Obozo spat in most of every American's face

[theeedude]

It's a stupid image that only Republican idiots would fall for, because they don't know history of anything.
Comparing Crusades, which are just one battlefield to all of Muslim conquests over the centuries is completely asinine.

 

[Darwin333]

Number of people killed in crusades: 3,000,000
http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm#Crusades

people killed in Spanish inquisition:
"No one knows exactly how many people perished because of the Inquisition, but it is thought to be between 3,000 and 5,000 people during the 350 years of its existence"

http://www.strangenotions.com/spanish-inquisition/
pesky facts.

oy,too much clickbait..will fix.
fixed.
Number of people killed in the name of Allah:

"Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa."
"This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad."
http://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/

Let's do a little math;You are 90x more likely to be killed by a Muslim than a Christian.
They have killed 90x more people than Christians.

Oooh, I really like math too! Here is some more:

In the United States you are more likely to be killed by lightning then by a terrorist. With that mathematical fact, why do we give such a fuck?

It's not like we are known for our caring about other people killing other people in countries we don't give a shit about. If we did we would have had most of our military on the continent of Africa for quite a while.

 

[DrDoug]

*sniffles*

How dare you compare my savage fairy tale with those brown people's savage fairy tale!

This entire Christian butt hurt issue is no different than believers in Leprechauns being insulted by a comparison to believers of Unicorns.

There's nothing unusual about the response to what Obama said. The problem with history is that some people don't want to be reminded about the stuff that they think reflects poorly on them.

As always, it's all about "me".

 

[Darwin333]

Except christians make up a huge constituent, which is why this was crazy to do politically.

What election is he going to be running in?

 

[IronWing]

"This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad."
http://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/
.

The Muslims killed more people than existed at the time of the conquests? Those crafty sons of bitches.

 

[shira]

Obama sounds just like all our resident idiot flaming libs, they cant call a spade a spade.

Radical Islam is currently a massive terrorist organization. Liberals can say it has nothing to do with religion, but until the terrorists stop using religion to further their cause, all the libs are doing it wasting oxygen.

Ah, yes, what Obama clearly said at the prayer breakfast was that what ISIL is doing has nothing to do with what they profess is justified by their religion. Oh, wait:

From a school in Pakistan to the streets of Paris, we have seen violence and terror perpetrated by those who profess to stand up for faith, their faith, profess to stand up for Islam but, in fact, are betraying it.

We see ISIL, a brutal, vicious death cult that, in the name of religion, carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism — terrorizing religious minorities, like the Yazidis, subjecting women to rape as a weapon of war, and claiming the mantle of religious authority for such actions. We see sectarian war in Syria, the murder of Muslims and Christians in Nigeria, religious war in the Central African Republic, a rising tide of anti-Semitism and hate crimes in Europe, so often perpetrated in the name of religion.

 

[MongGrel]

Hadn't even looked at this thread all day.

Yep I was right, shouldn't have bothered.

Later.

 

[Subyman]

What election is he going to be running in?

Democrats will be running next election last time I checked.

 

[fskimospy]

Democrats will be running next election last time I checked.

Nobody will care about something Obama said in January, 2015 when deciding whether or not to vote for Hillary in November, 2016.

 

[Newell Steamer]

This is cute.

When Christianity is criticized over the crusades, said criticism is usually always dismissed.

Now that Obama said something bad against the crusades, we get outrage, instead of the usual "Yeah, that was hundreds of years ago,.. who cares?"

Also, - here are Obama's exact words over ISIL;

“From a school in Pakistan to the streets of Paris, we have seen violence and terror perpetrated by those who profess to stand up for faith, their faith, profess to stand up for Islam but, in fact, are betraying it.

“We see ISIL, a brutal, vicious death cult that, in the name of religion, carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism — terrorizing religious minorities, like the Yazidis, subjecting women to rape as a weapon of war, and claiming the mantle of religious authority for such actions. We see sectarian war in Syria, the murder of Muslims and Christians in Nigeria, religious war in the Central African Republic, a rising tide of anti-Semitism and hate crimes in Europe, so often perpetrated in the name of religion.”

About 124 words over Islamic extremism (that is happening NOW), v. a 52 word parallel on a centuries old act of Christian extremism.

Had Obama asked we ignore ISIL because of the Crusades. Or, he demanded we compensate Muslims over the Crusade, I can certainly understand and support the outrage.

But, no such thing has happened.

Also, let us be clear; the Crusades aren't something we as Christian celebrate,.. so,.. again,.. there is no justification for this.

