Official GTX560 Review Thread (updated with 17 reviews at this time)

[happy medium]

A GTX 560 Ti at 1000 Core = GTX 570/HD 6970. What does a 6950 1000 Core equal? Has anyone even pushed it that far?

As far as we can tell they are about equal.

Note you need to increase the voltage with the 6950 to achieve 1000 core or buy a gtx560ti SOC for 13$ more and get it over 1000+ core without a voltage bump.

 

[happy medium]

EDIT: I wouldn't call 1-2fps beating.
Also, that review shows once again, the SOC has no headroom. Great card, I would buy it, but you just can't compare it to 570/6970. They cost more for a reason.
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I would. what do you call it?

And for the record thats not a gtx560 SOC its a gigabyte oc card with a regular overclock WITHOUT VOLTAGE. yea wow! thats what I said.

Are you a believer yet?

 

[Castiel]

A GTX 560 Ti at 1000 Core = GTX 570/HD 6970. What does a 6950 1000 Core equal? Has anyone even pushed it that far?

I can't find any 6950 overclocking results.

 

[Skurge]

A GTX 560 Ti at 1000 Core = GTX 570/HD 6970. What does a 6950 1000 Core equal? Has anyone even pushed it that far?

Easily beats a 570/6970. Around 580 performance I would say. I can only show 3Dmark11 scores though.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_6950_Twin_Frozr_II/31.html

The other 6950 that do 1Ghz are all unlocked. Which shows the incredible unlock rate of these cards.

http://arzepakistan.com/showthread.php?63489-Ati-6950-hacked-gpu-on-1ghz

 

[badb0y]

As far as we can tell they are about equal.

Note you need to increase the voltage with the 6950 to achieve 1000 core or buy a gtx560ti SOC for 13$ more and get it over 1000+ core without a voltage bump.

But I already have a 6950 and don't feel like switching around, too much work for too little performance difference. As it stands I got a 6970-like performance at 260$ just wanna push it further, the GTX 560 is an interesting card and I will probably end up buying it for the hell of it lol.

Easily beats a 570/6970. Around 580 performance I would say. I can only show 3Dmark11 scores though.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_6950_Twin_Frozr_II/31.html

The other 6950 that do 1Ghz are all unlocked. Which shows the incredible unlock rate of these cards.

http://arzepakistan.com/showthread.php?63489-Ati-6950-hacked-gpu-on-1ghz

Mine is hacked already running at 900 mhz stock voltage. I want to push it to 1000 Core, I can do it but I will probably need to push voltage like happy_medium said, I have a Thermalright Shaman Cooler coming in the mail We shall see the results soon enough!

 

[SolMiester]

Talk about double standards. and you think a single 560 will do better in 3d?
No, really I would like to know the answer to that.

Look at every single game, cut the framerate exactly in half then you have your answer.

For eyefinity the reduction in framerate is not linear to the increase in resolution. Blastingcap illustrated that nicely. Can't find his post right now.

I know you didn't say anything about surround. Just showing that a 560 is basically no good for 3D, surround or 3D surround. Even with 2 cards, the performance is still subpar. So those features don't count.

That leaves Physx, that's well a feature I guess.
and CUDA, AMD has APP so there is still nothing between a 6950 and a 560. I don't know why everyone is trying to find differences that are not really there.

You could just cut the crap and say you prefer nVidia, that would make things so much easier.

I have no problem stating I prefer nVidia just like you prefer AMD, so yeah easier....I have no idea what the performance hit is with 3D, but dont imagine it is as much as eyefinity, and I welcome any benchies. There is hardly much difference between the 2 cards, I certainly think the dual BIOS is a plus for the 6950, though understand that only the 1st batch of reference cards. At any rate, the AMD 1Gb version was release to compete on price against the 560, yet eyefinity in my understanding need 2Gb version so that negates that function in my view.
Eyefinity
Batteforge = 22FPS
Dirt 2 = 38FPS
Fry Cry = 52FPS
Hawk = 52FPS
Just Cause = 32FPS
STAlkER = 13FPS in best benchmark
Thats with the 2GB version 1 card, 2 games, so I dont know how Blastingcap plays with a 6870....

That leave CUDA, compute & PhyX...560Ti is miles ahead in Compute, AMD doesnt do CUDA or PhyX...
If it was between 8-16x AA and 4AA & PhyX, id rather have the latter.

Im not saying the 6950 is a shit card, just that the 560 is cheaper, has more functionally and is quieter, so a best value card...

 

[Skurge]

I would. what do you call it?

And for the record thats not a gtx560 SOC its a gigabyte oc card with a regular overclock WITHOUT VOLTAGE. yea wow! thats what I said.

