Yep, I noticed it THAT time! 
Amazing that dude is making money on the lack of talent.....but of course that's surely not a first!
Amazing that dude is making money on the lack of talent.....but of course that's surely not a first!
Which do you mean by "that chip", the Costa?
Well, so far I tested the China at 1:1, the max it handles is 243 with no errors and 244 with one error per pass (standard mode).
It seems to like a little higher vcore (1.5875) but refused to boot at 1.625 :frown:
Will test at 5:4 next.
Hi guys~ I'd like to update my P4C800 Dlx's BIOS (I'm still on 1006) and when I went to do that, I noticed Asus' warning to use the latest versions of 'LiveUpdate' to do the flash... So I have 2 questions:
1. Does anyone have a link for the latest version of LiveUpdate to download (I can't seem to find it)?
2. Can EZ Flash still be used to flash the latest BIOS (Asus doesn't mention it in their recent BIOS releases)?
Thanks!
1. Does anyone have a link for the latest version of LiveUpdate to download (I can't seem to find it)?
2. Can EZ Flash still be used to flash the latest BIOS (Asus doesn't mention it in their recent BIOS releases)?
Thanks!
WAAAAAHHH
I can not get a Malaysia 2.4c anywhere.
Xeon, the locals have Costa Rica, and Newegg said I can order the 2.4c but no way will they look for a Malaysia one for me. Fry's does not have any except 2.8C and not sure where they are from.
Iguanamicro does have a 2.4c from Costa Rica...just how bad would that be?
I do not suppose anyone has an M0!
I can not get a Malaysia 2.4c anywhere.
Xeon, the locals have Costa Rica, and Newegg said I can order the 2.4c but no way will they look for a Malaysia one for me. Fry's does not have any except 2.8C and not sure where they are from.
Iguanamicro does have a 2.4c from Costa Rica...just how bad would that be?
I do not suppose anyone has an M0!
Like I said before, I'd take my chances getting a Malaysia from newegg rather than take a Costa Rican that's proven not to be the way to go, so just order from newegg. They've been shipping a lot of them.
IMT:
I tried those settings and I am still getting BSOD's every hour or so now.
Can you or anyone recommend any other tweaks?
Splotto
Well, I suppose if I get one from Newegg and it is not Malay, I am no worse off...unless that on is from China!
Here is what I would set to start with:
Advanced Tab --> Chipset:
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD. . . . . .[Disabled]
DRAM CAS# Latency . . . . . . . .2
DRAM RAS# Precharge . . . . . . 2
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay. . . 3
DRAM Precharge Delay. . . . . . .6
DRAM Burst Length. . . . . . . . . 8
Performance Acceleration Mode. . . . . .[Auto]
Put everything else to defaults except for your Graphics Aperture Size, set this to the max Value of your Video Card (i.e. 128 or 256 etc.)
I would start with these timings, especially if your planning to run 1:1. If you find that you can get all these settings set and run fine then you can start tightening the timings to 2-2-2-6 if it can run at these timings, this memory is actually SPD programmed for 2-4-4-8 but that setting is no good in most machines, so I would start with the 2-2-3-6 as a base and then maximize your FSB as much as you can without error or BSODing. If you find you can't run any of these timings 1:1 then I'd jump down to 5:4 and you should be able to run the tighter timings without a problem or just RMA the RAM and get a good set.
Have you actually used this RAM in another machine or had it tested in such a way that you know it's good? MemTest-86? Windows Memory Diagnostics? I suspect however that even if it checks out ok that due to the speed of your Processor, it's making life difficult. AS I'm sure you already know, most of us who do overclock and have been seeing the results of many different configurations, prefer the 2.4C simply because it's really the most flexible and overclockable of the processors to date. In any case it just means that you have to be more stringent with memory requirements.
Advanced Tab --> JumperFree:
AI Overclock. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . .[Manual]
CPU External Frequency (Mhz). . . [216] (This sets your FSB i.e. you may want to run this at 200, then work your way up.)
