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hal2kilo

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DEI is neither good nor bad; i've seen it implemented wrong where people are hired regardless of qualifications and i've seen it implemented correctly where it opens up the selection process to qualify people who were no longer available.

However - Trump is always wrong - stupid asshole.
I worked at a company that probably because they were a government contractor practiced so called DEI hiring. Some of those people were crap, and some of those people ended up in some of the highest position in the company with PHDs. The exact same as the white people who worked there.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I worked at a company that probably because they were a government contractor practiced so called DEI hiring. Some of those people were crap, and some of those people ended up in some of the highest position in the company with PHDs. The exact same as the white people who worked there.
Yup. None of the racist people examine how a useless white guy ended up in a position.
 

you2

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Well we got to give Trump a hand for he has managed to hire the worse of the worse; as only Trump could do...
 

hal2kilo

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Well we got to give Trump a hand for he has managed to hire the worse of the worse; as only Trump could do...
I really think it's part of his cruelty streak. He wants to punish the whole country because it gave him such a hard time the last time around. He's a very sick man.
 
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uallas5

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It's been over 2 weeks and I'm still waiting for the news reports of ICE raids in states like Iowa, Nebraska, Idaho, etc. It will be the easiest places to find people to deport, just head to every dairy farm and meat processing plant, like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm sure that will happen any day now.
 

hal2kilo

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It's been over 2 weeks and I'm still waiting for the news reports of ICE raids in states like Iowa, Nebraska, Idaho, etc. It will be the easiest places to find people to deport, just head to every dairy farm and meat processing plant, like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm sure that will happen any day now.
You don't know why. Think about that cow guy wanting to sue the media.
Remember Nunes, his family, they moved out there.
 
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NWRMidnight

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It's been over 2 weeks and I'm still waiting for the news reports of ICE raids in states like Iowa, Nebraska, Idaho, etc. It will be the easiest places to find people to deport, just head to every dairy farm and meat processing plant, like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm sure that will happen any day now.
I understand the point you are trying to make here, and I agree with that point, but please, look at a calendar before posting next time.. Trump has been President for 12 days. Not even two weeks.. starting out so blatently wrong deminishes the point you are trying to make.

With that said, we all knew he would focus on blue states and ignore red states. Hell, his goons are picking up immigrants in washington and detaining them in Idaho, indicating that red states are helping him attack blue states. This isn't just a war on immigrants, it's a war on blue states, as red states are being ignored. I am waiting to hear about Texas construction grinding to a stop because they took 60% of their construction work force.. but the war isn't happening in red states because they seem to be excempt, as your point suggests.
 

alien42

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DEI is neither good nor bad; i've seen it implemented wrong where people are hired regardless of qualifications and i've seen it implemented correctly where it opens up the selection process to qualify people who were no longer available.

However - Trump is always wrong - stupid asshole.
I completely disagree, there have been studies that show companies with more diverse workforces and boards are more successful and profitable. I'm on my phone and busy but I'll try to find sources for that later.
 
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you2

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I completely disagree, there have been studies that show companies with more diverse workforces and boards are more successful and profitable. I'm on my phone and busy but I'll try to find sources for that later.
But if you could only read ..... which it seems you can't.
 

uallas5

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I understand the point you are trying to make here, and I agree with that point, but please, look at a calendar before posting next time.. Trump has been President for 12 days. Not even two weeks.. starting out so blatently wrong deminishes the point you are trying to make.
Thanks for maths correction...it just seems SO much longer than it has been
 
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QueBert

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DEI is neither good nor bad; i've seen it implemented wrong where people are hired regardless of qualifications and i've seen it implemented correctly where it opens up the selection process to qualify people who were no longer available.

However - Trump is always wrong - stupid asshole.

We shouldn't need DEI in the 1st place, the same with Affirmative Action. But we live in a country where a lot of companies would hire a Donald Trump over a Barrack Obama simply because of color. To me it's wild there are bosses who could have both apply and still pick Trump over Obama just to not hire a black person.
 
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We shouldn't need DEI in the 1st place, the same with Affirmative Action. But we live in a country where a lot of companies would hire a Donald Trump over a Barrack Obama simply because of color. To me it's wild there are bosses who could have both apply and still pick Trump over Obama just to not hire a black person.
We also live in a country where a lot of people were born on 3rd base and think they hit a triple, and whole groups of people have been stuck in the dugout because of inequities forced upon them by history.

