Official Modern Warfare 2 thread

[Kabob]

The M16 was a bit overpowered in CoD 4, I'm not at all surprised they dropped the power a bit. It's still a great weapon, not the dominant rifle it was in CoD 4.

Javelin glitch should be gone in the next few days with the patch. No news on nerfing the dual 1887's (they're really the only overpowered shotguns), hopefully IW will do it though.

 

[bob4432]

I know this has been discussed and I'm late to the game, but I just unlocked the M16 the other night and I was disappointed. I only play TDM and it seems like they completely nerf'd the M16, the SCAR-H is still my favorite.

Speaking of glitching, what's with the javelin business, when is that going to get fixed? I also agree they need to do something about the shotguns, the range on those things are unbelievable. For certain maps it seems as if you are at a disadvantage for NOT using them.

i am telling you, they are loaded w/ slugs

 

[bob4432]

After struggling with a million port forwards, I just gave up and put it on DMZ and now my NAT status is open.

interesting, do you mind listing your setup - router? modem? also, do you have upnp disabld on the router? if not, maybe another machine is grabbing a port you need for the 360 periodically.

if you don't want to mess w/ it anymore i understand, i just like to get to the final issue but understand that it is kind of a waste if you just put it in the dmz - i don't think people are actively trying to hack 360s that way....yet??

 

[sygyzy]

Last night I was playing Domination at Afghan and we had Capture Point B. I saw one bad guy running in from the long end and I ran towards him but when I got to the grassy knoll around the flag, I went prone. I don't know if he saw me or was busy engaging my other teammates but when I saw his red dot stand a few feet in front of me, I popped up and shotgunned him in the face. Epic.

 

[sygyzy]

interesting, do you mind listing your setup - router? modem? also, do you have upnp disabld on the router? if not, maybe another machine is grabbing a port you need for the 360 periodically.

if you don't want to mess w/ it anymore i understand, i just like to get to the final issue but understand that it is kind of a waste if you just put it in the dmz - i don't think people are actively trying to hack 360s that way....yet??

Sure, and for the record I appreciate you trying to help figure this out.

- 360 wired directly into Linksys WRT54G running DDWRT firmware
- UPNP is enabled on the router
- 360 is assigned a static IP on the router 192.168.1.50
- DHCP range on the router is 192.168.1.2-30
- On the 360 itself, I am using DHCP but of course it grabs xxx.xxx.xxx.50 each time
- Forwarding ports I listed on a previous post.

None of this worked.

 

[bob4432]

Sure, and for the record I appreciate you trying to help figure this out.

- 360 wired directly into Linksys WRT54G running DDWRT firmware
- UPNP is enabled on the router
- 360 is assigned a static IP on the router 192.168.1.50
- DHCP range on the router is 192.168.1.2-30
- On the 360 itself, I am using DHCP but of course it grabs xxx.xxx.xxx.50 each time
- Forwarding ports I listed on a previous post.

None of this worked.

i have always turned off upnp on any router i have used, luckily for me i have only gone through 2 in the past 7yrs or so - one was a wrt54g v2 w/ hyperwrt w/ tofu (still works, thought it went out but it turned out to be the router) and the current one is a asus 520 (can't remeber the whole model number but it is on sale often for $30) running tomato. also, fwiw, my routers stay on a long time - i don't reboot them and they are on batteries - the linksys one the longest uptime of i think 300days and the current asus one is going on 60days and it still works just as good as if it was just rebooted.

any program i have that needs ports i have set to no upnp and i manually tell the program what ports to use and also the router. my home setup consists of machines running webservers, ftp servers, ssl webserver, teamspeak, ventrillo, 360, different flavors of win2k8 and ts/remote apps, multiple games/game servers etc - but all of the ports are what i allow.

have you tried to turn off upnp in the router and just use 88 & 3074 udp/tcp going to 192.168.1.50 - this may kill other programs functionality until all the necessary ports are forwarded though but just a test?

i don't understand why 53 needs to go, i thought 53 was for dns, and your router has dns info in it...i have never forwarded 53 fwiw. again, i am just wondering if another machine is grabbing a port you need. in my router, i have it set up on some laptops that may do some torrenting that get ports sent to them. i use the same ports regardless of the type of connection, i just turn off the forward to ip that the laptop isn't using (either wired or wireless connection) in the router. if both fowards are on then there are issues w/ the foward, i think the one w/ the lower ip address gets it but maybe not. so in your case, if a machine that is lower than xxx.xxx.xxx.50 needs one of your ports, then your 360 won't get it because of upnp. also, i personally put my dynamic ips as the last bank of ips, so all my static ips are lower on the totem pole. i don't know if this makes a difference or not but has served me well over the years.

just a suggestion.

