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Splotto~ Which BIOS version are you using? When I got my board about a year ago it had v1006 and I was experiencing some really wierd problems (mostly realated to booting-up). All of my problems went away when I upgraded my BIOS. 😉
 
Originally posted by: senior guy
Splotto~ Which BIOS version are you using? When I got my board about a year ago it had v1006 and I was experiencing some really wierd problems (mostly realated to booting-up). All of my problems went away when I upgraded my BIOS. 😉
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SG:

I will check when I get back home but I have tried to keep it up to date.

Splotto
 
Originally posted by: Splotto
Try turning off USB Legacy support in the bios if you haven't already. It's a known cause for getting memory errors and stoppings when running Memtest and some of the other testing tools.

Thanks. I will try that. I know that is set to ON.

What are you running your RAM at in the BIOS? What are your timing, FSB, & Voltages? Before anyone here can really help we would need to know what your BIOS settings are.

I have left all the CPU and RAM setting on either default or auto for now (figuring my screwing around might introduce an error).

Splotto
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Ah Hahh! You'll need to get in there and definately set your timings and FSB manually for those sticks you have. The default values in the bios will make your machine bevave exactly as yours is.

If you don't know what to set just ask here and I or others will give the settings you'll need.
 

Ah Hahh! You'll need to get in there and definately set your timings and FSB manually for those sticks you have. The default values in the bios will make your machine bevave exactly as yours is.

If you don't know what to set just ask here and I or others will give the settings you'll need.

While there was a time when I was a hardware guru, I am now paying the price for not paying enough attention to my one-time hobby. :-(

I would love to hear what the best settings should be. God knows I paid enough for the RAM, I might as well be making it work for me. 🙂

Splotto

 
I just saw some posts in other forums that like the Komusa Adata PC4200!! A 1 Gb Kit of Hyperam is only $259!!

It was even reviewed with the ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and ran 270fsb (DDR540) at 1:1.

Has anyone else used this? It sure looks great and is less costly!

Originally posted by: ItsMillerTime
The OCZ 3700 Gold sticks I'm working with don't like 2.85v for some strange reason😕

Currently, vcore is set to 1.5625v, vdimm is 2.75v, 246fsb and only 3 errors in test 10 after 4 hours.

I think, for the new build this Costa 2.8c and OCZ 3700 will do just fine at 243fsb on the P4P800-SE mobo. I'll try exchanging the new China chip for a Malay and order the 4000 Gold from NewEgg for the P4C:beer:
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Originally posted by: DaveR
I just saw some posts in other forums that like the Komusa Adata PC4200!! A 1 Gb Kit of Hyperam is only $259!!

It was even reviewed with the ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and ran 270fsb (DDR540) at 1:1.

Has anyone else used this? It sure looks great and is less costly!

Originally posted by: ItsMillerTime
The OCZ 3700 Gold sticks I'm working with don't like 2.85v for some strange reason😕

Currently, vcore is set to 1.5625v, vdimm is 2.75v, 246fsb and only 3 errors in test 10 after 4 hours.

I think, for the new build this Costa 2.8c and OCZ 3700 will do just fine at 243fsb on the P4P800-SE mobo. I'll try exchanging the new China chip for a Malay and order the 4000 Gold from NewEgg for the P4C:beer:
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I sure haven't but is it gauranteed for life and do they void the warranty using voltages 2.8 or higher?

OCZ for example is gauranteed for life and they allow you to volt their ram up to 2.8 without voiding the warrantee.
 
Yes it's for life. I will need to look at the komusa site. The OC site review sure liked it!! There is a link from the Komusa site.

EDIT...it is GO!

# Voltage: 2.5v-2.8V

# Lifetime Warranty
 
Ah Hahh! You'll need to get in there and definately set your timings and FSB manually for those sticks you have. The default values in the bios will make your machine bevave exactly as yours is.

If you don't know what to set just ask here and I or others will give the settings you'll need.

