Obama's Safe Schools Czar Promoting Porn And Extreme Sex In The Classroom (NSFW)

[Zebo]

As much as I bag on Muslims that might be just what we need to off some of these sickos.

 

[Greenman]

This thread has nothing to do with NAMBLA, it was an attempt to smear a group by association by a not-too-smart guy.

I'm aware of the topic of discussion. Tragically, even the mention of NAMBLA makes me nuts.

I might also note that the "not to smart" designation is submitted as a fact not in evidence.

 

[umbrella39]

Beyond my personal outrage,

Ah, Faux outrage??

Nah, he just played his Riprorin card too soon.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm aware of the topic of discussion. Tragically, even the mention of NAMBLA makes me nuts.

Man, don't go to their website and read the testimonials then. I find it generates a weird mix of rage, confusion, pity, and sadness.

 

[Acanthus]

I find abstinence-only education more offensive.

*fists you*

 

[fskimospy]

I find abstinence-only education more offensive.

*fists you*

I think that they are two different things. It seems that those who are angered by this are offended in a community standards way (or something like that). Abstinence only education is more of an offense to the intelligence of everyone involved.

 

[Acanthus]

There is a difference between an "honest answer" and demonstrating the "proper" technique for fisting someone's anus. I don't know what kind of sex education you were taught, but it should not emcompass sexual technique other than basic biology of how the plumbing works, how to protect yourself from falling victim to sexual disease, unwanted pregnancy, and sexual predators.

Wrongsky.

If you aren't upfront in a middle/high school setting with this stuff... and relaxed and able to giggle along with the kids when they are smartasses, you lose them in seconds.

All he was doing was putting the kid who asked a silly question in his place.

You'd have to be simply retarded to think otherwise. The guy was doing his job, and a good one at that. Keeping the damn kids attention when talking about safe sex, preventing pregnancy, and disease.

It has been proven that abstinence only education doesn't work. At all.

 

[Greenman]

Man, don't go to their website and read the testimonials then. I find it generates a weird mix of rage, confusion, pity, and sadness.

I can't look at their site, I'd go barking mad. There are some lines that simply aren't crossed, the sick fucks in nambla go beyond simple mental illness into a realm that normal men can't conceive of.

 

[Corn]

Really? hmmm, interesting.

The "honest answer" would go something along the lines of, "well, this class is not about demonstrating bizarre sexual techniques. These types of questions degrade the purpose of this class. If you are really interested in these questions, I would recommend you discuss them with your parents or other trustworthy confidants."

What exactly do you think school is for, anyway? Demonstrating the correct technique for fisting or proper etiquette when the happy moment ends in your mouth is not something I expect to be taught to children in school.

 

[Corn]

Wrongsky.
It has been proven that abstinence only education doesn't work. At all.

I advocate no such thing.

Those discussions will get you fired from your job, but its OK to have them in school with children? Yeah, I think not.

 

[fskimospy]

I advocate no such thing.

Those discussions will get you fired from your job, but its OK to have them in school with children. Yeah, I think not.

They wouldn't get you fired from your job if you were a sex ed instructor.

 

[sandorski]

The "honest answer" would go something along the lines of, "well, this class is not about demonstrating bizarre sexual techniques. These types of questions degrade the purpose of this class. If you are really interested in these questions, I would recommend you discuss them with your parents or other trustworthy confidants."

What exactly do you think school is for, anyway? Demonstrating the correct technique for fisting or proper etiquette when the happy moment ends in your mouth is not something I expect to be taught to children in school.

If they're asking for the info, it may not be as "bizarre" as you think. Better they know the Truth, then find it out the hard way after someone gets hurt.

 

[Corn]

They wouldn't get you fired from your job if you were a sex ed instructor.

Bullshit. Those discussions create a hostile environment for children who are forced to endure them as much as any co-worker who would happen to hear them in passing. Sure, maybe the 1 or 2 morons who want to push the bounds of good taste in class and work won't care, but the vast majority would take great offense at the topic. That you don't understand this only goes to show that you are one of the 1-2 morons who just doesn't get it.

 

[sandorski]

Bullshit. Those discussions create a hostile environment for children who are forced to endure them as much as any co-worker who would happen to hear them in passing. Sure, maybe the 1 or 2 morons who want to push the bounds of good taste in class and work won't care, but the vast majority would take great offense at the topic. That you don't understand this only goes to show that you are one of the 1-2 morons who just doesn't get it.

lolFail. Shouldn't you be guarding the Still or something/

 

[JSFLY]

Who cares, kids today have seen all that crap on the internet anyways (fisting, swallowing, etc etc). This is nothing new to them at all.

Kids had questions and the sex ed teacher had answers, simple as that.

 

[Blackjack200]

lol @ PJabber and the proudly sexually repressed.

Perhaps this would be a more appropriate s*x education?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ivsb79-h90&feature=related

 

[seemingly random]

Wrong.

That was another "teacher" asking that sick fuck "what is fisting", not a student. Of course I don't expect you to be honest in your appraisal of this situation. Even if it was a student that asked the question, which it was not, the appropriate answer was not a demonstration of proper technique. Do you support "teachers" demonstrating fisting to children?

You're treading on sick fuck territory too if you see no problem with this.