DRAM Frequency. . . . . . . . . . . . . . [400] (This sets your divider i.e. 1:1, 5:4 and 3:2)
AGP/PCI Frequency (Mhz). . . . . . . [66.66/33.33] (This is critical to set, so that you lock down the Frequency)
CPU VCore Voltage. . . . . . . . . . . . [1.6]
DDR Reference Voltage. . . . . . . . . [2.85V] (You may want to drop this down if you have problems but most memory like the extra juice)
AGP VDDQ Voltage. . . . . . . . . . . . .[1.6]
Performance Mode. . . . . . . . . . . . .[Auto] (to start with I'd leave this to Auto and once you determine that your stable, then change it to see if it works for you.)
Keep in mind this is just a baseline to start with. Once you know you can boot up and all is well, run Memtest-86 to see how the RAM is doing, then tighten timings and Enable Performance Mode as well as Performance Acceleration Mode (one at a time of course), then run MemTest-86 again. The idea is to keep it stable but at the same time allow yourself as much performance at the stock settings for both the RAM and the cpu since you want to run at stock configuration. You can bump up the 'CPU External Frequency (Mhz)' as well or start out at the desired 216 or start with 200 just so you can make sure that it's not going to be to much and then bump it up. You'll want to slowly raise the FSB (bump it up 5 at a time) before you start tightening your timings on the memory, you'll find it's the best way to get as much out of your machine as possible and also determine it's limits in an orderly fashion.
If this doesn't do the trick then you probably either have really bad sticks of RAM or a bad cpu and should consider RMA stuff. Make sure you have an adequate PSU as well. It's at the heart of the system just as blood is to the body.
Oh and one more thing, Make absolutely sure you have USB Legacy Support disabled in the bios! It's a MemTest-86 and Windows Memory Diagnostic Killer, especially for WMD! In fact I would recommend that anyone who is wanting to test their RAM, disable this feature. Save yourself the false reports and errors by doing so. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!
BTW, here is an article on those sticks of Mushkin PC3500 Level II RAM
Yep, that's right DaveR! I think it's worth the chance as I've seen many people get the Malaysian's from them, including myself.
See ya,
See ya,
Just got done testing the 2.8c China chip
The max fsb at 1:1 is 243 with 1.5875vcore, and at 5:4 it's 244 with 1.6vcore.
It's a SL6WJ, fpo/ batch#: 5350xxxx, pack date: 03/10/04. NewEgg shipped it on 4/1/04 so it's probably what they have on the shelf right now (2.8c).
For the 2.8c Costa chip, I got 245fsb 1:1 at 1.5625vcore, and 249fsb 5:4 at 1.6vcore.
It's a SL6Z5, fpo/batch#: 3348xxxx, pack date: 12/27/03.
The P4P800-SE was delivered today, I'll start testing both chips on it tonight :beer:
The max fsb at 1:1 is 243 with 1.5875vcore, and at 5:4 it's 244 with 1.6vcore.
It's a SL6WJ, fpo/ batch#: 5350xxxx, pack date: 03/10/04. NewEgg shipped it on 4/1/04 so it's probably what they have on the shelf right now (2.8c).
For the 2.8c Costa chip, I got 245fsb 1:1 at 1.5625vcore, and 249fsb 5:4 at 1.6vcore.
It's a SL6Z5, fpo/batch#: 3348xxxx, pack date: 12/27/03.
The P4P800-SE was delivered today, I'll start testing both chips on it tonight :beer:
Hmmmm, a local store has Costa Rica, but as long as Newegg does not send China!
Xeon, ENU had a proc that they sold! They had one...and they are a few blocks from work. They said they were busy and if I called back, they would check the box.
No need! They sold it when I called back!
Xeon, ENU had a proc that they sold! They had one...and they are a few blocks from work. They said they were busy and if I called back, they would check the box.
No need! They sold it when I called back!
