Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfNMn7RWgLw

There's the video link. I think that 1600 sort of came in under the radar really. IMO that is the CPU to get for almost everyone. I can't believe how well it does. I really didn't expect this. The gaming performance of Ryzen is not compromised in any meaningful way at all, especially when comparing to Intel's botched X299 chips. $200 bucks for that 1600. I really hope this chip gets used in millions of gaming rigs everywhere and becomes totally famous for being the greatest chip of this new golden era. Mind blowing really. The 1600 basically destroys the entire X299 platform for gamers who refuse to remain stuck in the mud with 4 cores. It delivers the same performance at half the price and also makes coffee lake pretty much not worth waiting for since that will just cost more anyways and be about 10% faster for gaming. CRAZY!

It is exceptional value, and I'd wager that people that got lucky and have been using Sandy Bridge would do well off for years again with the 1600, while getting a serious boost. And for strict budget people (say ones that got Phenom II or FX for cheap prices) can likewise buy into a much newer platform and see a lot of improvement.

But there's potential it could get even better, as the FM4 platform will probably be around for a while, so in 3 years time, there's a good possibility that you could spend just another $200 or so and get significantly better performance. I don't recall if AMD has said how long they plan on using FM4, but I gather that a lot of things are on the CPU (as far as memory support, PCIe lanes, etc)? So would it potentially be possible that AMD could release FM4 compatible CPUs with maybe quad channel memory, or at least more PCI-e lanes and not requiring new boards (assuming of course that your board has the PCI-e connectors and 4 memory slots)? Would the Thunderbolt compatible stuff also be something that could just be on the CPU (so as long as you have, isn't it USB-C port you could get that)?

Another chip that I'd like to see, would be basically a 1600 (with all that it offers) with an integrated GPU. Even a fairly weak one (that is more about offering media features and handling the display output control). That probably wouldn't be until the 7nm stuff, but would be nice if they'd maybe put some of that on the CPU, and then when USB-C becomes standard and we can do video out that way, we could get headless video cards (where we could then get either single slot ones that could still vent outside the case). Especially if mGPU comes back.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfNMn7RWgLw

There's the video link. I think that 1600 sort of came in under the radar really. IMO that is the CPU to get for almost everyone. I can't believe how well it does. I really didn't expect this. The gaming performance of Ryzen is not compromised in any meaningful way at all, especially when comparing to Intel's botched X299 chips. $200 bucks for that 1600. I really hope this chip gets used in millions of gaming rigs everywhere and becomes totally famous for being the greatest chip of this new golden era. Mind blowing really. The 1600 basically destroys the entire X299 platform for gamers who refuse to remain stuck in the mud with 4 cores. It delivers the same performance at half the price and also makes coffee lake pretty much not worth waiting for since that will just cost more anyways and be about 10% faster for gaming. CRAZY!

You can add another +1 to that number today. A friend commissioned a gaming build and had a budget of $1200 or less. I got him just under that with a Ryzen 1600 OC + GTX 1080 combination:
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/amd-ryzen-builders-thread.2499342/page-173#post-38994401
 

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I think that 1600 sort of came in under the radar really. IMO that is the CPU to get for almost everyone. I can't believe how well it does. I really didn't expect this. The gaming performance of Ryzen is not compromised in any meaningful way at all, especially when comparing to Intel's botched X299 chips. $200 bucks for that 1600. I really hope this chip gets used in millions of gaming rigs everywhere and becomes totally famous for being the greatest chip of this new golden era. Mind blowing really. The 1600 basically destroys the entire X299 platform for gamers who refuse to remain stuck in the mud with 4 cores. It delivers the same performance at half the price and also makes coffee lake pretty much not worth waiting for since that will just cost more anyways and be about 10% faster for gaming. CRAZY!
Now you get it! (And why I bought several of these CPUs, one for each of my desks.)
 

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It delivers the same performance at half the price and also makes coffee lake pretty much not worth waiting for

Well hopefully CL will be compatible with the many, upon many people's with 170/270 setups. I really hope Intel doesn't pull the Intel wackiness for those with setups not even months to 1-2 year old or younger rigs. That would be so sad if Intel did that.
 

