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meltdown75

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Yeah, but boarding is not a penalty if the same play happens 'anywhere else on the ice'.

Why can't they replace the glass there with nets? I understand you need glass over the boards b/c that actually protects the players, but it's hard to imagine that a piece of glass at a right angle to the direction players are skating in is protective.

Edit: and the NHL is supposed to consider past history evey time the make a decision on suspention. A good example is Trevor Gillies, when he was suspended for the Isles/Pitts game it was light because he had no history. His next suspention was severe because now he does have history.
yes of course but in this case it is slightly different... part of the reason that there was no suspension was because he had never been suspended. this is messed up... basically means that if you have never been suspended, that you can make dirty hits and not worry about repurcussions.... nice one nhl :colbert:
 

xSauronx

Lifer
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I don't let things cloud my judgment that easily. Chara made a hit that's been made countless times. This time, and on a few other occasions, it turned out very badly.

This is an issue on the structure of Rinks, not on Intent of the Player.

Why should he have been Suspended?

because he made a careless play in violation of standard accepted game rules. it was an interference, made with a combination of carelessness (position and timing) and force (its clear that he did not slow down, let up, or hold back on the hit in any noticeable way) that resulted in a horrible player injury

society has a number of laws and penalties to deal with unfortunate accidents that may be deemed a result of carelessness. these exist (and are [at least, at times] enforced) in order to make the point that being careless can have very, very negative consequences and that it should not be tolerated or accepted as general practice.

doing nothing shows that carelessness (in particular, carelessness that is also part of an infraction) is acceptable, whatever the result.

im not saying kick him out of the nhl, but something other than "oops" would be appropriate in order to show that some level of "we give a shit" is held by chara and the league.

as it is, it pretty much looks like the nhl doesnt really give a flying fuck that pacioretty was seriously injured due to a poorly timed, very careless play (made in direct violation of a well known rule of the game), and thats a terrible stance to take in my opinion (and clearly the opinion of many others)
 

PClark99

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Jan 12, 2000
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NHL dropped the ball on this one. You can't prove intention, but it was a late hit, a dangerous hit in a part of the ice along the boards.

Lurch, I mean Chara should have gotten 3-5 games suspension.

The next time a hit like this happens, depending on who is dishing it out, what the hypocrisy of NHL discipline at work.
 

KK

Lifer
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They are getting the police involved to investigate it....Silly canucks...I think they should redesign that area to make it not so dangerous.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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yeah the "criminal charges" thing is LOLtastic...

air canada pulling sponsorship? 0_0

"Air Canada is a great brand, as is the National Hockey League," said Bettman. "And if they decide that they need to do other things with their sponsorship dollars, that is their prerogative, just that it is the prerogative of our clubs that fly on Air Canada to make other arrangements if they don't think Air Canada is not giving them the appropriate level of service."

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=555628
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
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Totally different situation. What caused Naslunds' injury would have been a Penalty and perhaps a Misconduct/Suspension these days.

Yeah, but it was legal then. Which would make it every bit the 'strong hockey play' that Chara's play was. The point is that's it's not really fair to say that you would be dispassionate if your own player was involved. You would be understandably upset.

Boston fans and media seem to not understand this either with their complete inability to STFU.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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No, Pittsburgh does. Though Boston's are bad.

"Crosschecks Chara! NO CALL!! Well, I guess that's how it's going to be..."

lol.

I can't stand listening to Washington's play by play guy just because of his voice. Sounds like he's growling.

<3 Doc
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Yeah, but it was legal then. Which would make it every bit the 'strong hockey play' that Chara's play was. The point is that's it's not really fair to say that you would be dispassionate if your own player was involved. You would be understandably upset.

Boston fans and media seem to not understand this either with their complete inability to STFU.

I'd be Upset, but the lack of Intent is the lack of Intent.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Ovechkin with the laser beam wrister to tie it and then Hendricks with his 2nd GWer vs Carolina. 5 in a row against the Canes, 7 in a row winning streak the Caps are looking good.

Boston losing to the Isles, ouch. Hoping Ottawa can hold on vs Tampa as well.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
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Ovechkin with the laser beam wrister to tie it and then Hendricks with his 2nd GWer vs Carolina. 5 in a row against the Canes, 7 in a row winning streak the Caps are looking good.

Boston losing to the Isles, ouch. Hoping Ottawa can hold on vs Tampa as well.

Isles have been one of the best teams in the league the second half. If they carry this through to next season (they can't) they'll be a playoff team.
 

sjwaste

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Isles have been one of the best teams in the league the second half. If they carry this through to next season (they can't) they'll be a playoff team.

All started when they'd had enough and decided to turn that Penguins game into a 60 minute brawl. The Isles have some good skill players, and they've established that they're not going to let other teams just run those guys every game. Doesn't hurt that Tavares is really figuring out the game at an NHL level, Okposo has found himself a nice role, and Grabner is absolutely the fastest thing on skates.
 

sjwaste

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No, Pittsburgh does. Though Boston's are bad.

"Crosschecks Chara! NO CALL!! Well, I guess that's how it's going to be..."

lol.

Pittsburgh's announcers complain a lot. But Boston's take the cake, only because EVERYTHING is wrong except the Bruins themselves. Blame the refs, the other team, the weather, whatever. But never the Bruins players themselves.

Of course, very little can match what the vomit that comes out of Milbury's mouth on a night to night basis. The guy's the biggest hypocrite the league has right now.
 

rcpratt

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Fucking. Awesome. Wings game.

Feels like a totally different experience when you're right there. Would spend $350 again.
 
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Blackjack200

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Fucking. Awesome. Wings game.

Feels like a totally different experience when you're right there. Would spend $350 again.

Agree. It must've been so cool to be right up close to Datsyuk and Zetterburg. It's amazing to watch their moves on TV, but when they do it just on the other side of the glass it's eye-popping :).

Especially Dats, he's such a wizard with the puck. Glad you had a good time.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
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All started when they'd had enough and decided to turn that Penguins game into a 60 minute brawl. The Isles have some good skill players, and they've established that they're not going to let other teams just run those guys every game. Doesn't hurt that Tavares is really figuring out the game at an NHL level, Okposo has found himself a nice role, and Grabner is absolutely the fastest thing on skates.

I actually think it was before that, although that game will certainly be remembered as a climactic point in the season. The nice thing about that game is that they didn't just kick the shit out of the players, they also scored 8 or 9 goals. The problem with the Islanders is they'll end up throwing away all this progress by not keeping the team together long enough. I thought it was really great when Moulsen made it very public that he wanted to stay with the team. A proud moment for a fanbase that hasn't had enough of them in the last 15-20 years. Tavares can really be a beast in this league, and Grabner is going to be tremendous for them.

Pittsburgh's announcers complain a lot. But Boston's take the cake, only because EVERYTHING is wrong except the Bruins themselves. Blame the refs, the other team, the weather, whatever. But never the Bruins players themselves.

Of course, very little can match what the vomit that comes out of Milbury's mouth on a night to night basis. The guy's the biggest hypocrite the league has right now.

Pittsburgh was in NJ a week or two ago and David Clarkson broke his skate blade off and couldn't skate back to the bench. Pittsburgh's announcers noticed he was skating funny and started laughing and wondering if he was hurt. I've never heard an announcer do that before. They sounded more like AM Sports jocks than professional sportscasters. But Boston, and to Mugs's point, Washington, have pretty bad announcers too.