Like you said, they read it right out of the rulebook. The umps ruled him out on interference not malicious in terms of causing harm as you have alluded. Please get your mind set straight. No matter what you say you know that you have no proof or any plausible argument that Arod's intention was to cause harm. If your going to go on repeating everything a sports analysts says thats fine too, but I'm sure the world can use one less puppet.
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Like you said, they read it right out of the rulebook. The umps ruled him out on interference not malicious in terms of causing harm as you have alluded. Please get your mind set straight. No matter what you say you know that you have no proof or any plausible argument that Arod's intention was to cause harm. If your going to go on repeating everything a sports analysts says thats fine too, but I'm sure the world can use one less puppet.
Hard slides trying to break up a double play has been and always will be part of baseball. As a second baseman, when you turn to relay to first, you know and expect that the baserunner is gonna come bearing down on you to try and disrupt the play. It's part of the game. I'm a Red Sox fan and I don't think there was anythign malicious with ARod, he tried to score Jeter and almost got away with it. Why can't we just agree that it was 1) a great game, 2) Schilling was a monster basically unhittable out there on one ankle. and 3) thank god we have another instanst classic coming up tomorrow. 🙂
I agree with all your points. Kudos to Schilling for a good game. Looking foward to Game 7. But people calling Arod out and asking for fines/suspensions is absolutely ludicrious. It upsets me that people like Sp33Demon, who clearly never has played the game himself, would rather impose strict rules than letting the players play. He is a self-proclaimed Red Sox fan, but the Red Sox fans I know would rather their players play with their hearts, as Arod did, and not go on worry about fines for swatting a ball.
SP33Demon
Lifer
I've played baseball since age 10 to varsity high school ball, you don't know anything about me so it shows how classless you are to make baseless assumptions about somebody.
Yes Schilling pitched a helluva game on blood, sweat, and tears. He earned his weight in gold tonight!
Hopefully classy Torre will set that punk Arod straight: "That's not how you play the game, son. I don't expect anymore stuff like that."
Yes anyone can say that they have played baseball since whatever age. I'm sure you even did play. But when you played were you worried about being thrown off the team for trying harder and wanting to win. You still never responded to my statement: "He [meaning you] is a self-proclaimed Red Sox fan, but the Red Sox fans I know would rather their players play with their hearts, as Arod did, and not go on worry about fines for swatting a ball."
lordtyranus
Banned
WOW speed. Could you be any more retarded?
You are an embarassment to baseball fans everywhere. Your argument is like saying anyone who gets a face mask in football or personal foul in basketball should be fined.
I was absolutely furious at the initial ruling (arod on 2nd, jeter scores), but the umps corrected it. It should end there.
You are an embarassment to baseball fans everywhere. Your argument is like saying anyone who gets a face mask in football or personal foul in basketball should be fined.
I was absolutely furious at the initial ruling (arod on 2nd, jeter scores), but the umps corrected it. It should end there.
SP33Demon
Lifer
When I played, batted over .500 as a leadoff hitter and went undefeated (22-0) as the first JV team to go undefeated (look it up, Lenape High in Medford NJ 1995), I never knocked the ball or glove off of anyone's hand. I have too much respect for the game and players to do something as classless and unsportsmanlike as that. Never, in my 9 or so years playing the game in organized leagues, have I seen anything of the sort happen. If anyone had done that on my team, you would not have had any of our respect. If you're good (like we were), you don't need to resort to cheating to win.
lordtyranus
Banned
:beer: In anycase, the Yankees are finished, and I will be having lots of :beer: this time tomorrow.
lordtyranus
Banned
And they aren't. The yankees took advantage of an injured pitcher in game 1, and had stellar performances from a good pitcher/stacked offense in games 2-3. Notice how they've come up flat against a tired Foulke the past 3 days. The Yankee teams without stacked stars that peaked at playoff times are clutch. The Yankee teams that beat the ridiculous Indians offense year after year were clutch.
I think your comparison of Thome to Bonds and Ruth was well documented as well.
And Rolen > Thome. A 3b who can hit > A 1b who can hit, sry.
Congratulations on destroying pitchers in Medford NJ, I'm sure mom was very proud. Being that you were on such an incredible team, I'm sure that you were never in a game of this magnitude, this close of a game so you would have no idea what it means to play in such a tight game. Comparing yourself to professional baseball players is the stupidest thing in the world. First off, its you. Second, you don't deal with millions of fans who want to win as bad as you do. Your knowledge and opinion has always been in question, now there is no question about your lack of either. Grab another beer, your going to need it.
Cabrera put a classic hockey hip-check into Cairo, doubt he intended to hurt him but to give him something to think about. If it impacted the play or caused any injury Cabrera should have been punished severely. Even before today's game A-H... I mean A-Rod threw his arm out to trip a Sox player at 2nd after he got rid of the ball. Earlier in the season he tried the same thing to Mueller covering 2nd, raising tensions even more in those heated exchanges. IMO he's crossed the line from playing hard to playing cheap.