I'd double check that you're not grounding out between the case and the back side of the Motherboard. Did you install a third party heatsink to this motherboard? It can be the cause of grounding on the case if it's not installed correctly.
Just a thought.
Fry's will check the sSpec for you, especially if you go early on a Monday. Monday is their slowest day and when they first open they are easier to get to go that little extra for you. That is what I did when I bought my 2.8C SL6Z5 MO stepping that will do 3.7Ghz. It is also a Costa Rica chip just for the record. FPO/Batch 3346
So that, with some Komusa PC4200 may do the trick! From the Intel site it looks like the only M0 is 2.4 or 2.8.
Thank you jhites and computer!!!
I did what you tell me and below are my new specs:
Computer #1, with the Corsair TwinX 1024-3200LL, running at 213FSB, timing are 2-2-3-5-4, Inf, 64uSEC, 1.550V, 2.75V, 1.70V, Performance mode- auto, PAT-enabled. I try 2-2-2-5-4, but it seems impossible, I didn't want to go pass the 1.60Vcore, my score for Sandra is 5167mb/s inf. buffered and
5203 mb/s float buffered. from 3.2Ghz to 3.41Ghz.
if running this rig at 5:4 ratio, 247FSB vs. 1:1 ratio, 213FSB, which is higher in term of DDR? 1:1 ratio is DDR426, but what is 5:4 ratio, please includes the formula too..I get higher processor OC on 5:4, I think was 3.6 or 3.7...but which is better? running at lower DDR and having higher CPU speed? or higher DDR, but lower CPU speed?
For my 2nd rig, I replace the Corsair TwinX 1024-4400PT with Kingston Hyper X PC-4000, I can get up to 250FSB, but i get 4 errors after 10+ hrs. of
Memtest, so I lower it to 240FSB, timing at 2.5-3-4-6-4, Inf, 64uSec, Performance mode- auto, PAT-enabled, 1.550V, 2.85V, 1.70. I try 2.5-3-3-6-4, but no luck, the comp bios get error, manufacture was 3-4-4-8, I guess I got lucky with this pair of rams, perform a lot better than the Corsair 4400PT, and yet it is $50 cheaper too...My score on the Sandra is 5845mb/s inf. buffered and 5865mb/s float buffered.
I went to Fry's and was able to find a Maylasia 2.4C....wow..lucky me..so my new game rig will consist of this processor and the Corsair 4400PT, let see if this thing can really do what it advertises. I might get the Koolance, the water cooling system, but I am afraid the water thing might blow in my face..LOL. Anyone have this Koolance system and can gives me good tips on how to properly install it.
Thank you in advance!!
Oh the name..haha...I graduated from UCBerkely last year and I do know the guy too..LOL. so I just used that nick... He is damn lucky!!!
I did what you tell me and below are my new specs:
Computer #1, with the Corsair TwinX 1024-3200LL, running at 213FSB, timing are 2-2-3-5-4, Inf, 64uSEC, 1.550V, 2.75V, 1.70V, Performance mode- auto, PAT-enabled. I try 2-2-2-5-4, but it seems impossible, I didn't want to go pass the 1.60Vcore, my score for Sandra is 5167mb/s inf. buffered and
5203 mb/s float buffered. from 3.2Ghz to 3.41Ghz.
if running this rig at 5:4 ratio, 247FSB vs. 1:1 ratio, 213FSB, which is higher in term of DDR? 1:1 ratio is DDR426, but what is 5:4 ratio, please includes the formula too..I get higher processor OC on 5:4, I think was 3.6 or 3.7...but which is better? running at lower DDR and having higher CPU speed? or higher DDR, but lower CPU speed?
