Official Trump second term prediction thread

[Jaskalas]

He's a good troll, I can give you that.

But he has zero chance on a national level.

Circa 2015, Trump had zero chance on a national level.
Populism fueled by propaganda changed the American landscape for Republicans.
We can use the same method to fight fire with fire.

There is no worse candidate than Trump. To presume any candidate is bad is to belie how he became President. Anyone can lie to the American people. All one needs is a charismatic liar like Trump.

 

[gothuevos]

Not really sure how much you should be talking about seeing the moment considering a few years back you thought Republicans were going to take a Senate seat in Hawaii. (they lost by 45 points, lol)

As I said in the past you have simply predicted the same thing every time, it is not special to be right once after being wrong over and over.

Not sure you should be talking, either.

 

[gothuevos]

Circa 2015, Trump had zero chance on a national level.
Populism fueled by propaganda changed the American landscape for Republicans.
We can use the same method to fight fire with fire.

There is no worse candidate than Trump. To presume any candidate is bad is to belie how he became President. Anyone can lie to the American people. All one needs is a charismatic liar like Trump.

You don't understand how unpopular Newsom is. He would instantly be painted as more radical than even Kamala Harris. Just stop.

Also the criteria you laid out for our political leaders is utterly depressing.

 

[nakedfrog]

You don't understand how unpopular Newsom is. He would instantly be painted as more radical than even Kamala Harris. Just stop.

It literally doesn't matter who the opposition is, they'll be depicted as a far-left Marxist socialist commie that eats babies.

 

[cytg111]

Information warfare dialed up, the zone is gonna get flooded now with Grok and FB shit

 

[biostud]

Information warfare dialed up, the zone is gonna get flooded now with Grok and FB shit

Well maybe it is time to leave FB...

 

[IronWing]

On a positive note: Le Pen is le dead, one less nazi in the world. Not worth its own thread.

 

[cytg111]

Of old age.. yea that's.. .something I guess.

 

[biostud]

From a Danish perspective

 

[cytg111]

From a Danish perspective

I like Anders a whole fucking lot BUT. He loses the plot early on in "unless USA envisions a future without aliance...." ... Yes holy f crap everyone should act as if NATO is dead.

We are not NOT allied with US no more

 

[Jaskalas]

Also the criteria you laid out for our political leaders is utterly depressing.

Half the American people have consistently done that for almost a decade now.
They endorsed impeachable offenses.
They endorsed overturning an election and overthrowing our government.

You should have had the past four years to absorb this. As of 2024 the American people continue to endorse impeachable offenses and overturning elections. Let alone the decorum of a tyrannical baby Hitler. Who continues to fit the role by suggesting we militarily attack Mexicans, Central Americans, Canadians, Europeans. Anyone we've been at relative peace with. While praising Russia and North Korea. Someone who "understands" Russia's need for waging Genocide across Europe.

Depressing was 2016.
This is unbridled rage.

 

[biostud]

I like Anders a whole fucking lot BUT. He loses the plot early on in "unless USA envisions a future without aliance...." ... Yes holy f crap everyone should act as if NATO is dead.

We are not NOT allied with US no more

I wonder if the US generals feel the same way...

 

[Muse]

Just curious..

Would anyone here follow an order to invade Greenland or Canada from the Orange Overlord?

Keep in mind that Greenland is a member of NATO. That means we'll be in the same position that Hitler was in. With the entire planet at war against us.

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IMO, the Greenland, Canada, Panama Canal acquisition thrust is nothing more than a diversionary tactic to get people's attention away from thwarting Trump's efforts to...

1) Get the ball rolling in snowballing the Trump financial empire during Term_2
Here's a current story at New York Times about the burgeoning corruption and looting being done and planned by the Trump family to be unleashed during Trump 2.0.

14 day access through paywall:

A Flurry of Announcements Signal That the Trump Family Will Keep Making Deals

Even before the start of the new administration, there has been repeated blurring of lines between the federal government efforts and Trump family businesses.

www.nytimes.com

2) Get as many of his crony picks into his cabinet as he can

 

[pmv]

Sure there's a spectrum, and Mark has done well to conceal it. I'm saying he's not as "innocent" as Bozos or Tim Apple donating to the inauguration slush fund because they're all just kissing the ring.

Zuck is somewhere in between Cook and Elon. You don't appoint Dana White to your BoD if you don't like DJT. I'm not saying I'm privy to Zuck's inner beliefs; I'm saying I'm convinced he likes Trump. And it's reflected in the people he's pulling into Meta.

None of this is particularly important, but I reckon one can make distinctions by comparing the backgrounds of the likes of Gates, Trump, Musk and Zuck (and Bezos). Economically and hence politically they are all much-of-a-muchness, but culturally their different social origins probably make a difference to how dislikeable they are as individuals. Which I don't suppose makes a lot of political difference, but affects how rapidly one turns the TV or radio off whenever they appear on it.

 

[biostud]

IMO, the Greenland, Canada, Panama Canal acquisition thrust is nothing more than a diversionary tactic to get people's attention away from thwarting Trump's efforts to...