The umpires were horrible, period. I've never seen such horrible ball-strike calls in the playoffs. MLB needs to better define and inform about how situations like the Bronson-Arod play should be handled. If Cornrows throws his shoulder and glove at A-Rod he may be the one in trouble. The umpires got it right in the end but I don't trust this crew with any calls. How do you miss a HR hitting a fan with a black coat, then watch the LF'er stop playing?
I've loved Bellhorn since week 1 of the season. His ability to draw high pitch counts, walk, not hit into dp's, and get timely hits assured his starting spot postseason. Not bad for a guy making near league minimum. How that HR ball drifted over the wall is a mystery, Manny/Vlad make those type of HR's. Even in postgame he admitted he didn't think it had the power. Ortiz said before the game that he needed help, (he went 0-4 today to the surprise of many) and he got it from the biggest team player in Boston.
One more game to inflame ulcers everywhere.
EDIT: No fine or suspension for A-Rod (or Cabrera) is needed or appropriate. He will be judged on his actions by umps, players, managers, owners, and fans. If one commits "cheap" acts they will be labeled the rest of their career. Such a player can't sneeze hard or they might lose the umpire's call.
The umpires were horrible, period. I've never seen such horrible ball-strike calls in the playoffs. MLB needs to better define and inform about how situations like the Bronson-Arod play should be handled. If Cornrows throws his shoulder and glove at A-Rod he may be the one in trouble. The umpires got it right in the end but I don't trust this crew with any calls. How do you miss a HR hitting a fan with a black coat, then watch the LF'er stop playing?
I've loved Bellhorn since week 1 of the season. His ability to draw high pitch counts, walk, not hit into dp's, and get timely hits assured his starting spot postseason. Not bad for a guy making near league minimum. How that HR ball drifted over the wall is a mystery, Manny/Vlad make those type of HR's. Even in postgame he admitted he didn't think it had the power. Ortiz said before the game that he needed help, (he went 0-4 today to the surprise of many) and he got it from the biggest team player in Boston.
One more game to inflame ulcers everywhere.
EDIT: No fine or suspension for A-Rod (or Cabrera) is needed or appropriate. He will be judged on his actions by umps, players, managers, owners, and fans. If one commits "cheap" acts they will be labeled the rest of their career. Such a player can't sneeze hard or they might lose the umpire's call.
Red Dawn
Elite Member
Yes AROD ran to his right to avoid the tag and was out of the baseline, Arroyo just pursued him as he ran right, in order to apply the tag. Watch the play again, if anything ARod should have been called out for running out of the baseline.
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Arroyo should be fined for his hairdo. Isn't there some rule in Baseball that makes it illigal to do an impersonation of Bo Derek on the Mound?
Well put, I can't believe that guy still speaks, what a downer in an otherwise decent thread. Lenape High School, wow. Beat up on Shawnee? awesome dude.
Everyone is overreacting. He didn't hit him in the face or anything, if he wanted to hurt them, then just run right over those two weaklings since they were in the baseline.
Oh my goodness, I just reread that and you said JV, as in NOT varsity. WOW that is hideous.
SP33Demon
Lifer
Actually, I pitched as a closer for Varsity, as well as a starter for JV. I listed the JV year because that was the most fun I've ever had playing the game, and yes pounding rivals like Shawnee/Cherokee/Holy Cross/Bishop Eustace was insanely fun, to top off the first undefeated team ever at 22-0. I batted .522 as leadoff, and was never thrown out stealing EVER (also ran Varsity track as a sprinter for 2 years). I doubt any of you have ever played any organized baseball outside of Little League.
It was Arroyo's right to be in the vicinity of the baseline since he was making the tag. Mientkavicz was in ARod's way and it would have been legal to bowl him over.
Yankees/Red Sox tickets: $100
David Ortiz Jersey: $125
Hot dog at Yankee stadium: $6
Watching ARod pwn himself and his team on National TV: PRICELESS.
SaltBoy
Diamond Member
Geez, SP33Demon, I was rooting for the Red Sox to win. Now that I've just read this thread, I almost want the Yankees to win just to get you to shut up.
ARod did nothing to warrant an ejection, suspension, or anything like that. He got out, Jeter was sent back to first. The umps did the right thing -- END OF STORY.
Oh, and go 'Stros!
ARod did nothing to warrant an ejection, suspension, or anything like that. He got out, Jeter was sent back to first. The umps did the right thing -- END OF STORY.
Oh, and go 'Stros!
SP33Demon
Lifer
No sht Sherlock, and ARod cannot do anything outside of running. Which includes hitting another player's glove in a "malicious and unsportsmanlike" manner. Just run to first, accept the tag like a man, be happy that you moved the runner to scoring position, and shut your mouth. It's what a real man like Matsui would have done, not hurt his team by not only accepting the out, but stranding the runner on first and making a fool of himself on national TV.
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