Hello:

OK. I disabled the UBS legacy support. I am still getting BSOD's :-(

I ran memtest and at least it made it through the test. I got 7 errors (6 on test 5 and 1 on test 6).

I would really appriciate anyone giving me an idea of the manual memory settings for the RAM. I am hoping that will solve it.

Splotto

 
Disable "configure dram timing by spd" in Chipset submenu of the Advanced menu and set the clock timings to the rated spec of your ram, I'm not sure, is it 2-2-2-5? And leave PAM on auto to start out. Someone else here might have the same ram and can give you more input:beer:
 
computer, thanks for the help.

I am trying to figure out what's going on with my rig 😕

Higher vdimm and vcore is causing more errors in Memtest, but it should be the opposite. I'll try the 5:4 and 3:2 to find the max fsb this Costa can handle :evil:

As far as the new China, NewEgg can't help. I can understand; I'll just have to find a different source for processors
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If the China chip does not OC to my liking, I'll keep rma-ing till I get a decent one 😉
 
Originally posted by: ItsMillerTime
Disable "configure dram timing by spd" in Chipset submenu of the Advanced menu and set the clock timings to the rated spec of your ram, I'm not sure, is it 2-2-2-5? And leave PAM on auto to start out. Someone else here might have the same ram and can give you more input:beer:
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IMT:

Thanks. I am trying those settings right now. I have my fingers crossed.

Splotto
 
Help!!!

Just built my first and can't figure where I went wrong. I took all of the precautions..grounding strap, hardwood floor, cardboard on table, etc.

It has
Asus SX1040II case w/ 400w ps
P4C800-E ASUS Mobo
P4 2.8 800 FSB HT
2 X 256ddr 3200 Crucial memory (origionally used corsair 3200 twinx registered) unbuffered. Had to change.
9600xt asus graphics,
Audiology sound
160 seagate sata hdd
8x plextor dvd
liteon cd-rw/dvd player

Problem:
When I first booted up, got the 3 beeps for ram, nothing on screen.
Changed the ram, no beeps, nothing on screen
Changed the graphics card, no beeps, nothing on screen
Unplugged the thermal controlled case fans (ran through mobo), no beeps, nothing on screen
Pulled the memory, one stick at a time.. 1st one, no beeps, 2nd one out and 3 beeps.
Replaced, nothing ever on screen, no beeps.
Pulled the mobo from the case to be sure not grounding, nothing on screen
Changed out monitors, nothing on screen

Any suggestions?? Seems like I've tried almost everything!!

Thanks in advance,
kentucky dan










 
Originally posted by: Splotto
Originally posted by: ItsMillerTime
Disable "configure dram timing by spd" in Chipset submenu of the Advanced menu and set the clock timings to the rated spec of your ram, I'm not sure, is it 2-2-2-5? And leave PAM on auto to start out. Someone else here might have the same ram and can give you more input:beer:
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IMT:

Thanks. I am trying those settings right now. I have my fingers crossed.

Splotto
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I may be incorrect but I thought that Level II Black only went up to PC3200. The PC3500 is Level I Black and runs with timings of 2-3-3-7 using vdimm up to 2.75 and may run tighter timings using 2.85vdimm depending on your system.

 
just saw some posts in other forums that like the Komusa Adata PC4200!! A 1 Gb Kit of Hyperam is only $259!!

It was even reviewed with the ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and ran 270fsb (DDR540) at 1:1.

Has anyone else used this? It sure looks great and is less costly!
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Dan, DDR540 for PC4200 isn't very good. If 270mhz bus is more than you'll get from your CPU, then it may be OK to get it, IF the Adata is faster than the others tested at DDR540 or lower. What is the link?

Dan, may be a stupid question, but did you plug in the square P4 power connector?
 
Looks like 249fsb is the max for my 2.8c Costa at 5:4 and 1.6vcore:|

I'll try the China chip on my P4C first, then on the P4P800-SE.
And finally, try the Costa on the P4P.

That should be a good comparison of the cpu and chipset/mobo.
 
