc... These messages are very strong in fight club, hence why I think younger people will like it more..

of course your theory is gonna work here. mainly young people who love violence in movies on the forums. better go out and test your theory more.

if you really think that younger people are more rebellious and anti establishment .. go look at what people are wearing and buying.

Exactly. Does anyone else find it ironic that that this movie, with all of it's anti everything messages is a multi million dollar blockbuster? That it stars Brad Pitt and Edward Norton? That you can buy the dvd on Amazon for $16.99, the soundtrack, and hell maybe even a poster or two? Don't give me any of this rebellion bullsh!t. People just want mindless action movies, and hell it's just icing on the cake when it comes across as being "deep" and having "messages".

edit: and I'm 19

The movie as a whole NEVER makes a statement that society should be anti this and anti that, but a character in the movie does. I think you guys are reading too much into this.

 

[skace]

19 when I saw it and it is one of my favorite movies. Now, I cannot pinpoint exactly why I like it so much.

I remember certain scenes that stuck out at that time so much to me. Like when he beats up the pretty boy, just because he wanted to destroy something beautiful. Or like how he competes with the chick to go to support groups, just because he is able to sleep at night if he cries about someone elses problems. Or that feeling after fighting, where everything just dulls out, he can't hear his boss screaming and doesn't care that he looks like crap.

When I read this thread, I see 4-5 people trashing a movie simply because they didn't get it or are angry that others like it. Like it makes them feel better if others hate it too.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
It is amazing how many people think this dumbass movie is good.

sadly, you are the dumbass yourself. next please.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: DOSfan

Originally posted by: Elitebull
I wouldn't really compare it to Pulp Fiction or Jackie Brown; Fight Club has different type of disjointed storyline than Tarantino's work, which divides the entire story into several segments and then shuffles those around. But I agree 100% with your other points. The whole "fight club" aspect- the brutal violence, etc... is what appeals to group #2 and is what z0mb is attacking here.

But it's not about creating your own army. It's about taking control of the world (in a metaphorical sense), rather than being a mindless drone who has stuff force-fed to you.

I wasn't actively trying to compare it to Tarantino's work.... Just taking a st... um, guess at what the focus of z0mb13's disgust was.

But z0mb13 liked Pulp Fiction, and didn't like Fight Club....

Makes it hard to fathom. They both were message movies. They both had extreme levels of violence.

Is it because z0mb13 feels Pulp Fiction was "fictional," and Fight Club was, somehow, "non-fiction?"

It is not about the movie being fictional or not, it is about a HUGE gaping hole in the plot. It is not a small little detail that you can overlook. The writer looks like he was trying to add a Sixth Sense type twist at the end, but unlike the Sixth Sense, it made NO sense whatsoever. And watching it a second time only reveals how sloppy the plot was thrown together. VERY weak movie.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: JackBurton
It is amazing how many people think this dumbass movie is good.

sadly, you are the dumbass yourself. next please.

Riiiight. I guess you'd join a "Fight Club" seeing someone beating themselves up in the street. Yep, you sound like a dumbass that would do something like that, so I guess I understand now why you liked it so much.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

21, Edward Norton is a good actor, but yeah, I don't see what's great about it.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: JackBurton
It is amazing how many people think this dumbass movie is good.

sadly, you are the dumbass yourself. next please.

Riiiight. I guess you'd join a "Fight Club" seeing someone beating themselves up in the street. Yep, you sound like a dumbass that would do something like that, so I guess I understand now why you liked it so much.

Riiiight. I am sure people began to take out their hidden swords after watching LOTR, began taking notes & photos to remember things after watching Memento, began to make offers people can't refuse after watching the Godfather. Yep you sound like the dumbass whose life is influenced by movies. Sorry but I don't watch movies to redirect my life after watching them, I simply watch them for entertainment.

Now I understand why you don't like Fight Club, it's too hard for you to handle

 

[DukeFan21]

Originally posted by: v3rrv3
Oh and for reference I liked it but the book was better. I'm 17, and i'm not rebelious, anti establishment, or full of values I want to impose on people

Same here...Fight Club is probably one of my top 5 favorite movies.

 

[thirtythree]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: DOSfan

Originally posted by: Elitebull
I wouldn't really compare it to Pulp Fiction or Jackie Brown; Fight Club has different type of disjointed storyline than Tarantino's work, which divides the entire story into several segments and then shuffles those around. But I agree 100% with your other points. The whole "fight club" aspect- the brutal violence, etc... is what appeals to group #2 and is what z0mb is attacking here.

