Magic Hate Ball
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Dang MicroCenter hasnt played that kind of game in the past... disappointing
But I think they're still offering a $30 discount for buying a chip with a motherboard... so there's that!
Dang MicroCenter hasnt played that kind of game in the past... disappointing
That reminds me, given Ryzen is +52% IPC, what Intel IPC does that actually put it at? Haswell? Skylake? Something else?
No this is the score with turbo core 3.0 (4GHz). There are some review with TC3.0 disabled that have lower ST...So IPC is slower than Broadwell in Cinebench R15.
Core i7 6900K ST score 162cb at 3.7GHz (max ST clock)
Ryzen R7 1800X score 162cb at 4.1GHz XFR (Max ST clock)
That is an excellent example of more than 4 cores being useful for even an 'average' user. I know my i5 2500k (lol I know.) can't really handle streaming SC2 at 1080p very well, and obviously a 7700k would be much better - but streaming is a core heavy task. Seeing it perform better on a Ryzen would definitely be a plus for me.
Below Broadwell, above Haswell if the 1800X is in fact turboing to 4.1 GHz in single thread with XFR versus the i7-6900k that turbos to 4.0 GHz with Turbo Boost 3.0 Max technology. More interestingly AMD seems to be giving the i7-6900k benefit of the doubt. As Anandtech benchmarking shows that the i7-6900k only scores about 153 in Cinebench R15 single thread. If that's the case and the 1800X is in fact doing 162 then its IPC would be better than Broadwell. We just need independent reviews to validate.So IPC is slower than Broadwell in Cinebench R15.
Core i7 6900K ST score 162cb at 3.7GHz (max ST clock)
Ryzen R7 1800X score 162cb at 4.1GHz XFR (Max ST clock)
Can't you use the GPU for streaming, I mean at least the encoding part? i mean would just be like recording using the GPU?
I just checked and my Microcenter doesn't even have any AM4 boards in stock and no mention of a bundle deal.But I think they're still offering a $30 discount for buying a chip with a motherboard... so there's that!
Only 24 PCIe lanes? Plenty for most users, but not quite as good as Intel HEDT.
I am still confused why so-called chipset provides Gen 2 lanes, though.32 Gen. 3 lanes in total.
Well, the first red flag was when we have seen first glimpse of die shot, Zen CCXs took way too little space on that. Then we officially got confirmation that they take less than half the die. If anything, CCXs are actually even denser than uncore part of die.The two CCX's should take 2.8 billion transistors together. Where the hell are the other 2 billion?
Well, the first red flag was when we have seen first glimpse of die shot, Zen CCXs took way too little space on that. Then we officially got confirmation that they take less than half the die. If anything, CCXs are actually even denser than uncore part of die.
....... so-called chipset........
Ok it has almost the same IPC as Broadwell,
Now having a glimpse in to the Reviews and people will compare in Games the Core i7 7700K with 4.5GHz Turbo at $350 against the R7 1700 with 3.7GHz turbo at $329 and most of them will get disappointed (many will call it a big fail, BD 2.0 etc).
You can kinda get the hint that Ryzen will be a bit slower than Intel in games. AMD gave no actual game benches. They showed Ryzen playing a game with 2x RX480 in CF next to a similarly equipped Intel rig and both running @ 4k and she would only say that the game (BF1 I think) is running roughly 77fps on both pcs.
For sure I would think if AMD would overtake Intel in games they would have said things differently.
You can kinda get the hint that Ryzen will be a bit slower than Intel in games.
Its what he have said, but when you will look at the name of the CPU: its 8C/16T 3.6/4.0 chip.Eh, that's not what Linus was seeing when he inspected a BF1 demo comparison (hands on):
https://youtu.be/3rUndzpdo1I?t=8m30s
or here @ 8:30ish
6800K 3.4ghz base 3.6ghz turbo
1700 (NON-X) 3.0ghz base 3.7ghz turbo
Its what he have said, but when you will look at the name of the CPU: its 8C/16T 3.6/4.0 chip.
She did say results would be better with a better cooler, which might mean XFR wasn't actually boosting it in this case (though I doubt it).
This does imply AMD's SMT implementation is superior like rumored.
Below Broadwell, above Haswell if the 1800X is in fact turboing to 4.1 GHz in single thread with XFR versus the i7-6900k that turbos to 4.0 GHz with Turbo Boost 3.0 Max technology. More interestingly AMD seems to be giving the i7-6900k benefit of the doubt. As Anandtech benchmarking shows that the i7-6900k only scores about 153 in Cinebench R15 single thread. If that's the case and the 1800X is in fact doing 162 then its IPC would be better than Broadwell. We just need independent reviews to validate.
But the question is will the next-gen consoles adopt these new Ryzen chips 6/8 cores, thus making quads eventually fall behind when it comes to gaming.
my Ivy Bridge-E at 4.0 ghz is doing 133 in cb. that means ryzen at 4ghz is ~20% better IPC then ivy-bridge E.