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Homer Simpson

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i noticed last night that the caspian servers all seemed to have punkbuster ON finally. hopefully that will weed out the annoying cheaters.
 

VulgarDisplay

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The stinger missiles are unbelievably awesome. Stupid helo and jet whores, beware!

They need to fix the helo's and jets because they are pointless right now. I flew around for 45 minutes yesterday in a jet shooting infantry and tanks left and right and got 0 kills. The chopper has bf2 physics but the air is vaseline. Your movements in the chopper do not reflect how hard you are banking, so it's nearly impossible to dodge anything. If they are going to give every engineer AA missiles they need to make the jet cannon a whole lot better.
 

s44

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Aircraft should be spotting everything, not necessarily wasting time with individual engagements... Except against armor of course.
 

novasatori

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They need to fix the helo's and jets because they are pointless right now. I flew around for 45 minutes yesterday in a jet shooting infantry and tanks left and right and got 0 kills. The chopper has bf2 physics but the air is vaseline. Your movements in the chopper do not reflect how hard you are banking, so it's nearly impossible to dodge anything. If they are going to give every engineer AA missiles they need to make the jet cannon a whole lot better.

nope..
the A-10 and SU-25 are in the game for A2G, the jets we are playing on Caspian are for A2A primarially, and they work good at it

jets also get a laser guided missile unlock which can be guided to out of LOS targets by Recon SOFLAM

the helos could use a bit of help though
 
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GullyFoyle

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Reminder: Beta ends 10/10

crash7801, Enlisted: 09/26/2011

10/09/2011 06:21AM , edited 10/09/2011 07:21AM by crash7801

Thanks to everyone that participated in the Battlefield 3 Open Beta, especially those that contributed their feedback and ideas. Your input has helped to make the final release of Battlefield 3 all the better.

Like all good things, though, so too must the Beta come to an end. We've got to get the servers down, make updates and tweaks based upon all the feedback you've given us, and get everything ready for the big day of release.

The Battlefield 3 Open Beta will close on 12:00 PM Noon 10/10/11 CET
(Current CET time and date: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=239 [timeanddate.com] )

Thanks again to everyone who participated - we'll see you on the Battlefield.

On a personal note - here's to those of you that tried to Stab&Grab our tags ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6cMQ6kBm0k [youtube.com]

12:00 noon CET is 6:00 AM EST, 3:00 AM PST.

Here's what 12:00 noon CET is in the rest of the world.
 

rgallant

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They need to fix the helo's and jets because they are pointless right now. I flew around for 45 minutes yesterday in a jet shooting infantry and tanks left and right and got 0 kills. The chopper has bf2 physics but the air is vaseline. Your movements in the chopper do not reflect how hard you are banking, so it's nearly impossible to dodge anything. If they are going to give every engineer AA missiles they need to make the jet cannon a whole lot better.
-that's what driving a tank is like , I think they gave rpg's to the rock's and trees.
-and very few have anti - tank mines yet.
 

SLU Aequitas

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i noticed last night that the caspian servers all seemed to have punkbuster ON finally. hopefully that will weed out the annoying cheaters.

It's definitely not helping. Every Jersey server and half the CHI ones I've joined in the past 2 hours has had a hacker on them with 100+ kills, pistol kills from across the map to a pilot. Not fun.

nope..
the A-10 and SU-25 are in the game for A2G, the jets we are playing on Caspian are for A2A primarially, and they work good at it

jets also get a laser guided missile unlock which can be guided to out of LOS targets by Recon SOFLAM

the helos could use a bit of help though

This. Helo *needs* a defense boost and some agility. The jets with AA missiles do own the skies, and the AG missile upgrades are a guaranteed tank disable.
 

Mant

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I wonder what kind of clock speeds they're using for the gtx460. Because I'm using an X3 720 with the 4th core unlocked and an overclocked gtx460 and my game seems fine on high settings with the 1680x1050. I'll have to download fraps tonight and see what my actual frame rate is.

Did you get some framerates yet?
 

amddude

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They need to fix the helo's and jets because they are pointless right now. I flew around for 45 minutes yesterday in a jet shooting infantry and tanks left and right and got 0 kills. The chopper has bf2 physics but the air is vaseline. Your movements in the chopper do not reflect how hard you are banking, so it's nearly impossible to dodge anything. If they are going to give every engineer AA missiles they need to make the jet cannon a whole lot better.

The cod, cs, etc player mentality is that all air is by nature OP. Thus everyone has AA missiles. The helo, even if it flew right, is pathetically weak in the face of that.
 

maevinj

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Did you get some framerates yet?

Alright, I played some Metro. I can't connect to CB servers for some reason. Anyway min was 29 max 70.
It felt fine to me. I'm sure I could decrease some of the quality and get better fps.
 

skipsneeky2

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The cod, cs, etc player mentality is that all air is by nature OP. Thus everyone has AA missiles. The helo, even if it flew right, is pathetically weak in the face of that.

