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gothuevos

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The US demands vast amounts of labor a these people are simply filling the supply side of that balance. People who are misinformed about this population are in for some interesting times if they actually all do go away.

He won't, though.

Everything is transactional with him. Of course his buddys' businesses won't get raided. Of course they'll get tariff exemptions.
 

K1052

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He won't, though.

Everything is transactional with him. Of course his buddys' businesses won't get raided. Of course they'll get tariff exemptions.

Its going to reach a point where people just bolt out of fear and there will be no stopping it then. Even if you bribed him and your workforce is supposedly protected. They have even stated that this is part of the actual plan.

I'm breaking out the popcorn for when half the construction workers in Texas simply disappear almost overnight.
 
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Its going to reach a point where people just bolt out of fear and there will be no stopping it then. Even if you bribed him and your workforce is supposedly protected. They have even stated that this is part of the actual plan.

I'm breaking out the popcorn for when half the construction workers in Texas simply disappear almost overnight.
Voters looked at the relative peace and prosperity of modern society (eg, material abundance magnitudes higher than prior generations), and said, "this is is the worst thing ever" because they rotted their brains on social media.
 
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K1052

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Voters looked at the relative peace and prosperity of modern society (eg, material abundance magnitudes higher than prior generations), and said, "this is is the worst thing ever" because they rotted their brains on social media.

They are entirely detached from the possibility that their choices matter and will have real tangible consequences for them personally. When that occurs they are going to be real pissed off and blame everybody but themselves.
 
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They are entirely detached from the possibility that their choices matter and will have real tangible consequences for them personally. When that occurs they are going to be real pissed off and blame everybody but themselves.
Because they're stupid: good things happen because of their own merit; bad things happen because someone else/the government did it to them. No connection whatsoever between who they pull the lever for and the bad things happening.
 
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gothuevos

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Its going to reach a point where people just bolt out of fear and there will be no stopping it then. Even if you bribed him and your workforce is supposedly protected. They have even stated that this is part of the actual plan.

I'm breaking out the popcorn for when half the construction workers in Texas simply disappear almost overnight.

Maybe a discussion for a different day, but it also says a lot about us that we have gotten so comfortable/reliant on what basically amounts to slave labor.

Nobody will like the higher prices but maybe it's time we rip that band-aid off.
 

K1052

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Maybe a discussion for a different day, but it also says a lot about us that we have gotten so comfortable/reliant on what basically amounts to slave labor.

Nobody will like the higher prices but maybe it's time we rip that band-aid off.

What if I told you that actually a lot of these businesses that employ them pay decently and treat them well because they know they can go elsewhere?
 

gothuevos

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What if I told you that actually a lot of these businesses that employ them pay decently and treat them well because they know they can go elsewhere?

Oh I'm sure many do. But a lot are exploited for low wages and zero benefits.
 

biostud

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Those deposits already exist in the US. We just don't mine them here.
Try looking at these statistics...

 

K1052

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Oh I'm sure many do. But a lot are exploited for low wages and zero benefits.

H2Bs are probably in a worse spot since they are employer locked. One of the interesting features of the current system.
 

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So who's going to perform at Trump's inauguration?

I'm envisaging a stirring rendition of "Tomorrow Belongs To Me".
 
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K1052

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As stated previously a big part of Trump's deportation plan is to terrorize the migrant population into simply leaving. That's why they aren't really talking about the cost/logistics of say 15M people leaving the country, they are not going to make it their problem. Enforcement will be arbitrary, capricious, cruel, and demeaning. Employment of violence seems likely.

https://bsky.app/profile/swin24.bsky.social/post/3lfkg6du23c2t

As a reminder the economic consequences of this actually happening is a 7 point loss of GDP. Almost double what we saw in the GFC. If you had an awesome time financially around 2008-2010 then you're gonna love this.
 

Jaskalas

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Voters looked at the relative peace and prosperity of modern society (eg, material abundance magnitudes higher than prior generations), and said, "this is is the worst thing ever" because they rotted their brains on social media.
Social media is the death of a modern society. It allows our more primitive voices to gain traction over hundreds of years of societal evolution. With all the noise drowning out who we once were, the savage ape returns in all of us. Tribal, dictatorial, fanatical. It won't be much longer now before we find out.
 

VRAMdemon

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Peter Thiel wrote an op-ed in the Financial Times that reads like the ravings of a coked-up eugenicist.


The apokálypsis is the most peaceful means of resolving the old guard’s war on the internet, a war the internet won. My friend and colleague Eric Weinstein calls the pre-internet custodians of secrets the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex (DISC) — the media organisations, bureaucracies, universities and government-funded NGOs that traditionally delimited public conversation. In hindsight, the internet had already begun our liberation from the DISC prison upon the prison death of financier and child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein in 2019. Almost half of Americans polled that year mistrusted the official story that he died by suicide, suggesting that DISC had lost total control of the narrative…

Our First Amendment frames the rules of engagement for domestic fights over free speech, but the global reach of the internet tempts its adversaries into a global war. Can we believe that a Brazilian judge banned X without American backing, in a tragicomic perversion of the Monroe Doctrine? Were we complicit in Australia’s recent legislation requiring age verification for social media users, the beginning of the end of internet anonymity? Did we muster up even two minutes’ criticism of the UK, which has arrested hundreds of people a year for online speech triggering, among other things, “annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety”? We may expect no better from Orwellian dictatorships in East Asia and Eurasia, but we must support a free internet in Oceania.

