you can't tell me that the idea of stealing human fat, making it into soap, and selling it in overpriced bars back to the very women who had it liposuctioned out isn't brilliant 
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: pulse8
It's not supposed to be taken literally.
Fincher had to portray multiple personalities without giving away that they are the same person. You have to suspend your disbelief of what you had watched previously and not delve too far into the way it was made in the movie but rather what it meant to the story.
Something like this is VERY hard to portray in a movie and I think Fincher did a brilliant job of doing it.
The multiple personality thing is just stupid IMO...
its like wathcin a movie about A for the first 3/4, then somehow u get force fed B in your face..
no sense whatsoever...
its not like the plot twist like the sixth sense, where at the end u think ohhhhhhhhhh yea it makes sense...
the plot twist of this movie is just stupid and doesnt make any sense...
You're not looking at the movie as a whole. You're taking individual things that didn't make sense to you and aren't even trying to apply them to the movie as a whole to understand it.
Just go watch your Van Damme movies.
yes I get the subtle hints like when that girl got pissed off when the guys said "what are u doing in my house??"
but in overall it just doesnt make sense...
azazyel
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Ouch...20's are not "older". There were some people in their 40's but few. Most of the scenes in the house were with the younger people. Also, they didn't take over the whole town. They probably had a few hundred members. Which isn't that hard to fathom. I mean if I went on a recruiting run I could probably come up with 10 or so.
example: the dildo dialogue, WTF is so special about it? its just a conversation about a bag for christ's sake...
That was just funny, nothing deep there.
That was just funny, nothing deep there.
I'm 25 and this is my all-time favorite movie.
I have many personal reasons for liking this movie. One non-personal reason is that the plot is bullet proof. You can watch it 20 times without finding a single plot hole.
When you watch Fight Club the first time, it rocks. You spend time thinking, "Man, Marla is a bitch."
Then when you watch it the second time, it is like a whole new movie! Once you know the ending, you sit there thinking "Man, this time Jack is the asshole."
This is what puts Fight Club above Seven, because once you know the ending of Seven, you can't really watch it again and have as much fun. Fight Club has an enduring quality that you can watch again and again, and pick up new things every time.
I have many personal reasons for liking this movie. One non-personal reason is that the plot is bullet proof. You can watch it 20 times without finding a single plot hole.
When you watch Fight Club the first time, it rocks. You spend time thinking, "Man, Marla is a bitch."
Then when you watch it the second time, it is like a whole new movie! Once you know the ending, you sit there thinking "Man, this time Jack is the asshole."
This is what puts Fight Club above Seven, because once you know the ending of Seven, you can't really watch it again and have as much fun. Fight Club has an enduring quality that you can watch again and again, and pick up new things every time.
eh righhhhttttt......
yesss its easy to manipulate and brainwash people..
if u went on a recruiting run u can come up with 10 or so people?? please...
and what kind of people would these be? hobos? even hobos cant that be easily influenced..
WE ARE IN AMERICA HERE... not like afganistan or whatever where the reason people join these groups is because thats the only viable option that they have!
My guess is that you did not like other movies that are "disjointed" as well.
Pulp Fiction
Snatch
Jacky Brown (I didn't like this one myself.
)etc.
I do not know about other countries, by the US is "movied out." We have seen almost everything, done almost every way.
The whole presentation was new. And invigorating.
Of course, you had to have a modicum of intelligence to pick up anything than the violence/anarchy plots. <-- This is not a shot against you.
So there were basically three types of people in the US.
1) Those who liked it for all it said, and how it said it.
2) Those who liked it for the violence and anarchy, mostly because they did not get the rest.
3) Those that did not like it.
The third group is definately in the minority.
I would guess that the second group is the majority.... But that is just my cynical side showing.
EDIT: Forgot to add I am 31 and loved the movie.
EDIT 2:
You never really have had any interaction with, or near gangs have you? Not the group of young punks that cause havok late at night in your neighborhood, but the "real" thing.
both are hilarious but you can't compare a comedy to a dark comedy. plus, a fraternity is somewhat different from an almost terroristic organization
-silver
Originally posted by: DOSfan
My guess is that you did not like other movies that are "disjointed" as well.
Pulp Fiction
Snatch
Jacky Brown (I didn't like this one myself.
etc.
I do not know about other countries, by the US is "movied out." We have seen almost everything, done almost every way.
The whole presentation was new. And invigorating.
Of course, you had to have a modicum of intelligence to pick up anything than the violence/anarchy plots. <-- This is not a shot against you.
So there were basically three types of people in the US.
1) Those who liked it for all it said, and how it said it.