1) Get the ball rolling in snowballing the Trump financial empire during Term_2
Here's a current story at New York Times about the burgeoning corruption and looting being done and planned by the Trump family to be unleashed during Trump 2.0.

14 day access through paywall:

A Flurry of Announcements Signal That the Trump Family Will Keep Making Deals

Even before the start of the new administration, there has been repeated blurring of lines between the federal government efforts and Trump family businesses.

www.nytimes.com

2) Get as many of his crony picks into his cabinet as he can

Yup. smokes and mirrors...

 

[Muse]

None of this is particularly important, but I reckon one can make distinctions by comparing the backgrounds of the likes of Gates, Trump, Musk and Zuck (and Bezos). Economically and hence politically they are all much-of-a-muchness, but culturally their different social origins probably make a difference to how dislikeable they are as individuals. Which I don't suppose makes a lot of political difference, but affects how rapidly one turns the TV or radio off whenever they appear on it.

Uh, not really 5 of a kind. Gates donated something like $50M to Kamala's campaign, IIRC, and don't know that he did anything similar for Trump's.

 

[K1052]

I feel like people are significantly underestimating the possibility of unilateral military action by the upcoming administration. We are almost certainly going to get a war with the cartels and violate Mexican sovereignty quite soon after he takes office. The odds that he uses military force to obtain the Panama Canal and Greenland are non-zero.

 

[ivwshane]

IMO, the Greenland, Canada, Panama Canal acquisition thrust is nothing more than a diversionary tactic to get people's attention away from thwarting Trump's efforts to...

1) Get the ball rolling in snowballing the Trump financial empire during Term_2
Here's a current story at New York Times about the burgeoning corruption and looting being done and planned by the Trump family to be unleashed during Trump 2.0.

14 day access through paywall:

A Flurry of Announcements Signal That the Trump Family Will Keep Making Deals

Even before the start of the new administration, there has been repeated blurring of lines between the federal government efforts and Trump family businesses.

www.nytimes.com

2) Get as many of his crony picks into his cabinet as he can

Close but what it actually does and always does is it makes people tune out because everything just becomes noise at that point. Once people stop paying attention you can do whatever the f you want and that’s where your points come in.

 

[Muse]

Close but what it actually does and always does is it makes people tune out because everything just becomes noise at that point. Once people stop paying attention you can do whatever the f you want and that’s where your points come in.

People will notice Eric and Jr. and DJ and Jerrod stuffing their sacks with taxpayer money.

They'll also be paying attention to who's gonna run the NIH, DOD, DOJ. Senators have to show backbone.

 

[Muse]

I feel like people are significantly underestimating the possibility of unilateral military action by the upcoming administration. We are almost certainly going to get a war with the cartels and violate Mexican sovereignty quite soon after he takes office. The odds that he uses military force to obtain the Panama Canal and Greenland are non-zero.

Greenland is in NATO. Invading it would trigger an international political crisis.

Is Greenland in the NATO?

The country's status was changed to an Overseas Country and Territory (OCT) associated with the EU, a dependent territory that has a special relationship with a member state of the EU. However, Greenland remains a full member of the Council of Europe and NATO.

IMO, Trump is responding to someone whispering in his ear and I figure that's Elon.

 

[K1052]

Greenland is in NATO. Invading it would trigger an international political crisis.

I would be hard pressed not to describe an unsanctioned war waged inside our largest trading partner without their approval as an "international political crisis".

 

[gothuevos]

It's all just a simulation anyway.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5076428-trump-obama-carter-funeral/

 

[pmv]

Uh, not really 5 of a kind. Gates donated something like $50M to Kamala's campaign, IIRC, and don't know that he did anything similar for Trump's.

Because Gates came from a particular background (more of a nobless oblige old money ethos). Kamala was hardly a 'leftist', incidentally, and Gates was a pretty ruthless capitalist in his day. Objectively he's still part of that class.

 

[manly]

People don't talk about it a lot, but Bill Gates palled around with Jeffrey Epstein. And you know the cliche about the "company that you keep."

Greenland is in NATO. Invading it would trigger an international political crisis.

Is Greenland in the NATO?

The country's status was changed to an Overseas Country and Territory (OCT) associated with the EU, a dependent territory that has a special relationship with a member state of the EU. However, Greenland remains a full member of the Council of Europe and NATO.

IMO, Trump is responding to someone whispering in his ear and I figure that's Elon.

Trump has had a woody for Greenland since his first term. The U.S. isn't going to attack a NATO ally unless the military chain-of-command resigns en masse. Trump thinks so highly of himself that he believes he can buy Greenland just like we bought Alaska from the Russian empire.

I'm not sure that I buy we're directly attacking the Mexican cartels soon after inauguration, but I do buy that an unhinged Trump is a dangerous mofo.

 

[brycejones]

The Greenland thing smacks as some kind of sad desperation to be able to attach his name to some kind of "accomplishment" to be remembered for. Trump would claim he made a bigger deal than Jefferson did for the Louisiana purchase.