For my 2nd rig, I replace the Corsair TwinX 1024-4400PT with Kingston Hyper X PC-4000, I can get up to 250FSB, but i get 4 errors after 10+ hrs. of
Memtest, so I lower it to 240FSB, timing at 2.5-3-4-6-4, Inf, 64uSec, Performance mode- auto, PAT-enabled, 1.550V, 2.85V, 1.70. I try 2.5-3-3-6-4, but no luck, the comp bios get error, manufacture was 3-4-4-8, I guess I got lucky with this pair of rams, perform a lot better than the Corsair 4400PT, and yet it is $50 cheaper too...My score on the Sandra is 5845mb/s inf. buffered and 5865mb/s float buffered.
I went to Fry's and was able to find a Maylasia 2.4C....wow..lucky me..so my new game rig will consist of this processor and the Corsair 4400PT, let see if this thing can really do what it advertises. I might get the Koolance, the water cooling system, but I am afraid the water thing might blow in my face..LOL. Anyone have this Koolance system and can gives me good tips on how to properly install it.
Thank you in advance!!
Oh the name..haha...I graduated from UCBerkely last year and I do know the guy too..LOL. so I just used that nick...
He is damn lucky!!!FYI, the last 2.4C CPU I got was from NewEgg, and it was the China one. 'Bout two weeks ago.
For the life of me I never can remember. Just use the newest version of CPUz and it will tell you the DDR speed in the "Memory" tab, then you can remember it. The higher FSB is desirable since that gives you the larger bandwidth and what typical computing is based upon. Your CPU speed would have to be a lot higher at a lower ratio for it to be overall faster though. It depends on what type of computing you do. If you do apps that are CPU intensive and rely solely on CPU speed, and you can get a much higher CPU speed at a split ratio, you'd go with that. If you use apps that rely on memory speed, memory bandwidth, and memory cache, then you'd want 1:1.
Could anyone please tell me if BIOS v16 or 15 puts back the UDMA 6 support on the Native controllers previously removed by an earlier BIOS? The morons removed it in BIOS v14 and made UDMA 5 the max.
Xeon:
THANKS!!! I will get on this tonight. I am hoping it solves my problems.
I did find one funny quirk in the ASUS BIOS Updater. I have reinstalled WinXP several times during my past trials thinking maybe it would help (plus I like starting clean). The latest time I wasn't paying as close attention as I should and it set my data partition to C and installed WinXP onto D (2 partions on a 73 gig Cheetah).
Well, it seems that the ASUS updater won't install now with WinXP on 'D' vs. 'C'. If dies saying it can't load a required DLL.
Thanks again,
Splotto
THANKS!!! I will get on this tonight. I am hoping it solves my problems.
I did find one funny quirk in the ASUS BIOS Updater. I have reinstalled WinXP several times during my past trials thinking maybe it would help (plus I like starting clean). The latest time I wasn't paying as close attention as I should and it set my data partition to C and installed WinXP onto D (2 partions on a 73 gig Cheetah).
Well, it seems that the ASUS updater won't install now with WinXP on 'D' vs. 'C'. If dies saying it can't load a required DLL.
Thanks again,
Splotto
computer~ Thanks for the reply and the link. Actually, I don't have a floppy in my PC and even if I did, I would still prefer doing the flash in Windows. Unfortunately, following the link you provided, I did not find either EZ Flash or LiveUpdate (just AFUDOS)!
It's not a good idea to do it in Windows due to the Windows instability. If there's an error or crash, you're screwed. You always need a floppy; for one, to run the memory diagnostics programs like WMD and Memtest (although they could probably be run from a CDR). Like I said, the flash utility is part of the BIOS file's download. EZflash info is here . Since I've never used LiveUpdate, someone else will have to give input on that. Asus's site is always so screwed up with bad links and "internal server errors" is useless to search. Every time I try to search for something I get "the server is temporarily unavailable". The SOB NEVER is available.
EZflash info is here . Since I've never used LiveUpdate, someone else will have to give input on that. Asus's site is always so screwed up with bad links and "internal server errors" is useless to search. Every time I try to search for something I get "the server is temporarily unavailable". The SOB NEVER is available.TRENDING THREADS
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