Ummm.. Check the source, it's hardly unbiased. I'll wait for the mainstream media to chime in.
Basically I look at it this way.
We are the good guys. We don't use underhanded tactics. We don't intentionally target civilians. We are trying to minimize colatoral damage on the Iraqi side. This means we are exposing our forces to MUCH greater risk than we could if we just leveled the country. Most people don't understand we could level every city and military unit in Iraq, but we don't because of the extreme level of colatoral damage it would cause. So instead we are exposing our boys and girls to much greater physical danger. It's the price we pay for following the rules, obeying the Geneva Convention, and being compassionate to our enemy.
The folks we are fighting are the bad guys, they don't follow the rules and never have. We wouldn't be fighting a war with Iraq right now if they had followed the rules.
Such is the way of the world. I actually expected much higher friendly casualties than we've seen.
Personally I think the rest of the world is stunned at our abilities right now.
We are the good guys. We don't use underhanded tactics. We don't intentionally target civilians. We are trying to minimize colatoral damage on the Iraqi side. This means we are exposing our forces to MUCH greater risk than we could if we just leveled the country. Most people don't understand we could level every city and military unit in Iraq, but we don't because of the extreme level of colatoral damage it would cause. So instead we are exposing our boys and girls to much greater physical danger. It's the price we pay for following the rules, obeying the Geneva Convention, and being compassionate to our enemy.
The folks we are fighting are the bad guys, they don't follow the rules and never have. We wouldn't be fighting a war with Iraq right now if they had followed the rules.
Such is the way of the world. I actually expected much higher friendly casualties than we've seen.
Personally I think the rest of the world is stunned at our abilities right now.
Great post! I totally agree. Just compare the news briefings of the central command with the Iraq's "Information Ministry".
It's WAR. what the iraqi's are doing ISN'T underhanded. sorry. that doesn't fly with me. the iraqi's as far as they know are defending their country agains an overwhelming force. what do you expect them to do? just surrender?? stand in front of the coalition forces and say, shoot me??
they are doing what is necessary. it's war.
datalink7
Lifer
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So I guess we might as well just nuke them because "it's war", right?
There are certain things you just don't effing do. These don't just include indicriminate nukeing... but also herding women to miltary targets to be "shields", and wearing civilian clothing if you are in the military.
Unfortunately, I am sure the British felt the same way against the underhanded militias from colonial times. Those barbarians didn't line up in an honorable fashion and hid amongst the civilians.
The rest of the world views the US/Alliance troops as invaders and will portray them as such. Don't expect flattering coverage from the nonalliance outlets.
The rest of the world views the US/Alliance troops as invaders and will portray them as such. Don't expect flattering coverage from the nonalliance outlets.
I was typing up a long-winded response to LeeTJ when I read this, and it is much more to the point than mine. So I'm gonna back Datalink7 on this one. He's right.
I don't understand what you guys want the Iraqis to do. We invade their country with a force they cannot defeat, and then expect them to play by the rules? To simply yell at their prisoners a bit before sending them to bed without dinner?
Agreed. However, when lies are being shown as truths by "nonallience outlets", it is responsible and incumbant on us to expose it as such and clarify history.
Wolfe Blitzer is showing the public video footage of mock POW training. Poor people. Those in training live. Those in reality today got a bullet between the eyes.
Actually the Revolutionary War was a civil war. A civil war by definition includes lots of civilians. It was British fighting British. Only after the war was over and the colonies found themselves independant did America we know today really start to take shape.
The War in Iraq is not a civil war, it is a war of liberation. That the bad guys are hiding behind civilians and using them as shields proves they are the bad guys.
It means alot of friendly casaulties, but that is what happens when you are following the rules.
As for your last statement, I'm assuming you watched every single news outlet in the world in the past 24 hours and came to that conclusion. So I'm going to take your word for it.
We can, we have the ability. Why don't we?? we don't because we are still concerned about world opinion.
once again, just what did you expect them to do?? does anyone in the world, ATOT included think that in a "Stand Up" war that the Iraqi's have ANY CHANCE WHATSOEVER?? did you honestly think that they would stand their in ranks and let us mow them down??
you sound like the brits during the american revolution. the brits kept complaining that the americans were fighting "unfair".
it's WAR. rules don't really apply.
The honorable thing for the Iraqis to do is to realize that Saddam's regime is not worth giving up their lives for and to surrender peacefully. For people in power within the regime, it is true that it is a desparate time for them. They have everything to lose, so they will resort to desparate measures.
If the government of Iraq (Saddam Hussien) had followed the rules, his country would not have been invaded by an army looking to liberate his country and give them a stable democracy.
Actually I don't expect the Iraqi army to follow the rules, we wouldn't be in a war with them if they had.
that is a cultural bias. perhaps for them and with their religion they find it acceptable to do so. you can't apply your rules to them.
they are defending their homeland and as far as they are concerned everyone is expendable.
I don't agree with it, but i understand it.
Untrue. In war, rules do apply. Countries must abide by the Geneva Convention agreements. If not, then the people responsible can be tried as war criminals.
Agreed, but you forgot to add their inhumane treatment of POW's. Iraqi POW's are treated in line with the Geneva Convention, which is alot better than what the Coalition POW's are getting.
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Wow... who is biased here? I know Arabs, and they DON'T agree with using these types of tactics. I am part of an Arab forum which, while against the American invasion, are deriding the current Iraqi tactics.
So before you come spewing you "cultural bias" speech, maybe you aught to know what you are talking about?
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