VirtualLarry

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Well hopefully CL will be compatible with the many, upon many people's with 170/270 setups. I really hope Intel doesn't pull the Intel wackiness for those with setups not even months to 1-2 year old or younger rigs. That would be so sad if Intel did that.
I mean, if you can't drop in CFL into 100- and 200-series boards, and you have to buy another board, why not go Ryzen / AM4 in the process? Intel risks losing a lot of customers over this issue.
 

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I mean, if you can't drop in CFL into 100- and 200-series boards, and you have to buy another board, why not go Ryzen / AM4 in the process? Intel risks losing a lot of customers over this issue.

Yep, that's a real thing that could happen. We'll just have to wait and see. But honestly, with all the current hardware performing so close to each other, it just makes more sense to buy a shiny new 1600 system now for that irresistible price. We've seen how it performs. It delivers a full experience at 1080p with a graphics card so expensive that few will buy such a GPU anyways. If the 1600 can basically saturate a 1080ti at 1080p, then it checks all the marks for a high end gaming CPU, especially at non peasant resolutions. Once you go non peasant resolution, then that 1600 is pretty much as good as it gets. Try running out of CPU at 1440p with high details using an R5 1600. Right, good luck. Although, you could probably run out of CPU power with an intel i5 for the same or more money.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfNMn7RWgLw

There's the video link. I think that 1600 sort of came in under the radar really. IMO that is the CPU to get for almost everyone. I can't believe how well it does. I really didn't expect this. The gaming performance of Ryzen is not compromised in any meaningful way at all, especially when comparing to Intel's botched X299 chips. $200 bucks for that 1600. I really hope this chip gets used in millions of gaming rigs everywhere and becomes totally famous for being the greatest chip of this new golden era. Mind blowing really. The 1600 basically destroys the entire X299 platform for gamers who refuse to remain stuck in the mud with 4 cores. It delivers the same performance at half the price and also makes coffee lake pretty much not worth waiting for since that will just cost more anyways and be about 10% faster for gaming. CRAZY!
 

IndyColtsFan

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfNMn7RWgLw

There's the video link. I think that 1600 sort of came in under the radar really. IMO that is the CPU to get for almost everyone. I can't believe how well it does. I really didn't expect this. The gaming performance of Ryzen is not compromised in any meaningful way at all, especially when comparing to Intel's botched X299 chips. $200 bucks for that 1600. I really hope this chip gets used in millions of gaming rigs everywhere and becomes totally famous for being the greatest chip of this new golden era. Mind blowing really. The 1600 basically destroys the entire X299 platform for gamers who refuse to remain stuck in the mud with 4 cores. It delivers the same performance at half the price and also makes coffee lake pretty much not worth waiting for since that will just cost more anyways and be about 10% faster for gaming. CRAZY!

I built a Ryzen 1500X system in May and am building a 1700X system today (my last component arrived yesterday). I've had a ton of fun with Ryzen and am glad AMD brought some competition back to the game. I'll never say never, but it is highly unlikely at this stage that I'll go the x299 route for my main build (these Ryzen builds are for other purposes). It is unfortunate because I abandoned my BDW-E plan last year due to Intel's ridiculous pricing and hoped SKL-X would be much better, but Ryzen threw a serious wrench in Intel's plans. I'm not a fanboy and buy whichever brand meets my needs at the price I want to pay; with that being said, Intel's obvious desperation and half-baked responses make me laugh HARD.

At this stage, it likely boils down to Threadripper vs Coffee Lake for me and it will be an interesting battle for sure. I can't see any 12C+ Intel touching Threadripper at this stage without HUGE price cuts from Intel and with the 7920 coming with a 2.9 Ghz base clock, I won't be surprised if the 1920 beats it in more tests than it loses. TR intrigues me and since at resolutions above 1080p it will probably give up less than 10% of performance to Coffee Lake, it will be hard to jump on The CFL bandwagon.
 

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I'm a little surprised the 1700 slowed down that much on DotA2 while streaming. What was up with that?
 

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I'm a little surprised the 1700 slowed down that much on DotA2 while streaming. What was up with that?
We're missing some data, the 1700 was operating at stock which I reckon also enforces the stock TDP. I wuld have liked to have seen 1700X instead, or at least 1700 with a light oc.
 

moonbogg

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