Longest time iv'e been in the air in a copter has been about 30 secs even with a good pilot...

BC2 a good pilot enables as long as 20 mins with me as gunner.

Good average maybe a min unless the pilot is a idiot and crash boom..:eek:
 

VulgarDisplay

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The joystick support in DICE games makes me want to vomit. I can't get my 360 controller or my Saitek joystick to work at all. Everything ends up being the reverse of what I want. Or it will only recognize one axis. So frustrating. and I'm sure I"m pissing people in servers off trying to get it working.
 

novasatori

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Longest time iv'e been in the air in a copter has been about 30 secs even with a good pilot...

BC2 a good pilot enables as long as 20 mins with me as gunner.

Good average maybe a min unless the pilot is a idiot and crash boom..:eek:

I can keep the helo up for quite a while, but you really have to change the way you play it for BF3, at least in the beta. While near control points, since there are so many MANPADS you need keep low and obscured behind terrain, or super high (and risk jets owning you). Alternatively (my particular favorite) keep way out in the outer region, where only jets and helos can go, and keep low, this kind of requires a gunner with the zoom upgrade though. This puts you out of MANPADS range and only jets will be able to get you, and that's only if they notice you.
 

Zargon

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1 assault, 2 engies, and a suport w c4 is a great squad for CB


gully and xrapture, I was recording the games we were in last night, nothing tooo spectacular, beyond me getting a helo kill in a jet, and ejecting from the jet and nailing a tank with the RPG while parachutting.

might have some decent stuff of xrapture since I got squaded with him though
 

KaOTiK

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After playing a few CB yesterday and such and played the game more to see on things truly worked. Vehicle regen needs to be removed or reduced a fair amount. Also, why the hell do regular fire arms even harm a tank at all? That is just stupid.
 

Zargon

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After playing a few CB yesterday and such and played the game more to see on things truly worked. Vehicle regen needs to be removed or reduced a fair amount. Also, why the hell do regular fire arms even harm a tank at all? That is just stupid.

I think only the 50 cals do, I got some damage indicators from what I think was small arms fire but no change in health, Ill check it out when i review the footage
 

skipsneeky2

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I honestly believe the game can do without the copters....at best they are risky transportation.

BC2 me as gunner i would be the top third ranking on my team blasting tanks and copters like crazy.

In BF3 even when a pilot is above a tank and i'm firing,it seems like forever and out of maybe the 20 times i went up...only took out a lousy tank...unless there is a missle unlock that minigun is a real piece of sh*t and won't bother with copters in the retail.
 

KaOTiK

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I think only the 50 cals do, I got some damage indicators from what I think was small arms fire but no change in health, Ill check it out when i review the footage

Maybe the fire was coming from some one further away I did see that happened to be behind the guy I saw shooting me. But they would just be spraying their assault rifles as at me and the health was slowly going down. That happened a few times, it is possible I was getting shot from somewhere else as receiving that fire as well but it does seem unlikely. Let me know what your video shows you though cause I maybe wrong.
 

dyndragon

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Maybe the fire was coming from some one further away I did see that happened to be behind the guy I saw shooting me. But they would just be spraying their assault rifles as at me and the health was slowly going down. That happened a few times, it is possible I was getting shot from somewhere else as receiving that fire as well but it does seem unlikely. Let me know what your video shows you though cause I maybe wrong.

You sure you're not confusing this with being disabled and on fire? When you are disabled, you have a limited amount of time before your health starts ticking down and you blow up. The sounds and visual indicators make it look like you're getting hit from different directions, and the sounds also sound like small arms fire hits, but its really the burning fire that's bleeding you out.
 

KaOTiK

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You sure you're not confusing this with being disabled and on fire? When you are disabled, you have a limited amount of time before your health starts ticking down and you blow up. The sounds and visual indicators make it look like you're getting hit from different directions, and the sounds also sound like small arms fire hits, but its really the burning fire that's bleeding you out.

At least 2 instances I can say for sure it wasn't as my tanks health was high 80s/low 90s. The other instances, this is possible and I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up on that.
 

amddude

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I honestly believe the game can do without the copters....at best they are risky transportation.

BC2 me as gunner i would be the top third ranking on my team blasting tanks and copters like crazy.

In BF3 even when a pilot is above a tank and i'm firing,it seems like forever and out of maybe the 20 times i went up...only took out a lousy tank...unless there is a missle unlock that minigun is a real piece of sh*t and won't bother with copters in the retail.

I understand you're the one in ten million player that can keep the helo alive in bc2 for more than 90 seconds. Given the 30ft ceiling those choppers fly at, that's quite a claim.

The helo will have a tv missile unlock in the final version. That to me does still not address the slathering of AA shit all over the map--and the maps aren't so big that the helo can stand off and fuck shit up from a distance.