But it's not about creating your own army. It's about taking control of the world (in a metaphorical sense), rather than being a mindless drone who has stuff force-fed to you.

I wasn't actively trying to compare it to Tarantino's work.... Just taking a st... um, guess at what the focus of z0mb13's disgust was.

But z0mb13 liked Pulp Fiction, and didn't like Fight Club....

Makes it hard to fathom. They both were message movies. They both had extreme levels of violence.

Is it because z0mb13 feels Pulp Fiction was "fictional," and Fight Club was, somehow, "non-fiction?"

It is not about the movie being fictional or not, it is about a HUGE gaping hole in the plot. It is not a small little detail that you can overlook. The writer looks like he was trying to add a Sixth Sense type twist at the end, but unlike the Sixth Sense, it made NO sense whatsoever. And watching it a second time only reveals how sloppy the plot was thrown together. VERY weak movie.

the sixth sense didn't make sense. there's no way he wouldn't notice if no one at all communicated with him. we see very few scenes from his day which happen to work out, but his whole life couldn't be like that.

 

[Ime]

30.

I fell asleep during the flick.

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova

Originally posted by: Sid59

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: Atlantean

Originally posted by: z0mb13
so far my theory is holding up!

Whats your theory that young males like it? I have plenty of friends that dislike it...

my theory is that younger people are more rebellious, anti establishment, full of values that they want to impose to others, etc... These messages are very strong in fight club, hence why I think younger people will like it more..

of course your theory is gonna work here. mainly young people who love violence in movies on the forums. better go out and test your theory more.

if you really think that younger people are more rebellious and anti establishment .. go look at what people are wearing and buying.

Exactly. Does anyone else find it ironic that that this movie, with all of it's anti everything messages is a multi million dollar blockbuster? That it stars Brad Pitt and Edward Norton? That you can buy the dvd on Amazon for $16.99, the soundtrack, and hell maybe even a poster or two? Don't give me any of this rebellion bullsh!t. People just want mindless action movies, and hell it's just icing on the cake when it comes across as being "deep" and having "messages".

edit: and I'm 19

Hooker with a penis...

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Another thing I find to be somewhat ignorant is the arguement that a movie is nothing but entertainment. And I quote:

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You want to be affected by a message, listen to one of Martin Luther King Jr's speeches. If a movie ever gives you a "message" consider it the sprinkles on top of the icing of the cake since you, I hope, aren't going to movies to learn in the first place.

As for me, I look at the style and dialogue and sets and acting and the action and the cinematography...all of which were outstanding in Fight Club.

Is this what's wrong with society in general today? That so long as it has good action and dialogue, it's a good movie? Do we as a society simply leave out the most important part (be it a movie, music, paintings, anything) which is actual substance? I don't know about you, but when I put in a CD I don't think to myself "Damn, this CD really has a nice production value." If all we want is entertainment and effects, why bother with a plot. Why not have 1:30 min music videos with characters that say sh!t with alot of style and great cinematography?

I think what's wrong with America is people like you mistaking a theatre for a classroom. Did you like The Empire Strikes Back? What was the message there? Deep wasn't it?

I said messages were the sprikles on top of the icing...you said it was the icing...so you basically plagorized me then attacked me for saying what you plagorized.

I noticed that too. I didn't finish reading the thread when I had posted my first message, just coincidence.

Back to the point. I enjoy movies for the entertainment as well, but a nice plot also helps imo. Do you not ask for a decent story while reading a book? Is that not the point? What is the difference between a book and a movie, both are just different mediums used to deliver some sort of story or message. If someone would rather read Hugo than some trashy romance novel are they mistaking literature for a classroom? I think we are setting our standards a wee bit low.

And no, I don't care for any of the Star Wars movies.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Another thing I find to be somewhat ignorant is the arguement that a movie is nothing but entertainment. And I quote:

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You want to be affected by a message, listen to one of Martin Luther King Jr's speeches. If a movie ever gives you a "message" consider it the sprinkles on top of the icing of the cake since you, I hope, aren't going to movies to learn in the first place.

As for me, I look at the style and dialogue and sets and acting and the action and the cinematography...all of which were outstanding in Fight Club.