After reading that thing and my head hurts from the crazy. Amongst all the ranting is his idea that apartheid South Africa = Biden’s term in office. And that Trump, champion of truth and freedom, will reveal the Deep State and destroy it. 'Cuz that’s how Trump rolls.

Some rich people’s brains apparently curdle from all that money – money which can’t seem to buy them the simple things, such as having EVERYONE bow down as they pass and call them Your Grace. Money makes stupid people think they’re smart. Even worse, it makes stupid lucky people think they’re smart. And finally it also allows them to convince not so lucky stupid people that the lucky stupid people are smart.

 

VRAMdemon

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Trump - “Jeff Bezos came, Bill Gates came. Mark Zuckerberg came. Many of them came numerous times. The bankers have all come. Everybody is coming.”


Sounds like some weirdo perverse billionaire orgy. If Epstein wasn't dead and P-Diddy wasn’t locked up, you know he would’ve come.
 

ivwshane

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Social media is the death of a modern society. It allows our more primitive voices to gain traction over hundreds of years of societal evolution. With all the noise drowning out who we once were, the savage ape returns in all of us. Tribal, dictatorial, fanatical. It won't be much longer now before we find out.

You forgot tribalism.
 

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I saw an article that trump plans to bring grocery prices down by lowering energy prices through increased oil production and then the savings will trickle down, you can't make this stupid shit up. How many decades are we on now of republicans telling us trickle down is a thing? It's never worked but morons still think republicans are better economically.

Funny thing is I've seen this idea being tossed around by right wingers on the internet since trump was elected, so he obviously read the idea off of some social media platform. Hell, someone on here posted this same idea verbatim in one of the election threads, you see this all the time with right wingers where they found something they think sounds smart so they copy paste it everywhere, kinda like the whole, "We're a republic not a democracy" thing.

Never mind the fact that we're producing more oil than ever and there are tons of unused leases so oil companies are not going to drill more, and even if we did manage to bring energy prices down companies would just pocket the extra profit. Somehow though, people are stupid enough to believe this, even after 40 odd years of trickle down never working.
 

brycejones

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I saw an article that trump plans to bring grocery prices down by lowering energy prices through increased oil production and then the savings will trickle down, you can't make this stupid shit up. How many decades are we on now of republicans telling us trickle down is a thing? It's never worked but morons still think republicans are better economically.

Funny thing is I've seen this idea being tossed around by right wingers on the internet since trump was elected, so he obviously read the idea off of some social media platform. Hell, someone on here posted this same idea verbatim in one of the election threads, you see this all the time with right wingers where they found something they think sounds smart so they copy paste it everywhere, kinda like the whole, "We're a republic not a democracy" thing.

Never mind the fact that we're producing more oil than ever and there are tons of unused leases so oil companies are not going to drill more, and even if we did manage to bring energy prices down companies would just pocket the extra profit. Somehow though, people are stupid enough to believe this, even after 40 odd years of trickle down never working.

Yes because the oil companies want to hammer their profits…….
 

fskimospy

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This tells you how they intend to handle health insurance:

This is funny to me for two reasons:

1) Republicans went absolutely apeshit when Michelle Obama was like 'maybe people should eat healthier'.

2) This is such an incredibly stupid way to look at the world. People would be healthier and live longer if they led healthier lifestyles. We know they don't though, so the question is what we do about that. If the answer is that health insurance shouldn't cover preventable illness then ok - just be honest about that and see how it goes for you.
 

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This tells you how they intend to handle health insurance:


Same line you get from both Conservatives, and a lot of liberals, here. Always go straight for the victim-blaming. Carefully ignoring (a) the extent to which people don't have complete control over their 'lifestyles', they are determined by the circumstances they find themselves in, and (b) the vast number of illnesses and conditions that are not lifestyle-related (every one of the multiple health issues I have turns out to be 'of unknown cause').

They never blame 'excessive car dependence', though, because that would implicate themselves and their supporters, even though the over-use of the motor car is the cause of a large amount of health problems.
 

manly

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Trump - “Jeff Bezos came, Bill Gates came. Mark Zuckerberg came. Many of them came numerous times. The bankers have all come. Everybody is coming.”


Sounds like some weirdo perverse billionaire orgy. If Epstein wasn't dead and P-Diddy wasn’t locked up, you know he would’ve come.
That's one hell of a circle jerk he's describing.


I saw an article that trump plans to bring grocery prices down by lowering energy prices through increased oil production and then the savings will trickle down, you can't make this stupid shit up. How many decades are we on now of republicans telling us trickle down is a thing? It's never worked but morons still think republicans are better economically.
Transportation is obviously an important sector to the economy; but even if fuel products got much cheaper, it's still not bringing back 2019 prices. Trump has pretty much already admitted this, and has been signaling in recent weeks that many of his lofty campaign promises won't come to pass.

But based on his well-known racism, you should bet his administration will try very hard to enact his border policies. Stephen Miller is trying to find any disease available to invoke Title 42 and shut down the southern border again.
 
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K1052

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I saw an article that trump plans to bring grocery prices down by lowering energy prices through increased oil production and then the savings will trickle down, you can't make this stupid shit up. How many decades are we on now of republicans telling us trickle down is a thing? It's never worked but morons still think republicans are better economically

The shale drillers consolidated already or have been gobbled up by private equity/hedge funds. There is not going to be any unprofitable drilling and they could even sit on their hands raking in cash while his tariffs on imported crude sends the price in the US through the roof.
 

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