Recognizing, celebrating, and seeking diversity is a strength of this country and an attempt to right historical wrongs. I don't think that is a bad thing, despite what some aggrieved white people think.
 

eelw

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Recognizing, celebrating, and seeking diversity is a strength of this country and an attempt to right historical wrongs. I don't think that is a bad thing, despite what some aggrieved white people think.
Which it’s why it’s so sick this sudden anti DEI push. The left just wants equal opportunities. Not handouts to nepo babies
 

QueBert

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Which it’s why it’s so sick this sudden anti DEI push. The left just wants equal opportunities. Not handouts to nepo babies

And a lot of the right think similar to Trump's "illegals are coming here and taking black jobs" So in their mind there's no way a person of color could be qualified for anything beyond a shit job, so the only way they're getting them is because of things like DEI. The irony that MAGAs will instantly jump to the conclusion that black people are unqualified to do any important job. Yet they'll say Trump's the greatest president ever and believe it with all their heart.

America's true colors are really shining thru and this is only 2 weeks into his term. A MAGA was telling me our country needs more MTGs who tell it like it is. And that AOC isn't qualified to work at Starbucks. I'm supposed to believe MTG and Boebert are qualified and AOC's a DEI hire? LOL.
 

K1052

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Looks like the FBI has gone woke again. Or is hearing Trump wants to fire half of them. One or the other.

An agency that has probably felled two presidents in the last century should probably be treated with some respect but what do I know.


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fskimospy

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Looks like the FBI has gone woke again. Or is hearing Trump wants to fire half of them. One or the other.

An agency that has probably felled two presidents in the last century should probably be treated with some respect but what do I know.


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It tells you how utterly corrupt Trump is that Republicans are trying to claim the FBI is politically biased against them despite literally never having been run by a Democrat.
 

K1052

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It tells you how utterly corrupt Trump is that Republicans are trying to claim the FBI is politically biased against them despite literally never having been run by a Democrat.

Also from a practical standpoint you also need a certain level of state capacity if you want a police state…
 

DZero

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Made me thinking about this wild fear... what happens if in this period Trump and Putin sign an historical alliance against their "enemies", meaning China, India, Europe and most of the West?
Remember that US and Russia would have over 10K warheads together and over 3K deployed.
 

HomerJS

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Big difference between Equal and Equity.
You people don’t want people of color to have either.

All you anti DEI people like the rest of us are living through the hiring of unqualified white guys in top positions but somehow that is considered normal
 
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pcgeek11

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You people don’t want people of color to have either.

All you anti DEI people like the rest of us are living through the hiring of unqualified white guys in top positions but somehow that is considered normal

That is such a lie.
Equal rights for all I say.
Equity is just bullshit.
 

pmv

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I completely disagree, there have been studies that show companies with more diverse workforces and boards are more successful and profitable. I'm on my phone and busy but I'll try to find sources for that later.

I don't know about DEI specficially (as it's largely a US practice) but the biggest risk/problem I have noticed in attempts to overcome existing biases in recruitment and advancement, is that in trying to address one form of bias you can make another form worse.

Some examples come to mind:

When the Bolsheviks took over Russia they expelled lots of 'bourgeois' students from university to make room for more proletarians - and the side-effect was that they expelled almost all of the women, as all the women in a position to become university students were bourgeois and all the proletarian candidates to replace them were men.

And when a housing co-op I knew of decided they needed to have a better gender-balance and prioritised women applicants, they ended up entirely upper-middle-class, as all the women potential applicants were upper-class and all the more working-class applicants were male.
 

pcgeek11

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please do explain to us the difference between equality and equity in your own words. I'm curious.


Equality means everyone has a chance to reach for excellence. The level reached will be based on their skill and abilities. Some will make it and some will not.

Equity means everyone gets equal results regardless of their abilities or lack of abilities.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Recognizing, celebrating, and seeking diversity is a strength of this country and an attempt to right historical wrongs. I don't think that is a bad thing, despite what some aggrieved white people think.
There was a policy that ancient Rome had, they mandated integration between citizens. There was no 'China Town' (so to speak) because it wasn't permitted. It's one of the reasons that city became the center of a vast percentage of the old world for a millennia.

Diversity is life. Homogeny is death.