Perhaps our forces are moving too quickly under the generals' questionable pretense of safety with "Iraqi troops surrendering"?
I'm not a tactician or anything but apparently former general Wesley Clark says the strategy that Franks is using, is making sure one of the armored units (7th cav) can get to Baghdad ASAP... I dont know whether they want to lay siege to the city asap or what. also the MEU is in "a hurry" to get to baghdad, even to the extent of skirting around Basra, etc. So for whatever reason, it looks like they aren't totally securing the towns along the way.
the draft is near? come on...it's just that our media reports EVERYTHING that happens to the U.S. soldiers, each injury or death at a time.
Well.
First that isnt the plan. At first it was "haul ass and bypass" but that was when the marines were still on the Kuwait boarder. They are trying to secure towns as the come to them, however urban conflict is a bitch so they arent totally secure. Like Basrah its under control, but its not secure. The people that came under ambush were ambushed by Iraqis wearing civilian clothing, and it was during battle over the same town but it was in the rear that they were attacked, again by Iraqis wearing civilian clothing.
Also the 7th Calvary is part of the 3rd infantry division, its the recon unit in it. The 3rd infantry divison is a HUGE divison, the goal is to get them to Baghdad as quickly as possible, but they ARE not purposely avoiding battles. Infact they have been fighting constantly since Saturday afternoon. The 3rd infantry divison isnt going to attack Baghdad on its own, its job is to get there are surround it while waiting for the British and Marines to catch up.
WTF are all you people saying its going to take to long or some crap about the draft.
Yes we have KIAs but out of a force of 300,000 30-40 is .01%. Yes we have more that are wounded. But we arent sustaining heavy casualities. Its about the same as Desert Storm except we are pushing much much farther into Baghdad.
First that isnt the plan. At first it was "haul ass and bypass" but that was when the marines were still on the Kuwait boarder. They are trying to secure towns as the come to them, however urban conflict is a bitch so they arent totally secure. Like Basrah its under control, but its not secure. The people that came under ambush were ambushed by Iraqis wearing civilian clothing, and it was during battle over the same town but it was in the rear that they were attacked, again by Iraqis wearing civilian clothing.
Also the 7th Calvary is part of the 3rd infantry division, its the recon unit in it. The 3rd infantry divison is a HUGE divison, the goal is to get them to Baghdad as quickly as possible, but they ARE not purposely avoiding battles. Infact they have been fighting constantly since Saturday afternoon. The 3rd infantry divison isnt going to attack Baghdad on its own, its job is to get there are surround it while waiting for the British and Marines to catch up.
WTF are all you people saying its going to take to long or some crap about the draft.
Yes we have KIAs but out of a force of 300,000 30-40 is .01%. Yes we have more that are wounded. But we arent sustaining heavy casualities. Its about the same as Desert Storm except we are pushing much much farther into Baghdad.
My cnn breaking news just sent me this.
>>>As many as 10 U.S. Marines killed in combat at Nasiriyah in what U.S. official calls "sharpest engagement of the war thus far."<<<<
Is this the town in which the hubhub is all about, that the picture of the 5 soldiers(one a lady) is refering to? I will get out my mapos now and try and make some sense of this.
I am still questioning the wisdom of moving so fast to Bagdad without securing the flank. Some argument may be offered like this "to get under the range of scuds", but somehow that is not making me feel better about this.
>>>As many as 10 U.S. Marines killed in combat at Nasiriyah in what U.S. official calls "sharpest engagement of the war thus far."<<<<
Is this the town in which the hubhub is all about, that the picture of the 5 soldiers(one a lady) is refering to? I will get out my mapos now and try and make some sense of this.
I am still questioning the wisdom of moving so fast to Bagdad without securing the flank. Some argument may be offered like this "to get under the range of scuds", but somehow that is not making me feel better about this.
I dont think so. Those 10 marines died in urban conflict trying to secure two IMPORTANT bridges in that town. They did but sustained casualities, those shot or killed were all take by helicopters back to a rear base for treatment. It was 6 dead 14 wounded but its now I believe 10 dead and 10 wounded.
The ambush killed 4 people, with 12 being taken, 7 of those 12 are dead, 5 are(were) living. It happened to the 507th maintence group somewhere around Najaf(sp?) I believe. They were attacked by Iraqis with civilain clothing, I believe they were on foot and trucks, no tanks or anything.
I hardly think the draft is near. I highly doubt they are even using 25% of the armed forces' capabilities, right now.
Edit: revised my layman's guess, changed 50% to 25%
Can some provide a link to a detailed map of IRAQ and Baghdad?
I found a few but I would like to see some of the small cities and such so I can follow along.
Thanks
I found a few but I would like to see some of the small cities and such so I can follow along.
Thanks
They overtake the iraqis very quickly, but the longer it takes the better that is for the republican guard. Don't forget that they are defending their own country and own ideals and that always gives you that extra bit of strength. The americans are far away from home and the longer it takes the more difficult it gets, I think. Still, this doesn't mean the iraqis can single handedly change the course of a tomahawk.
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Since the Iraqis are fighting in plain clothes, why don't the Marines just shoot anyone that they see? I guess if you have the media right alongside of you that is a totally different story. But if I was there and I suspected you of being a Republican Guard I would shoot you down no doubt to save my life.
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Hopefully this report is true as it will be the first HUGE I TOLD YOU SO to France, Germany, Russia and all the other dumb-ass countries and people that are against this war...
I am using a national geographic map I found a few moments ago. I am a subscriber.
Al Najaf is about 100 miles south of Bagdad, making that force the furthest and at point. That would make sense, since they are on point. That town is on the west bank of the Euphrates river. There is another column going up the east bank and they crossed at An Nisiriyah. I believe that crossing is defended and held by allied forces. Basra is getting mop up operations, and I assume is under control (within reason) of allied forces.
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