Is this what's wrong with society in general today? That so long as it has good action and dialogue, it's a good movie? Do we as a society simply leave out the most important part (be it a movie, music, paintings, anything) which is actual substance? I don't know about you, but when I put in a CD I don't think to myself "Damn, this CD really has a nice production value." If all we want is entertainment and effects, why bother with a plot. Why not have 1:30 min music videos with characters that say sh!t with alot of style and great cinematography?

I think what's wrong with America is people like you mistaking a theatre for a classroom. Did you like The Empire Strikes Back? What was the message there? Deep wasn't it?

I said messages were the sprikles on top of the icing...you said it was the icing...so you basically plagorized me then attacked me for saying what you plagorized.

I noticed that too. I didn't finish reading the thread when I had posted my first message, just coincidence.

Did you finish reading the post of mine which you quoted?

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Another thing I find to be somewhat ignorant is the arguement that a movie is nothing but entertainment. And I quote:

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You want to be affected by a message, listen to one of Martin Luther King Jr's speeches. If a movie ever gives you a "message" consider it the sprinkles on top of the icing of the cake since you, I hope, aren't going to movies to learn in the first place.

As for me, I look at the style and dialogue and sets and acting and the action and the cinematography...all of which were outstanding in Fight Club.

Is this what's wrong with society in general today? That so long as it has good action and dialogue, it's a good movie? Do we as a society simply leave out the most important part (be it a movie, music, paintings, anything) which is actual substance? I don't know about you, but when I put in a CD I don't think to myself "Damn, this CD really has a nice production value." If all we want is entertainment and effects, why bother with a plot. Why not have 1:30 min music videos with characters that say sh!t with alot of style and great cinematography?

I think what's wrong with America is people like you mistaking a theatre for a classroom. Did you like The Empire Strikes Back? What was the message there? Deep wasn't it?

I said messages were the sprikles on top of the icing...you said it was the icing...so you basically plagorized me then attacked me for saying what you plagorized.

I noticed that too. I didn't finish reading the thread when I had posted my first message, just coincidence.

Did you finish reading the post of mine which you quoted?

Yes, and it was the second post that I made.

 

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
FightClub is the stupidest fvcking movie. Let me get this straight, you believe that a person standing out in the street, beating himself up, would inspire people to create a "Fight Club?" Give me a fvcking break. That movie was garbage, and the "big twist" at the end made the movie worthless.

This reminds me of people raving over another crappy movie, Independence Day. Another sh!t movie that people loved.

my thoughts exactly.

 

[VictorLazlo]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: DOSfan

Originally posted by: Elitebull
I wouldn't really compare it to Pulp Fiction or Jackie Brown; Fight Club has different type of disjointed storyline than Tarantino's work, which divides the entire story into several segments and then shuffles those around. But I agree 100% with your other points. The whole "fight club" aspect- the brutal violence, etc... is what appeals to group #2 and is what z0mb is attacking here.

But it's not about creating your own army. It's about taking control of the world (in a metaphorical sense), rather than being a mindless drone who has stuff force-fed to you.

I wasn't actively trying to compare it to Tarantino's work.... Just taking a st... um, guess at what the focus of z0mb13's disgust was.

But z0mb13 liked Pulp Fiction, and didn't like Fight Club....

Makes it hard to fathom. They both were message movies. They both had extreme levels of violence.

Is it because z0mb13 feels Pulp Fiction was "fictional," and Fight Club was, somehow, "non-fiction?"

It is not about the movie being fictional or not, it is about a HUGE gaping hole in the plot. It is not a small little detail that you can overlook. The writer looks like he was trying to add a Sixth Sense type twist at the end, but unlike the Sixth Sense, it made NO sense whatsoever. And watching it a second time only reveals how sloppy the plot was thrown together. VERY weak movie.

What HUGE gaping plot hole is this?

 

[Redviffer]

Originally posted by: Elitebull

Originally posted by: EvilYoda
PM Elitebull and ask him what he thinks about the movie and why

20.

It's only the greatest movie ever. To me, it's not so much about anti-establishment as it is about personal enlightenment. Anyway, aside from the script (Chuck Palahniuk is my favorite author and Jim Uhls did an excellent job with the screenplay), the movie itself is one of - if not THE - most well-made film I have ever seen. Every scene is carefully crafted and each line of dialogue adds to the film as a whole. There are plenty of special effects eye candy too - the IKEA sequence is just damn cool. The acting was superb as well- Ed Norton is the perfect actor for the role of Jack, and of course, there's the mindfvck at the end.

Great plot.
Great producing/directing.
Great effects.
Great acting.
Great movie.

34 and I completely agree