Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

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GaiaHunter

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Very good showing from AMD.
It seems clear that SKylake/Kabylake OC will be the faster Gaming Machines.
Although I doubt you will get any significant FPS difference between 6700K/7700K/6800K/6900K/Zen.

I think the i7 6700K/7700K will have the harder time, because any time you want an i7 7700K over the i5 7600K, Zen might actually be better.
 

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When I get home tonight I'll have to clock my 4770K down to 4.0ghz and see what that ST score is like.

I'm just happy to throw AMD some money for keeping my hobby's market alive.
yes, and it seems that ryzen 1800X is ~15% behind 7700K which is not a huge shocker. The extra multicore performance is making up for it when games in the future will utilize more cores and threads.
 
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yes, and it seems that ryzen 1800X is ~15% behind 7700K which is not a huge shocker. The extra multicore performance is making up for it when games in the future will utilize more cores and threads.
I'm hoping to pull what I did with my 875K and keep it for 5 years. I only have this 4770K because a friend sold me the chip + mobo + RAM for $125...
 

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www.chip-architect.com
o_O from Charlie

SemiAccurate is confident that Ryzen’s performance will hold up across a wide range of benchmarks. This last bit may explain why Intel PR sent out a last-minute “call us before you write” email to most of the press, but not SemiAccurate, after hours last night. You could infer that they are suddenly really worried about something.
Wonder if we will see a certain "unexpected" commonality in the reviews....
 

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Right now intel will probably be fine with its quads and single-threaded performance at least from a gaming standpoint. But the question is will the next-gen consoles adopt these new Ryzen chips 6/8 cores, thus making quads eventually fall behind when it comes to gaming.
Anyone remember the Core Quad vs Core Duo days? Wasn't too long ago people argued dual cores were perfectly fine for gaming...

There are already games that benefit from >4 physical cores. As streaming continues to grow in popularity and games are programmed for 8 (or more) cores I see the quad core being relegated to "low budget" status much like the dual cores are today.
 

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I've been out of the loop a bit, but I couldn't find anything definitive in this thread yet on what limitations the 1700 has vs the 1700X other than clock speed and the bundled cooler.
Is the 1700 somehow restricted in overclocking due to the 65W TDP or some other means, or is it also fully unlocked?
 
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I've been out of the loop a bit, but I couldn't find anything definitive in this thread yet on what limitations the 1700 has vs the 1700X other than clock speed and the bundled cooler.
Is the 1700 somehow restricted in overclocking due to the 65W TDP or some other means, or is it also fully unlocked?
You're going to have to wait for reviews for that answer I think.
 

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I've been out of the loop a bit, but I couldn't find anything definitive in this thread yet on what limitations the 1700 has vs the 1700X other than clock speed and the bundled cooler.
Is the 1700 somehow restricted in overclocking due to the 65W TDP or some other means, or is it also fully unlocked?
Also unlocked, no XFR = no auto boosting beyond listed turbo. Probably lower binned.

But who knows, you might get lucky and OC as much as an 1700X or 1800X. It's not impossible, though unlikely if they are binning heavily.

We won't know for sure until we see some reviews with OC results.
 
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I am irrationally excited and may pre-order from Micro Center today. Would really like some details on XFR, as I am torn between 1700 or 1700X right now... :confused2:
There's nothing irrational. The hype is real! Mostly. Hope you didn't have your heart set on clocks over 4.2 GHz or so.

1.853V, lol, this is a suicide run.
I'll say. Sure the smaller processes can handle higher voltages better than 22-32nm could, but anything over 1.55v is pretty sketchy in my opinion.

Motherboards up on Newegg.
I saw the C6H but they had no obvious pre-order? Amazon got my business since they had pre-orders for both.

Is there a way to tell what phases correspond to what?

For instance, the x370 prime pro from asus is 6+4.
Not really. Just understand that AM4 needs separate power planes for CPU, iGPU, NB/iMC, and . . . yeah. Anyway there need to be at least +3 phases tagged on the end.

The "cheap" configs will wind up being like 4+3 phases, the more-robust ones will be 6+4 or 8+4 (or more).

You will not see 8+2 or 12+2 or anything like that.

Newegg is accepting preorders:
Amazon should be up in the next 15-20m.
I couldn't find pre-orders on the C6H. Amazon had them though.

Mine are ready to go! Finally.

Disappointing to see they gimped the Intel systems by only going dual-channel.
We'll have plenty of opportunities to do user-driven benchmarking to make up the difference.
 

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it looks like the first generation of Ryzen won't clock much above 4.2-4.3 Ghz on air/water for 24x7 use. Hopefully Zen+ with IPC increase and process maturity and design improvements can clock beyond 4.5 Ghz. Its a good start to AMD's multi year fight to reenter high end desktop and server market. :)
 
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You can kinda get the hint that Ryzen will be a bit slower than Intel in games. AMD gave no actual game benches. They showed Ryzen playing a game with 2x RX480 in CF next to a similarly equipped Intel rig and both running @ 4k and she would only say that the game (BF1 I think) is running roughly 77fps on both pcs.

For sure I would think if AMD would overtake Intel in games they would have said things differently.

But honestly, Ryzen should have absolutely no problems playing any game out there. But yeah, since AMD may not be as good at gaming than Intel, there will be persons ridiculing AMD.
Sniper 4 actually. And you can see the fps in the upper right in real time.
 
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Greyguy1948

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that store alternate.be
7700k 389 euro
5820K 449 euro
5930K 679 euro
6800K 679 euro
6850K 699 euro
6900K 1179 euro
6950X 1849 euro
Thank you!
We have all the CPU listed in Sweden now. It is like 1euro=10 SEK
Typical how much extra cost they put on the faster Ryzen without cooler.
 

PhonakV30

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Ian put up the whole slide deck in the article, but most importantly:



In a simple table:





Disappointing to see they gimped the Intel systems by only going dual-channel.
What are you saying ? It's called apple to apple , Not apple to Orange.
 
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