That's almost 3.5ghz and there's nothing wrong with that. 243mhz was the highest @ 1:1? If so, you're better off with 1:1, and I doubt you'll find a CPU that can do more than 3.5ghz. Remember that the 2.4-3.0ghz P4's will all O'clock about the same and that's 3.4-3.5ghz on average for decent silicon. You could luck out and find one that will do 3.6 or maybe 3.7ghz, but it's not likely.
 
Actually, 246fsb at 1:1 and 1.5625vcore was the best I got out of this chip; it definitely is a keeper.
I just had my hopes up for the pc4000 gold.

Just started testing the China chip in my rig. I only changed the fsb to 233, the rest is the same as it was with the Costa chip. No errors on the first pass (standard).

Should be getting the p4p800-se tomorrow😀
 
You'll get more performance from your PC with that chip and with your current PC3700 memory. Although I would RMA them back to OCZ since they won't work with 2.85v.
 
[/quote]I may be incorrect but I thought that Level II Black only went up to PC3200. The PC3500 is Level I Black and runs with timings of 2-3-3-7 using vdimm up to 2.75 and may run tighter timings using 2.85vdimm depending on your system.[/quote]

JH:

It seems that Mushkin doesn't sell the 3500 Level II Black anymore (as I found when I went to the Mushkin site to look up the timings). However, when you follow through on the Mushkin site to the discussion of various motherboards, their blurb references the 3500 Level II running at 2-2-2-6.

Splotto

 
opps. I posted in the wrong page.

Hello, I am a newbie when it comes to building computer, but I was able to build two computers this past week just by reading from computer forums, below are the specs: I also have a few questions too...

Computer #1, a Gaming Rig

Asus P4C800-E
3.2 C (800mhz), Made in Phillipines
Xaser III Super Tower, V1000D Series, Blue Color exterior,
1 GB of TwinX Corsair DDR-PC4400 (512MB x 2) version 1.1
ATI 9800XT Pro
Vga Silencer
2 x 74GB WD Raptor Raid 0
2 x 250GB of Western Digital for backup (mostly animation)
Antec 550W True Power PSU
Digital Doc 5
Plexor 8x DVD Writer
Air Cool with Zalman 7000Cu-copper sink, 7 case fan, and 2 PSU fans,

The max FSB that I can run for this is around 245-247FSB,
currently I put it at 230FSB, running 1:1 ratio, with the factory 3-4-4-8 setting, been running fine for 48+ hrs. at
1.550Vcore, 2.85Vddimm, 1.70Vagp

My question here is I can't past the 247FSB barrier, I did some research and found one review, here is the site
(www.hightekpc.com/reviews/xms4400/xms44002.html), the reviewer could not set his at 250FSB and his CPU was a 2.6Ghz, I assume the multiplier for a 2.6ghz and 3.2ghz are different, not sure, but mine are at 16x according the CPU-Z. It advertised at 275FSB, I know it will be hard to get there without water cooling system, but if I can get around 260-265, I will be happy to keep it. So my point here is should I keep the pair of RAMs or should I return it and downgrade to the pc4000 or 4200. I know that these rams just been out for a few weeks, so not so much info about it. If anyone having a 3.2Ghz processor that runs 1:1 ratio and can pass 250FSB barrier please let me know, and what type of memory did you used. Also your specs like the voltage and manual setting, PAT enable or auto....don't forget to include your cooling solutions.