 

[sygyzy]

I don't know why any of the ports I forwarded are needed. I have spent a lot of time on this topic and anytime I come across some sort of listing that says "forward these ports of Xbox Live or MW2, I add it to the list." I have UPNP on because of uTorrent. I have a specific port forwarded for it but I was under the impression that it opens additional random ports as needed.

 

[AstroManLuca]

I'm going to link to this post in the OP. I keep wanting to take a look at it but it's tough to find.

A couple things about that post.

1. Most of the information is also available here: http://novanleon.fileave.com/MW2%20Weapon Chart.gif Far as I can tell, the only thing lacking is reload speed and firing rate, but the damages, multipliers, magazine sizes, and available attachments are shown.

2. According to the above, the M93 Raffica does 40 damage at short range and 30 at long range, not 40-20 as my post said. I'm not sure which is right. It'd be easy to test yourself, though. You'd have to go into a multiplayer game with an M93 and Stopping Power and shoot another player at "long" range, hitting them with all three shots from a burst. If they die, it's 40-30 (30 x 3 x 1.4 is more than 100). If not, it's 40-20 (20 x 3 x 1.4 is less than 100). Having a silencer might make it easier since the "long" range will come sooner.

3. Also according to the chart I linked, the Desert Eagle does 50-40 damage rather than 50-30 as I listed in my post. Again, don't know which is right. For that one you'd have to hit someone with two shots with stopping power at long range.

I'm not sure those small differences are really that important. I mean, how often are you shooting someone with a Desert Eagle or M93 Raffica at long range? You could test them if you want but I'm not sure it really matters.

You know what else... dual 1887s are so powerful in this game I'm actually thinking about going prestige after all just so I don't abuse them royally once I hit level 67. They overpower everything that isn't really long range. Akimbo of anything that isn't also dual 1887s is outclassed. Tac knife + commando gets outclassed as well. If the range was more in line with what the Ranger has, it'd be more balanced.

 

[bob4432]

I don't know why any of the ports I forwarded are needed. I have spent a lot of time on this topic and anytime I come across some sort of listing that says "forward these ports of Xbox Live or MW2, I add it to the list." I have UPNP on because of uTorrent. I have a specific port forwarded for it but I was under the impression that it opens additional random ports as needed.

you can have utorrnent either use the same port or a random one each time - i personally just change mine every so often but don't let it do any router changes, so i have that portion off.

i have never seen all those other ports you listed for mw2 - in all the time i have used the 360, i have only used 88 and 3074 - now the pc is a different animal and many games need a lot of ports forwarded and then even more when you run a game server, but for the 360, as far as i can remember it has always been 88 and 3074.

a bit off topic, but i could never get the 360 to stream on the home network, so there is always something that goes wrong somewhere

good luck and i hope this helps you out.

just out of curiosity, how many devices are connected to your lan?

 

[yours truly]

They're cheating. There's a guy I recently removed from my friend's list (nothing personal, I'd never actually played with him though) who's using some glitch to keep his wins set as a "streak" even though his losses keep coming up. When I first started watching him he was at something like 80-10 wins:losses. A few days ago he was at 700-50 and he had a 700 win streak...he's a good player (he was #147 on the CoD 4 kill's leaderboards) but I can tell he's doing something buggy....

Hey Kabob I think you're referring to me - hopeless on AVForums and my GT is DeadSoulPlayer. I can assure you I have never cheated in the 30+years I've been gaming. And I do take offence if you think I'm boosting.

I generally only play FFA especially at the moment as I want to see how high my winstreak can go. Currently it's around 800 or so with a 12.3 win ratio. I'm not 100% sure how the winstreak is worked out in MW2, but I do know, if you enter a game which is already in progress it won't end your streak and so far the lowest I've placed is 2nd.

If you think I'm cheating either a) join my game and see for yourself or b) ask the guys over at AVForums - they know who I am and I've played them many times before.

You've seen my stats and trust me I can hold my own against any player in the world.

