Official GTX560 Review Thread (updated with 17 reviews at this time)

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Keysplayr

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While you guys duke it out over 3 watts here, $5 there and WTFBBQ anything else you can dream up, could we have another thread for the GTX560 that only has serious discussion? In other words, none of this drivel allowed?
 

Lonyo

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While you guys duke it out over 3 watts here, $5 there and WTFBBQ anything else you can dream up, could we have another thread for the GTX560 that only has serious discussion? In other words, none of this drivel allowed?

Hi, welcome to the video cards and graphics forum. Please enjoy your stay.
 

endlessmike133

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I've been checking out all the reviews and whatnot all day and the conclusion I've come to is:

The GTX 570 is still your best choice if you want an amazing GFX card that will give you great perforamnce through the next few years.
 

Skurge

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While you guys duke it out over 3 watts here, $5 there and WTFBBQ anything else you can dream up, could we have another thread for the GTX560 that only has serious discussion? In other words, none of this drivel allowed?

Like this post?
 

Stoneburner

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While you guys duke it out over 3 watts here, $5 there and WTFBBQ anything else you can dream up, could we have another thread for the GTX560 that only has serious discussion? In other words, none of this drivel allowed?

I think the devolution into minutiae perfectly summarizes the 560 vs 6950....

It's damn close.
 

cusideabelincoln

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While you guys duke it out over 3 watts here, $5 there and WTFBBQ anything else you can dream up, could we have another thread for the GTX560 that only has serious discussion? In other words, none of this drivel allowed?

Drivel? I laugh (on several levels), but have you really not been around for past reviews?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2127637&highlight=6970+review

The discussion is about the 560 and how it relates to it's competitors - including the 460 and 570 along with the AMD cards. I don't see how that is drivel. What would you like us to discuss, if not those things? Should we just post how the 560 Ti is the "King of the Heroes of All Time"? Bow down to Nvidia's greatness?

Nvidia didn't bring much new (unsurprising) to the table. The 560 is as expected - not really a new architecture so there aren't any surprises here. I suppose the most interesting part is the reference cooler, which is pretty nice, but silicon performance characteristics is priority on this "technical" forum.

There's no more (less?) drivel here than history has provided. Seems like a healthy discussion, if we ignore the blatantly ludicrous comments. Since there is little that now separates all of these cards, the tiny differences can be a deciding factor. Prices are good; performance is good.
 

SolMiester

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I wasn't arguing that a single AMD card performs stellar with triple monitors, I was arguing the fact that Mr. SolMiester says that eyefinity is not considered a feature because a single card cannot perform well yet he considers 3D Vision a feature for GTX 5xx series even though there is a performance hit when enabling 3D.

Yea, you would need to pay a wopping 20$-30$ more! Oh NOES!

I have looked at widescreen gaming\eyefinity, and believe 30-40FPS is not enough to consider it a viable feature for 1 card, least not the benchies I saw...and as for the extra buck for more RAM, that removes the 6950 as a price competitor for the 560Ti....!
 

SolMiester

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Well, with AMD cards, you can have both!

Still 3D is more demanding than eyefinity. Also I could 3 monitors for the price of 1 120hz monitor.

Another thing. 560s are horrific in surround. Forget about 3d surround.
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...d-sli-performance-bad-company-2-surround.html
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...-sli-performance-crysis-warhead-surround.html
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...iew-and-sli-performance-f1-2010-surround.html

It doesnt do any better than a single 6950/6970. For a $500 setup, that is pretty poor.

Never said anything about surround with the 560Ti did I!
 

Skurge

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I have looked at widescreen gaming\eyefinity, and believe 30-40FPS is not enough to consider it a viable feature for 1 card, least not the benchies I saw...and as for the extra buck for more RAM, that removes the 6950 as a price competitor for the 560Ti....!

Talk about double standards. and you think a single 560 will do better in 3d?
No, really I would like to know the answer to that.

Look at every single game, cut the framerate exactly in half then you have your answer.

For eyefinity the reduction in framerate is not linear to the increase in resolution. Blastingcap illustrated that nicely. Can't find his post right now.

I know you didn't say anything about surround. Just showing that a 560 is basically no good for 3D, surround or 3D surround. Even with 2 cards, the performance is still subpar. So those features don't count.

That leaves Physx, that's well a feature I guess.
and CUDA, AMD has APP so there is still nothing between a 6950 and a 560. I don't know why everyone is trying to find differences that are not really there.

You could just cut the crap and say you prefer nVidia, that would make things so much easier.
 

DaveSimmons

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While you guys duke it out over 3 watts here, $5 there and WTFBBQ anything else you can dream up, could we have another thread for the GTX560 that only has serious discussion? In other words, none of this drivel allowed?

What should we be discussing if not how the 560 compares to other cards (both nv and AMD) in terms of price, performance, heat, power draw and noise?

The 6950 using 22 watts less power in Crysis will matter to some people, see for example this thread about using a mini-ITX case with 450 watt PSU:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2138143

Heat, noise and power do matter to some of us.

Price and performance matter to almost all of us.

The 560 TI is a nice card at a good price, but it isn't going to be the perfect card for everyone and all uses. This thread discusses pros and cons.
 

fuseshock

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Given the price of the "superclocked" versions of the 560 at $270, would it be better to buy a 2GB 6950 with rebate at $280 and unlock it to a 6970?

Or just buy a standard nonreference cooler GTX 560 and just overclock it past 950mhz yourself?
 

badb0y

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I have looked at widescreen gaming\eyefinity, and believe 30-40FPS is not enough to consider it a viable feature for 1 card, least not the benchies I saw...and as for the extra buck for more RAM, that removes the 6950 as a price competitor for the 560Ti....!
Look at what I responded too. You think a GTX 560 Ti will do 30-40 fps in 3d? get real.
 

Infrnl

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1 thing the 560 gives that AMD can't is superior folding performance which is whats important to me.
 

happy medium

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The 6950 using 22 watts less power in Crysis will matter to some people, see for example this thread about using a mini-ITX case with 450 watt PSU:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2138143

Heat, noise and power do matter to some of us

So does size and the Palit gtx560 is only 7.5 inches long (compared to 10 inches) and has less idle power and noise and power consumption. And it uses much less power to play HD videos and cost 18$ less.

Good points ha?

but the 6950 uses 22 watts less during crysis and is still a good card.
 
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Skurge

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That review has the gtx560 at 1000 core beating a gtx570 and 6970 2gb In crysis warhead, Black ops and BC2.

Notice in this review they overclocked the memory on the gtx560 as well. That may be the difference.:hmm:

As I've been saying all along. I think bandwidth will limit the 560. That memory controller could be its downfall when the other cards are overclocked. The 570 gets around that with a wider bus and the 6900 have a superior controller with 6gbps memory.

EDIT: I wouldn't call 1-2fps beating.
Also, that review shows once again, the SOC has no headroom. Great card, I would buy it, but you just can't compare it to 570/6970. They cost more for a reason.
 
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badb0y

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A GTX 560 Ti at 1000 Core = GTX 570/HD 6970. What does a 6950 1000 Core equal? Has anyone even pushed it that far?
 

happy medium

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As I've been saying all along. I think bandwidth will limit the 560. That memory controller could be its downfall when the other cards are overclocked. The 570 gets around that with a wider bus and the 6900 have a superior controller with 6gbps memory.

yes you have,and see what happends when a reviewer overclocks the memory? Mabe other review sites should take a lesson. :)