So, it's not ok to talk about fisting but it's ok to talk about mauling and killing people and showing disfigured and burnt corpses on national television. You have an odd sense of morality. Of course, both are disgusting, but why you protest only one of them is curious.

In fact, your outrage seems suspicious. Thou doth protest too much, methinks.

 

[Born2bwire]

Face it boys, all your kids are being raised as sexual deviants. Hah!

 

[sandorski]

lol @ PJabber and the proudly sexually repressed.

Perhaps this would be a more appropriate s*x education?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ivsb79-h90&feature=related

hilarious

 

[fskimospy]

Bullshit. Those discussions create a hostile environment for children who are forced to endure them as much as any co-worker who would happen to hear them in passing. Sure, maybe the 1 or 2 morons who want to push the bounds of good taste in class and work won't care, but the vast majority would take great offense at the topic. That you don't understand this only goes to show that you are one of the 1-2 morons who just doesn't get it.

Yeah man totally, why the hell are they teaching kids about sex in sex ed class? Responding to a specific question with a real answer? What the hell were they thinking? And all this in a class that the kids participate in on a voluntary basis. (in every case that I am aware of)

FOR SHAME.

 

[PJABBER]

I wonder if any of the folks posting here have any kids of their own and what age and sex they are? Also, if the commentary made is actually in some way a response to personal experiences with child molestation.

You don't have to post this information, it is too much information really, but I wonder how many here have had their views shaped by early exposure to emotional and/or physical abuse themselves. And amongst all of the snide remarks, why so few have the interests of the kids at heart.

While kids are certainly exposed to information on sex pretty early on, there is quite a difference between basic biological information and recognition/reporting of child molestation attempts and the stuff that is being pushed here.

Note there is no strong validation of positive emotion in the quoted books or a tie-in with romantic love. That is a pretty strong and unwanted jump for kids that might be in protective families where respect of self, love of family, of God, of whatever, is part of daily life.

What we see here, and in most of the posts, is all pretty much sex for sex, a very adult perspective and not one that is expected in kids that have not had some form of emotional or physical abuse in their lives already.

 

[Acanthus]

I wonder if any of the folks posting here have any kids of their own and what age and sex they are? Also, if the commentary made is actually in some way a response to personal experiences with child molestation.

You don't have to post this information, it is too much information really, but I wonder how many here have had their views shaped by early exposure to emotional and/or physical abuse themselves. And amongst all of the snide remarks, why so few have the interests of the kids at heart.

While kids are certainly exposed to information on sex pretty early on, there is quite a difference between basic biological information and recognition/reporting of child molestation attempts and the stuff that is being pushed here.

Note there is no strong validation of positive emotion in the quoted books or a tie-in with romantic love. That is a pretty strong and unwanted jump for kids that might be in protective families where respect of self, love of family, of God, of whatever, is part of daily life.

What we see here, and in most of the posts, is all pretty much sex for sex, a very adult perspective and not one that is expected in kids that have not had some form of emotional or physical abuse in their lives already.

IIRC you have the opportunity to opt-out of sex ed programs; if you want your kids to be the ones left out of conversations in the future and made fun of.

 

[sandorski]

I wonder if any of the folks posting here have any kids of their own and what age and sex they are? Also, if the commentary made is actually in some way a response to personal experiences with child molestation.

You don't have to post this information, it is too much information really, but I wonder how many here have had their views shaped by early exposure to emotional and/or physical abuse themselves. And amongst all of the snide remarks, why so few have the interests of the kids at heart.

While kids are certainly exposed to information on sex pretty early on, there is quite a difference between basic biological information and recognition/reporting of child molestation attempts and the stuff that is being pushed here.

Note there is no strong validation of positive emotion in the quoted books or a tie-in with romantic love. That is a pretty strong and unwanted jump for kids that might be in protective families where respect of self, love of family, of God, of whatever, is part of daily life.

What we see here, and in most of the posts, is all pretty much sex for sex, a very adult perspective and not one that is expected in kids that have not had some form of emotional or physical abuse in their lives already.

Failtroll

 

[Corn]

So, it's not ok to talk about fisting but it's ok to talk about mauling and killing people and showing disfigured and burnt corpses on national television. You have an odd sense of morality. Of course, both are disgusting, but why you protest only one of them is curious.

In fact, your outrage seems suspicious. Thou doth protest too much, methinks.

I don't remember saying that mauling and killing people and showing disfigured and burnt corpses on national television is OK. Could you please point out where I made that claim? Oh, I didn't, well then don't put words in my mount and I won't consider you a chin dribbling moron.

The one difference between TV and a classroom? You aren't forced to sit in front of the TV if whatever is on offends you.

 

[Acanthus]

I don't remember saying that mauling and killing people and showing disfigured and burnt corpses on national television is OK. Could you please point out where I made that claim? Oh, I didn't, well then don't put words in my mount and I won't consider you a chin dribbling moron.

The one difference between TV and a classroom? You aren't forced to sit in front of the TV if whatever is on offends you.

You aren't forced to sit in the classroom either. At the beginning of this chat they tell you that if you are uncomfortable with the material you are allowed to leave. Kids are also given slips to give to their parents that they can sign in order to opt out of the sex-ed courses and seminars.

So really, it's a whole lot of hot air about nothing.

Thx for this thread.