 

[Kabob]

Hey Kabob I think you're referring to me - hopeless on AVForums and my GT is DeadSoulPlayer. I can assure you I have never cheated in the 30+years I've been gaming. And I do take offence if you think I'm boosting.

I generally only play FFA especially at the moment as I want to see how high my winstreak can go. Currently it's around 800 or so with a 12.3 win ratio. I'm not 100% sure how the winstreak is worked out in MW2, but I do know, if you enter a game which is already in progress it won't end your streak and so far the lowest I've placed is 2nd.

If you think I'm cheating either a) join my game and see for yourself or b) ask the guys over at AVForums - they know who I am and I've played them many times before.

You've seen my stats and trust me I can hold my own against any player in the world.

Not trying to call you out but your win streak hasn't broken yet you've lost quite a few times. You've got a phenominal kill/win ratio, not sure why your streak keeps going up for wins though. Might be a bug in the game.

I've tried joining your games before, you're always set to "appear offline," I do want to game with you at some point. My friends list filled up and I'd yet to even talk to you on XBL so I removed ya. No offense to ya.

 

[yours truly]

Not trying to call you out but your win streak hasn't broken yet you've lost quite a few times. You've got a phenominal kill/win ratio, not sure why your streak keeps going up for wins though. Might be a bug in the game.

I've tried joining your games before, you're always set to "appear offline," I do want to game with you at some point. My friends list filled up and I'd yet to even talk to you on XBL so I removed ya. No offense to ya.

OK that's fair enough. You're right I do keep my status offline. I get too many people joining my game and getting silly messages. I like playing alone.

But sorry if I'm being pedantic but we did "talk", you asked me for tips on how to improve your game

But whatever my friend have fun!

 

[Cuda1447]

Hey Kabob I think you're referring to me - hopeless on AVForums and my GT is DeadSoulPlayer. I can assure you I have never cheated in the 30+years I've been gaming. And I do take offence if you think I'm boosting.

I generally only play FFA especially at the moment as I want to see how high my winstreak can go. Currently it's around 800 or so with a 12.3 win ratio. I'm not 100% sure how the winstreak is worked out in MW2, but I do know, if you enter a game which is already in progress it won't end your streak and so far the lowest I've placed is 2nd.

If you think I'm cheating either a) join my game and see for yourself or b) ask the guys over at AVForums - they know who I am and I've played them many times before.

You've seen my stats and trust me I can hold my own against any player in the world.

In FFA does placing 2nd or 3rd award you with a win?

 

[yours truly]

No it counts as a loss, but coming 2nd or 3rd doesn't end your winstreak.

 

[Stuxnet]

SO. PISSED.

Was on a 23 kill streak with a Pave Low in the air... 2 away from a nuke and BAM: disconnected from Xbox Live.

In all my years on Live, this is probably like the 2nd !@#$ing time that's happend.

!@#$

 

[bucwylde23]

SO. PISSED.

Was on a 23 kill streak with a Pave Low in the air... 2 away from a nuke and BAM: disconnected from Xbox Live.

In all my years on Live, this is probably like the 2nd !@#$ing time that's happend.

!@#$

That sucks, cockblocked by XBL. That's pretty random too.

 

[maziwanka]

That sucks, cockblocked by XBL. That's pretty random too.

seriously. that is a sick streak man. i was just happy with my high today - 15 kill streak is my highest to date and i had a 29 and 3 game shortly afterwards too. im only at level 24, so i can't use other guns yet, but i picked up those overpowered dual shotguns and holy fuck are they awesome. i always got pissed when ppl used them against me, but i gotta say they're pretty fun to use. haha

edit: quick question. i finally got the bling perk - is it worth it to combo the FMJ with the red dot sight for extra damage or is the extra damage not worth it? is bling worth it? i really liked the fast reload/quicker focus perk (forget the name). maybe i should combo heartbeat and red dot sight?

 

[Stuxnet]

seriously. that is a sick streak man. i was just happy with my high today - 15 kill streak is my highest to date and i had a 29 and 3 game shortly afterwards too. im only at level 24, so i can't use other guns yet, but i picked up those overpowered dual shotguns and holy fuck are they awesome. i always got pissed when ppl used them against me, but i gotta say they're pretty fun to use. haha

Heck, I think the dual Rangers are overpowered, but yeah, you get your hands on those dual 1887's, hold on for the ride! If your target is even remotely on your screen, you'll take him down.

