***********Official South Carolina Democratic Primary Thread**************

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OrByte

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people are so sick and tired of the way the GOP has handled our country. It is great to see the large turnout in voters.

the US will get back on track...thanks to the american people.

 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: palehorse74
From cnn.com...
The Illinois senator earned more than twice the vote that rival Sen. Hillary Clinton did, 55 percent to 27 percent, unofficial returns showed.
:D:Q Ouch, that has to sting a bit for the Billary fanbois! :Q:D

It is surprising. Didn't the polls show him winning by ~8%?
It appears that polls are still useless when it comes to making predictions about any of the top contenders...

Looks like it. Obama was projected to win NH by 9-13 points and wound up losing. Here he was looking to win by about the same margins and opened up a 28 point can of whoop-ass. Hill probably knew she wasn't going to win SC (she left for Tenn before the polls closed and didn't give any speech) but I don't think she expected to get trounced like this.

I guess we'll see how much momentum Obama carries over into next Tuesday.

its not momentum. 4 out of 5 blacks voted for obama which makes up the vast majority of his lead. he failed to win over any white people who were over 29. in fact he failed so badly that edwards doubled his support over obama in those age groups for whites. doubled...that is massive. and of course edwards is in his home state. its likely those votes were siphoned off of hilary. either way. its not quite the win you pretend it to be. its not momentum, its simply a win in a very black state where racial politics obviously swung the race his way. but in the rest of america, blacks population isn't skewed so massively as in south carolina.

so what have we learned. blacks like obama. and now the race is clearly race based.

what the hell are you talking about?! The following concerns SC, and was taken from the same cnn.com article I linked to previously:

But Obama handily defeated Clinton in every other bracket, and overall garnered 58 percent of the vote among 18 to 64-year-olds while 23 percent of those voters picked Clinton.
:confused:

That doesn't seem right. I read that Obama got 25 percent of the white vote. In fact if he got 80 percent of the black vote(which was more than half the total vote) , and 58 percent of the white vote he would have gotten like 67 percent of the total vote instead of 55 percent.
Those initial numbers did not break down the percentages based on race. Obama nailed 55% of all votes in SC, and 58% of all votes by those aged 18 to 64.

Nowhere did I, or anyone, say that he received "58% of the white vote."
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Similar to the story Hillary told about being named after Sir Edmund Hillary, only problem was that Hillary was totally unkown when Mrs. Hillary was born... oops

maybe she didn't know.

/shrug

I thought I was named after Alan Alda until, like, 3 months ago.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: palehorse74
From cnn.com...
The Illinois senator earned more than twice the vote that rival Sen. Hillary Clinton did, 55 percent to 27 percent, unofficial returns showed.
:D:Q Ouch, that has to sting a bit for the Billary fanbois! :Q:D

It is surprising. Didn't the polls show him winning by ~8%?
It appears that polls are still useless when it comes to making predictions about any of the top contenders...

Looks like it. Obama was projected to win NH by 9-13 points and wound up losing. Here he was looking to win by about the same margins and opened up a 28 point can of whoop-ass. Hill probably knew she wasn't going to win SC (she left for Tenn before the polls closed and didn't give any speech) but I don't think she expected to get trounced like this.

I guess we'll see how much momentum Obama carries over into next Tuesday.

its not momentum. 4 out of 5 blacks voted for obama which makes up the vast majority of his lead. he failed to win over any white people who were over 29. in fact he failed so badly that edwards doubled his support over obama in those age groups for whites. doubled...that is massive. and of course edwards is in his home state. its likely those votes were siphoned off of hilary. either way. its not quite the win you pretend it to be. its not momentum, its simply a win in a very black state where racial politics obviously swung the race his way. but in the rest of america, blacks population isn't skewed so massively as in south carolina.

so what have we learned. blacks like obama. and now the race is clearly race based.

what the hell are you talking about?! The following concerns SC, and was taken from the same cnn.com article I linked to previously:

But Obama handily defeated Clinton in every other bracket, and overall garnered 58 percent of the vote among 18 to 64-year-olds while 23 percent of those voters picked Clinton.
:confused:

That doesn't seem right. I read that Obama got 25 percent of the white vote. In fact if he got 80 percent of the black vote(which was more than half the total vote) , and 58 percent of the white vote he would have gotten like 67 percent of the total vote instead of 55 percent.
Those initial numbers did not break down the percentages based on race. Obama nailed 55% of all votes in SC, and 58% of all votes by those aged 18 to 64.

Nowhere did I, or anyone, say that he received "58% of the white vote."

yea but you brought it up against my white vote stat for some reason:p if blacks are 50% of sc, and almost all of them vote obama, he's going to get a large % of the total even if whites abandon him.
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: palehorse74
From cnn.com...
The Illinois senator earned more than twice the vote that rival Sen. Hillary Clinton did, 55 percent to 27 percent, unofficial returns showed.
:D:Q Ouch, that has to sting a bit for the Billary fanbois! :Q:D

It is surprising. Didn't the polls show him winning by ~8%?
It appears that polls are still useless when it comes to making predictions about any of the top contenders...

Looks like it. Obama was projected to win NH by 9-13 points and wound up losing. Here he was looking to win by about the same margins and opened up a 28 point can of whoop-ass. Hill probably knew she wasn't going to win SC (she left for Tenn before the polls closed and didn't give any speech) but I don't think she expected to get trounced like this.

I guess we'll see how much momentum Obama carries over into next Tuesday.

its not momentum. 4 out of 5 blacks voted for obama which makes up the vast majority of his lead. he failed to win over any white people who were over 29. in fact he failed so badly that edwards doubled his support over obama in those age groups for whites. doubled...that is massive. and of course edwards is in his home state. its likely those votes were siphoned off of hilary. either way. its not quite the win you pretend it to be. its not momentum, its simply a win in a very black state where racial politics obviously swung the race his way. but in the rest of america, blacks population isn't skewed so massively as in south carolina.

so what have we learned. blacks like obama. and now the race is clearly race based.

what the hell are you talking about?! The following concerns SC, and was taken from the same cnn.com article I linked to previously:

But Obama handily defeated Clinton in every other bracket, and overall garnered 58 percent of the vote among 18 to 64-year-olds while 23 percent of those voters picked Clinton.
:confused:

That doesn't seem right. I read that Obama got 25 percent of the white vote. In fact if he got 80 percent of the black vote(which was more than half the total vote) , and 58 percent of the white vote he would have gotten like 67 percent of the total vote instead of 55 percent.
Those initial numbers did not break down the percentages based on race. Obama nailed 55% of all votes in SC, and 58% of all votes by those aged 18 to 64.

Nowhere did I, or anyone, say that he received "58% of the white vote."

yea but you brought it up against my white vote stat for some reason:p if blacks are 50% of sc, and almost all of them vote obama, he's going to get a large % of the total even if whites abandon him.
In order for Obama to gt that much of the total vote of those aged 18-64, he would have had to receive a decent percentage of the "whites over 29" as well - which is what you denied.

At least, I think so... :confused:

Whatever the case, he flat-out destroyed Billary in SC, which is all I really care about!

GO OBAMA!!!