Nonetheless, this reaction was great - it adds to the long list of examples where Obama's critics have no real or legit valid claim to hate on him. They aren't calling things as they see them, they aren't being realists. They are being bigoted boneheads,.. and, of course, I am the biggest bigot since I bring it up. Yes, Righthadists, we are well aware of your next spin and attempt to 'turn things on their head', no point in calling reverse-racism, save your post.

 

[Subyman]

Nobody will care about something Obama said in January, 2015 when deciding whether or not to vote for Hillary in November, 2016.

Bush.

 

[MongGrel]

The weirdness is high today.

 

[1prophet]

As usual the fools fall for the old christian vs Muslim bullshit, the truth is Islams problem is with secularism, Freedom of speech, women's rights, separation of religion from state, gay rights, etc.

None of which can happen under any type of theocratic state especially not ISIS,

And what is truly sad is how these same so called liberals, apologists, have no trouble calling out Christians for their beliefs on gay marriage, women's right to choose, creationism, christian symbols on public land, etc.,

become the biggest supporters of a similar religion that is misogynistic, homophobic, intolerant of free speech and criticism, and reluctant to move into the modern world where religion should be separate from state and be ones personal belief not forced on others.

If you apologists truly cared about Muslims and not just use Islam as a way to score points in your mind against the Christians you hate, you would hold it to the same secular standards you hold christian and other religions to and not make any sort of excuses or propaganda pieces like Obama.

 

[brycejones]

I'm Christian, Catholic at that and I'm not sure why I should be insulted. His message is to those people who try to paint all Muslims with the same brush as ISIS and those who kill in the name of Muslims. There was a time where Christians, did equally heinous things in the name of Christianity. That didn't and doesn't speak for all Christianity why should what ISIS does speak for all Muslims.

If you get insulted by things like this you probably shouldn't read any history.

This....

Oh and posting in yet another over the top John Conner thread. Guess the meds wore off today.

 

[nickqt]

As usual the fools fall for the old christian vs Muslim bullshit, the truth is Islams problem is with secularism, Freedom of speech, women's rights, separation of religion from state, gay rights, etc.

None of which can happen under any type of theocratic state especially not ISIS,

And what is truly sad is how these same so called liberals, apologists, have no trouble calling out Christians for their beliefs on gay marriage, women's right to choose, creationism, christian symbols on public land, etc.,

become the biggest supporters of a similar religion that is misogynistic, homophobic, intolerant of free speech and criticism, and reluctant to move into the modern world where religion should be separate from state and be ones personal belief not forced on others.

If you apologists truly cared about Muslims and not just use Islam as a way to score points in your mind against the Christians you hate, you would hold it to the same secular standards you hold christian and other religions to and not make any sort of excuses or propaganda pieces like Obama.

Yes, us libruuul atheists are always attacking Christianity by saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. Because we oh so hate Christianity so, so much.

Happy Holidays!

 

[DrDoug]

This....

Oh and posting in yet another over the top John Conner thread. Guess the meds wore off today.

I learned a long time ago that it doesn't matter what Obama says, wingnuts will try to generate outrage over it. I thought some liberals were over the top with Bush but the wingers of today make them look like pikers.

Obama: "It's a beautiful day today."

Wingnuts: "Obozo is a liar, it's raining/cold/snowing/cloudy out!"

Obama could come out with a cheap cure for cancer and they would claim he is trying to save poor people so there will be more Democratic voters. That and more welfare recipients!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I learned a long time ago that it doesn't matter what Obama says, wingnuts will try to generate outrage over it. I thought some liberals were over the top with Bush but the wingers of today make them look like pikers.

Obama: "It's a beautiful day today."

Wingnuts: "Obozo is a liar, it's raining/cold/snowing/cloudy out!"

Obama could come out with a cheap cure for cancer and they would claim he is trying to save poor people so there will be more Democratic voters. That and more welfare recipients!

As I said before I really am not bothered by Obama, however there is a curious propensity on the part of some to make completely irrelevant linkages. Selecting the Crusades as being equivalent to the world in which ISIS exists is reaching. I made a reference to Narmer, who was most likely the individual responsible for a united Egypt, and there would have been bloodshed. Much of Western world developed from war waged by the Egyptians, the Persians, the Romans and others. Since that is our heritage we need to remember to not be critical of Eastern societies- the purges of Mao, the ruthlessness of Kim. Well I can be critical and I'm not buying a 5000 year old war of unification as equivalence, nor do I ISIS and the Crusades.