Are you a believer yet?

OK, tell me.

Whats the voltage for a reference 560, for the gigabyte OC and the gigabyte SOC?

I bet you have no idea. Each 560 comes with difference voltage. Thats why the gigabyte card uses almost as much power as a 570, but is a huge amount slower before its overclocked. Wonder how much more power it uses when it is overclocked? Can you tell me?

 

[happy medium]

But I already have a 6950 and don't feel like switching around, too much work for too little performance difference. As it stands I got a 6970-like performance at 260$ just wanna push it further, the GTX 560 is an interesting card and I will probably end up buying it for the hell of it lol.

I would not do that, your card is a great value and a good performer. But if you have money to burn and what to have a little overclocking fun, just by a gtx560 SOC add voltage and you should get to the 1100 core mark rather easy..

 

[SolMiester]

Look at what I responded too. You think a GTX 560 Ti will do 30-40 fps in 3d? get real.

I dont know perhaps @ 16x10 it will...I didnt say it would...Id certainly like to check some benchies on it.

 

[happy medium]

OK, tell me.

Whats the voltage for a reference 560, for the gigabyte OC and the gigabyte SOC?

I bet you have no idea. Each 560 comes with difference voltage. Thats why the gigabyte card uses almost as much power as a 570, but is a huge amount slower before its overclocked. Wonder how much more power it uses when it is overclocked? Can you tell me?

.975 to 1.15v , if I remember correctly, depends on the manufacturer.

I'm not going through all those reviews to answer you questions, badboy just answered it for me.

 

[badb0y]

I dont know perhaps @ 16x10 it will...I didnt say it would...Id certainly like to check some benchies on it.

Just googled it and the first thing was http://www.legitreviews.com/article/889/6/

Less than half, maybe someone with an actual set can chime in, I might be totally off here.

Hey happy so how well do you think 1200 Core on a GTX 560 will do? Faster than the GTX 580 maybe?

EDIT: http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-geforce-3d-vision-review/10 3D vision review.

 

[Skurge]

I have no problem stating I prefer nVidia just like you prefer AMD, so yeah easier....I have no idea what the performance hit is with 3D, but dont imagine it is as much as eyefinity, and I welcome any benchies. There is hardly much difference between the 2 cards, I certainly think the dual BIOS is a plus for the 6950, though understand that only the 1st batch of reference cards. At any rate, the AMD 1Gb version was release to compete on price against the 560, yet eyefinity in my understanding need 2Gb version so that negates that function in my view.
Eyefinity
Batteforge = 22FPS
Dirt 2 = 38FPS
Fry Cry = 52FPS
Hawk = 52FPS
Just Cause = 32FPS
STAlkER = 13FPS in best benchmark
Thats with the 2GB version 1 card, 2 games, so I dont know how Blastingcap plays with a 6870....

That leave CUDA, compute & PhyX...560Ti is miles ahead in Compute, AMD doesnt do CUDA or PhyX...
If it was between 8-16x AA and 4AA & PhyX, id rather have the latter.

Im not saying the 6950 is a shit card, just that the 560 is cheaper, has more functionally and is quieter, so a best value card...

You might have different expectations of whats playable so I'll let that be.

You can't say the 560 is miles ahead in compute, as it doesn't have double precision. Also, its not that clear cut. A 560 is miles ahead in folding, but a 6950 will be more than 2x as fast as a 580 in milkyway@home. a 560 will be faster at video transcoding, but the image quality is crap so thats up to you. a 6950 is much faster at bruteforcing passwords.

So I don't see any card better at compute. They are about equal to me.

You might prefer physx, but I play a ton of GTR-evo and I emulate GT4 on my PC and would love to run an eyefinity setup GTR would work great with it.

Just like you said, If I had to choose 8xAA or eyefinity, I would choose eyefinity.

Thats why I keep saying these cards are neck and neck.

 

[happy medium]

Hey happy so how well do you think 1200 Core on a GTX 560 will do? Faster than the GTX 580 maybe?

About 40% faster then a stock gtx560 if you overclock the memory also. I would say it would be dam close. equal to or - 5%

 

[Skurge]

.975 to 1.15v , if I remember correctly, depends on the manufacturer.

I'm not going through all those reviews to answer you questions, badboy just answered it for me.

I think that just proves my point, no?

You can't say it's stock voltage if each card ends up with different voltages. nVidia limits it to 1.15 i think. So if the gigabyte cards comes with 1.15v then its stock volts now is it? Its max volts.

The other card I saw had 1.07v and it would OC to only 930mhz I think.