Computer #2, for applications, school, and fserve

Asus P4C800-E
2.8 C (800mhz), Made in Phillipines
Xaser III Super Tower, V2000D Series, Silver Aluminum Color exterior,
1 GB of TwinX Corsair DDR-PC3200LL (512MB x 2) version 1.2
ATI 9800 Pro
2 x 120GB S-ATA Seagate Raid 0
2 x 250GB WD for downloading stuffs
2 x 160GB WD for backing up stuffs
Enermax 475W Noisetaker
Sony 8x DVD Writer
Air Cool with Zalman 7000Cu-copper sink, 7 case fan, and 2 PSU fans,

Currently running at 1:1 ratio, 213FSB, Vcore-1.550v, Vdimm-2.75V, Agp-1.70, Performance-Auto
Agp/PCI 66.66/33.33, the best i can do is 2-2-3-5-4, Pat enable, Infinite, 64uSec
running without error on Memtest

I also run it at 5:4 ratio, 245FSB max, 2-2-3-5-4, 1.550v, 2.85v, 1.70v, Pat enable, Infinite, 64uSec, Performance-Auto

the result of the 3D mark, sandra, 3d SE, and Aqua, running 5:4 ratio were better, but comparing these specs to jhites, I'm very embarrased, (

Anyone who has the same rig as me, and has higher FSB running at the same speed, please help, I unplug the power for the 4 Hardrive, 2 x 250GB and 2 x 160GB, same result, so is not the PSU, it provide plenty of power, though I am thinking of upgrading to Enermax 701W noisetaker, maybe because of version 1.2 RAM? not BH-5???

Thank you in advance for your replies.
 
Your system #1 would have a whole lot more performance with slower memory. According to your FSB, that would be some PC4000/DDR500 or some really good PC3700 will do that speed. You're wasting the speed of PC4400 memory with that low of a bus, and you're underclocking it. I wouldn't complain getting 3.6ghz+ from a P4. Your problem is the low bus speed due to getting a CPU that's originally too fast, and has too high of a multiplier. The faster the P4/800mhz is, the higher the multiplier. 2.4C is 12, 2.8 is 14 and yours is 16. 200mhz default bus X multiplier = CPU speed.

On your second PC, the performance is low due to the low FSB of 213mhz which is due to the memory since the CPU will go higher if you under-clock your memory @ the 3:2 or 5:4 setting. Removing cards, periph's or changing a PS isn't going to change that. For that PC, I'd get some OCZ Gold PC3700 and hope it can reach 245mhz bus, or some PC4000 Geil Ultra Platinum. (245mhz bus is 5mhz short of DDR500/PC4000).
 
Your system #1 would have a whole lot more performance with slower memory. According to your FSB, that would be some PC4000/DDR500 or some really good PC3700 will do that speed. You're wasting the speed of PC4400 memory with that low of a bus, and you're underclocking it. I wouldn't complain getting 3.6ghz+ from a P4. Your problem is the low bus speed due to getting a CPU that's originally too fast, and has too high of a multiplier. The faster the P4/800mhz is, the higher the multiplier. 2.4C is 12, 2.8 is 14 and yours is 16. 200mhz default bus X multiplier = CPU speed.

On your second PC, the performance is low due to the low FSB of 213mhz which is due to the memory since the CPU will go higher if you under-clock your memory @ the 3:2 or 5:4 setting. Removing cards, periph's or changing a PS isn't going to change that. For that PC, I'd get some OCZ Gold PC3700 and hope it can reach 245mhz bus, or some PC4000 Geil Ultra Platinum. (245mhz bus is 5mhz short of DDR500/PC4000).
 
williamhung2

You really have the wrong ram in both of your systems for maximum performance, as computer mentioned. You may want to put the PC3200 in System#1 and the PC4400 in System#2, as this would be a little closer match but PC3500/PC3700 really sounds like the ram speed that you need. If you swap the ram then run both using 1:1 and see what your performance gain would be on both systems vs what you are doing at present.
 
Oh my, I just noticed his nickname!! LOL!!!!!! 😀 😀
:music: "SHE BANG!!! SHE BANG!!! SHE MOVE!!! SHE MOVE!!!! :music: ROTFLMAO!!!!
 
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Oh my, I just noticed his nickname!! LOL!!!!!! 😀 😀
:music: "SHE BANG!!! SHE BANG!!! SHE MOVE!!! SHE MOVE!!!! :music: ROTFLMAO!!!!
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That's why I put it in bold type for you. :Q

 
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