I'm thinking about sniping with them once I unlock them.

From a weapon balance standpoint, they did really well across the board so that each weapon has at least one or two redeeming qualities. But Commando and dual 1887's are FUCKED. It's real freaking awesome when you put 2 bullets into a guy 10 feet away, but then he teleports and stabs you.

 

[maziwanka]

Heck, I think the dual Rangers are overpowered, but yeah, you get your hands on those dual 1887's, hold on for the ride! If your target is even remotely on your screen, you'll take him down.

I'm thinking about sniping with them once I unlock them.

From a weapon balance standpoint, they did really well across the board so that each weapon has at least one or two redeeming qualities. But Commando and dual 1887's are FUCKED. It's real freaking awesome when you put 2 bullets into a guy 10 feet away, but then he teleports and stabs you.

hahaha. yea i saw that from 3rd person pov once. i was like holy mother that dude fucking flew forward.

the biggest thing i learned in mw2 is that patience is king.

 

[mugs]

After killing a guy who had just killed one of my teammates I found akimbo 1887s on the ground, so I picked them up figuring if the other team was using them it's kosher for me to use them. Tore it up for a little while, then I realized that it was my teammate who had dropped the 1887s and I felt bad. Other team must have been pretty pissed.

Then I airdropped a chopper gunner.

 

[SAWYER]

I LOVED MW1 so had high hopes for this, I didn't like it as much. I can't comment on the mp as I prefer Halo, but the story and sp game was just meh.

 

[Kev]

i recently switched to predator/harrier/pave low.

the 5 times i got to the pavelow, both my harrier and pavelow were shot down instantly. fucking annoying. back to care package i go.

 

[iamwiz82]

After killing a guy who had just killed one of my teammates I found akimbo 1887s on the ground, so I picked them up figuring if the other team was using them it's kosher for me to use them. Tore it up for a little while, then I realized that it was my teammate who had dropped the 1887s and I felt bad. Other team must have been pretty pissed.

Then I airdropped a chopper gunner.

I found a set yesterday, as well. I set my longest streak with them. :awe:

 

[Kabob]

No it counts as a loss, but coming 2nd or 3rd doesn't end your winstreak.

Ooooooooooh, I did not know that. I thought you were somehow "beating the system" to keep the streak running. Please consider this a formal apology, I didn't realize it.

We need to play sometime, I'll let you use me as a sniper target (no moving) to make it up!

-Chris

 

[Kabob]

The patch is out. I turned the 360 on to play 1 match before I came to work and it downloaded. Not sure of what all it fixed but it is out.

Heck, I think the dual Rangers are overpowered, but yeah, you get your hands on those dual 1887's, hold on for the ride! If your target is even remotely on your screen, you'll take him down.

I'm thinking about sniping with them once I unlock them.

From a weapon balance standpoint, they did really well across the board so that each weapon has at least one or two redeeming qualities. But Commando and dual 1887's are FUCKED. It's real freaking awesome when you put 2 bullets into a guy 10 feet away, but then he teleports and stabs you.

Dual 1887's have GOT to be bugged, there's no way that IW would intentionally make them that powerful. Literally 50-60 feet away w/o stopping power it's a 1 shot kill. And +1, Commando is annoying as all get out. Forget 2 bullets, I hit a guy with 3 or 4 and he still teleported and got me. Ghey!

I LOVED MW1 so had high hopes for this, I didn't like it as much. I can't comment on the mp as I prefer Halo, but the story and sp game was just meh.

MW2 < CoD 4. It's a fun game but it's not as good as #4. I still enjoy it though.

i recently switched to predator/harrier/pave low.

the 5 times i got to the pavelow, both my harrier and pavelow were shot down instantly. fucking annoying. back to care package i go.

Stick with it. The one game I played this morning I was using an MP5K with Rapid Fire (trying to unlock Akimbo) on Highrise and amazingly even with the weapon disadvantage I dominated. I got my Harriers and Pave Low in the air at the same time and want to say they got maybe 6 kills each (Two with the Harrier's bombs). They are easy to shoot down but when no-one is trying they are beasts.

On another note I played a game last night on Highrise and the enemy team got on top of our building. Not on the scaffolding/windows above the Terrorist side but on TOP of the entire building on the Rangers side. No clue how they did it...it sucked though.