2) Those who liked it for the violence and anarchy, mostly because they did not get the rest.
3) Those that did not like it.
The third group is definately in the minority.
I would guess that the second group is the majority.... But that is just my cynical side showing.
I actually like pulp fiction, the plots come together as a whole, and it is very well done..
never seen snatch
My memory of the exact details is a bit weak, but here goes:
In the book, he goes to blow up a museum (not credit card buildings) and he intends to blow himself up with it. In the end, the museum does not blow up, and he shoots himself.
The book was the one with the hollywood ending. It didn't make any sense and it sucked.
The end of the movie was perfection.
you just saw this movie?
i think trying to figure out why people say fight club is an awsome movie is the least of your troubles.
i think trying to figure out why people say fight club is an awsome movie is the least of your troubles.
Originally posted by: DOSfan
My guess is that you did not like other movies that are "disjointed" as well.
Pulp Fiction
Snatch
Jacky Brown (I didn't like this one myself.
etc.
I do not know about other countries, by the US is "movied out." We have seen almost everything, done almost every way.
The whole presentation was new. And invigorating.
Of course, you had to have a modicum of intelligence to pick up anything than the violence/anarchy plots. <-- This is not a shot against you.
So there were basically three types of people in the US.
1) Those who liked it for all it said, and how it said it.
2) Those who liked it for the violence and anarchy, mostly because they did not get the rest.
3) Those that did not like it.
The third group is definately in the minority.
I would guess that the second group is the majority.... But that is just my cynical side showing.
EDIT: Forgot to add I am 31 and loved the movie.
EDIT 2:
You never really have had any interaction with, or near gangs have you? Not the group of young punks that cause havok late at night in your neighborhood, but the "real" thing.
I wouldn't really compare it to Pulp Fiction or Jackie Brown; Fight Club has different type of disjointed storyline than Tarantino's work, which divides the entire story into several segments and then shuffles those around. But I agree 100% with your other points. The whole "fight club" aspect- the brutal violence, etc... is what appeals to group #2 and is what z0mb is attacking here.
But it's not about creating your own army. It's about taking control of the world (in a metaphorical sense), rather than being a mindless drone who has stuff force-fed to you.
there is a fine line between realistic movies and fiction/fantasy movies..
LOTR is cleary a fantasy movie, but FC is trying to show itself as a realistic movie...
Originally posted by: JackBurton
It is amazing how many people think this dumbass movie is good.
exactly my point...
HeroOfPellinor
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You all missed the key to understanding the original poster's intent.
This guy just wants us all to know how enlightened he is. Hey, good for you buddy.
You want to be affected by a message, listen to one of Martin Luther King Jr's speeches. If a movie ever gives you a "message" consider it the sprinkles on top of the icing of the cake since you, I hope, aren't going to movies to learn in the first place.
As for me, I look at the style and dialogue and sets and acting and the action and the cinematography...all of which were outstanding in Fight Club.
This guy just wants us all to know how enlightened he is. Hey, good for you buddy.
You want to be affected by a message, listen to one of Martin Luther King Jr's speeches. If a movie ever gives you a "message" consider it the sprinkles on top of the icing of the cake since you, I hope, aren't going to movies to learn in the first place.
As for me, I look at the style and dialogue and sets and acting and the action and the cinematography...all of which were outstanding in Fight Club.
WTF are u smoking? what puzzled me is why lots of people think its the best movie ever...
I agree that the movie is very vell made, but IMO its not close to being the best movie ever..
Originally posted by: z0mb13
WTF are u smoking? what puzzled me is why lots of people think its the best movie ever...
I agree that the movie is very vell made, but IMO its not close to being the best movie ever..
What puzzles me is why you are still trying so hard to put it down. There have been plenty of good posts in here citing many reasons why we think this is a good movie.
You shouldn't still be puzzled.
I wasn't actively trying to compare it to Tarantino's work.... Just taking a st... um, guess at what the focus of z0mb13's disgust was.
But z0mb13 liked Pulp Fiction, and didn't like Fight Club....
Makes it hard to fathom. They both were message movies. They both had extreme levels of violence.
Is it because z0mb13 feels Pulp Fiction was "fictional," and Fight Club was, somehow, "non-fiction?"
HeroOfPellinor
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Originally posted by: z0mb13
WTF are u smoking? what puzzled me is why lots of people think its the best movie ever...
I agree that the movie is very vell made, but IMO its not close to being the best movie ever..
You said it was not even okay...on the lower end of okay. Not only that, but you're actually suggesting that to think this movie was good or great, one would have to be an angst-ridden American teenager as I gather from your perpetual asking for people's ages and disclosure of your non-American and thus non-materialistic status.
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