Just so you know I don't hold the Muslim world as a whole responsible for ISIS, and you'll search all day and find I've never called for punishing Muslims. ISIS is a group of very bad people doing very bad things today and that is sufficient for me to not have to create irrelevant and diverting false equivalencies.

 

[fskimospy]

Bush.

Somehow I doubt that the largest terrorist attack in US history, two ruinous wars, and a worldwide economic catastrophe equals saying something mean about Christians.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Somehow I doubt that the largest terrorist attack in US history, two ruinous wars, and a worldwide economic catastrophe equals saying something mean about Christians.

It has nothing to do with it at all. If I hold anything against Obama and the Democrats it is their willful sweeping under the rug of what Bush did. That I do not forgive.

 

[DrDoug]

As I said before I really am not bothered by Obama, however there is a curious propensity on the part of some to make completely irrelevant linkages. Selecting the Crusades as being equivalent to the world in which ISIS exists is reaching. I made a reference to Narmer, who was most likely the individual responsible for a united Egypt, and there would have been bloodshed. Much of Western world developed from war waged by the Egyptians, the Persians, the Romans and others. Since that is our heritage we need to remember to not be critical of Eastern societies- the purges of Mao, the ruthlessness of Kim. Well I can be critical and I'm not buying a 5000 year old war of unification as equivalence, nor do I ISIS and the Crusades.

Just so you know I don't hold the Muslim world as a whole responsible for ISIS, and you'll search all day and find I've never called for punishing Muslims. ISIS is a group of very bad people doing very bad things today and that is sufficient for me to not have to create irrelevant and diverting false equivalencies.

Good on you. Too many Americans are of the opinion that if there were good muslims then they would stop the bad muslims from doing evil stuff. The problem with that argument is how arguing with armed religious nuts is suicidal when there is no strong government or law enforcement backing them up. If they try to stop them they kill them and probably their whole family. ISIS is a group of assholes who are wrapping themselves in religion to glorify themselves and justify their actions.

They are the assholes, not Islam.

 

[rudder]

How did those slaves and descendents remain slaves?

"Christianity ran the wholesale slave trade in North America."...

Next up: People continue with the 'my religion is not retarded because yours is too'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_for_Effecting_the_Abolition_of_the_Slave_Trade

Christians started the movement to end the slave trade. Now what? Don't know, it happened way before I was born.

obama is still a jack ass of a president for being an ISIS apologist.

 

[Subyman]

Somehow I doubt that the largest terrorist attack in US history, two ruinous wars, and a worldwide economic catastrophe equals saying something mean about Christians.

Ah, but you underestimate the 24hr news cycle. They will repeat that crap over and over. Then bring up benghazi. It was a dumb thing to say politically, there is no denying that.

 

[michal1980]

Ah, yes, what Obama clearly said at the prayer breakfast was that what ISIL is doing has nothing to do with what they profess is justified by their religion. Oh, wait:

Radical Islam is not limited to ISIL. Which we all know thanks to Obama is just a JV team.


When the left wakes up to the fact that there are millions if not tens/hundreds of millions of radical Muslims, then maybe we can solve the problem. Until then you are just sticking your head in the sand ignoring the issue hoping it will go away.

 

[ivwshane]

Ah, but you underestimate the 24hr news cycle. They will repeat that crap over and over. Then bring up benghazi. It was a dumb thing to say politically, there is no denying that.

If you think it was a dumb thing to say politically then you can agree that pretty much everything said in today's political climate is a pretty dumb thing to say politically.



I personally think that if the only people who are offended by comments made by politicians are the fringe of any ideology (as in the case here), then it doesn't count as politically stupid.

 

[Matt1970]

It's a pretty simple message. Any one with an education above 1st grade should be able to tell you as he said it pretty directly. We don't blame all of Christianity for the violent historical or current acts of some Christians, we can't attack an entire religion for the acts of the monsters that claim to represent it. The American far right is trying to start some Christianity vs Islam religious war, and it takes level-headed individuals like our President to keep that from happening. The only way to stop the radical groups in Islam is to get the moderate members of that religion to help. Alienating them by blaming all of Islam for the acts of groups like ISIL or Boko Haram isn't just stupid, it's dangerous.

I don't understand how the far right is so badly misunderstanding the President's message. Well, I get the why, not the how. The why is because you've gotta be majorly mentally disabled to be a conservative, the how to understand would require me to beat my head with a claw hammer until I suffered major brain damage.

Because what you just said there and what the President said differ quite a bit. He kept going on and on about people killing in the name of faith, then in the name of Christ. The again I probably should get that advanced education like you have to hear the shit people aren't saying.