 

[SolMiester]

Just googled it and the first thing was http://www.legitreviews.com/article/889/6/

Less than half, maybe someone with an actual set can chime in, I might be totally off here.

Hey happy so how well do you think 1200 Core on a GTX 560 will do? Faster than the GTX 580 maybe?

EDIT: http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-geforce-3d-vision-review/10 3D vision review.

So that was with an old core quad and a GTX260 and 40 FPS w\ 100% depth!.....therefore a 560 should pi** in with a current gen CPU..

Edit, it was also w\ high AA

 

[MangoX]

NVIDIA dropping the price on it's last gen card seems status quo to me.

Lol try harder

They dropped the price of the 470 before the 580 even released so how is that last gen? AFAIK it was current gen at the time.

 

[badb0y]

So that was with an old core quad and a GTX260 and 40 FPS w\ 100% depth!.....therefore a 560 should pi** in with a current gen CPU..

Edit, it was also w\ high AA

Are you completely missing the point? Or do you like to spin things all the time? 3D is not run on a CPU but on a GPU. If there is no bottleneck on the GPU the performance hit should be 30-50%. That's just like Eyefinity so we can write of 3D right? RIGHT?

 

[badb0y]

About 40% faster then a stock gtx560 if you overclock the memory also. I would say it would be dam close. equal to or - 5%

Wow I am buying books for classes right now but if I have some money left over I will buy the Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti too .

 

[SolMiester]

You might have different expectations of whats playable so I'll let that be.

You can't say the 560 is miles ahead in compute, as it doesn't have double precision. Also, its not that clear cut. A 560 is miles ahead in folding, but a 6950 will be more than 2x as fast as a 580 in milkyway@home. a 560 will be faster at video transcoding, but the image quality is crap so thats up to you. a 6950 is much faster at bruteforcing passwords.

So I don't see any card better at compute. They are about equal to me.

You might prefer physx, but I play a ton of GTR-evo and I emulate GT4 on my PC and would love to run an eyefinity setup GTR would work great with it.

Just like you said, If I had to choose 8xAA or eyefinity, I would choose eyefinity.

Thats why I keep saying these cards are neck and neck.

I cant and havent argued that, however you havent commented on the eyefinity benchies that didnt even have 8AA and were unplayable whereas 3D and PhyX is viable on the 560 and therefore the card has more to offer, not to mention its the 1Gb 6950 that is the price competitor to the 560 and eyefinity with 1Gb can only be worse.....other than that the performance is equal.

 

[Skurge]

So that was with an old core quad and a GTX260 and 40 FPS w\ 100% depth!.....therefore a 560 should pi** in with a current gen CPU..

Edit, it was also w\ high AA

I would hope so, since that left 4 dead 1 at 1680x1050

 

[happy medium]

I think that just proves my point, no?

You can't say it's stock voltage if each card ends up with different voltages. nVidia limits it to 1.15 i think. So if the gigabyte cards comes with 1.15v then its stock volts now is it? Its max volts.

The other card I saw had 1.07v and it would OC to only 930mhz I think.

Max voltage on all gtx460 cards is 1.3x volts. ANy reason why a gtx560 would not be the same?

I thought you meant from the factory.

 

[badb0y]

I cant and havent argued that, however you havent commented on the eyefinity benchies that didnt even have 8AA and were unplayable whereas 3D and PhyX is viable on the 560 and therefore the card has more to offer, not to mention its the 1Gb 6950 that is the price competitor to the 560 and eyefinity with 1Gb can only be worse.....other than that the performance is equal.

I hope you realize someday that AMD card have 3D support too.

 

[MangoX]

I have looked at widescreen gaming\eyefinity, and believe 30-40FPS is not enough to consider it a viable feature for 1 card, least not the benchies I saw...and as for the extra buck for more RAM, that removes the 6950 as a price competitor for the 560Ti....!

The 6950 still wins since it was able to render 30-40fps, while the 560 gets ZERO fps. Oh wait, it's not even supported on the 560 :whiste:

 

[SolMiester]

Are you completely missing the point? Or do you like to spin things all the time? 3D is not run on a CPU but on a GPU. If there is no bottleneck on the GPU the performance hit should be 30-50%. That's just like Eyefinity so we can write of 3D right? RIGHT?

eh?, how do you think the GPU gets its data!...surely you are aware a faster CPU helps with frame rates...and the 260 is slower than the 560...yet 3D was shown as 40FPS on the 260, so you are incorrect 3D is viable on the 560.......RIGHT!

 

[MangoX]

1 thing the 560 gives that AMD can't is superior folding performance which is whats important to me.

I agree. This is about the only thing pushing me to get a 560. My PPD has tanked ever since I got my 6950.