OBama's response to the Zimmerman verdict. WTF?!

[Matt1970]

And neither would the anti-defamation league or any other group that caters to the rights of a certain minority, idiot. This is not difficult to figure out. And people are lucky the president is in front of this. He's providing moral leadership over this incident. If he wasn't there, Florida would be burning right now. Yesterday, my wife and I went for a nice sunday walk and decided to go see two movies at Union Square. at the park near the movie theatre there was a massive protest. I did not take it seriously since young people and liberals are always protesting there. However, two movies later there was a huge march going south on Broadway and it appears that the cops did not expect it because there was little control and traffic was at a standstill. The marchers were people of all races you can think of. What were they saying? Naturally "No justice no peace". But there was no thrashing.

So, yeah, the president being on top of this is a good thing. Unlike back in 1992 there is a black leader who can actually lead. That leads to less violence when you have verdicts like these.

Yep, Obama is the only reason there are no riots right now. /sarcasm

 

[Dari]

Why do you assume the President is responsible for this...because he's black?

Because he's president of the United States and because he's black. And, because of the nation's experience over the Rodney King trial and subsequent riots. This is not too hard to figure out and it does not have to be enshrined in some stupid law for you to understand. The president co-opted this case and prevented it from getting out of control. That's what leaders do. George H.W. Bush did nothing because he thought he was too far removed from this incident even though blacks have a history of rioting after racially-charged incidents. Obama had to have learned from that. More importantly, however, the community where he comes from expected him to be the overall moral leader over this. In the end, everyone wins because blacks have someone that shares their pain and speaks for them. And control is not lost.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Because he's president of the United States and because he's black. And, because of the nation's experience over the Rodney King trial and subsequent riots. This is not too hard to figure out and it does not have to be enshrined in some stupid law for you to understand. The president co-opted this case and prevented it from getting out of control. That's what leaders do. George H.W. Bush did nothing because he thought he was too far removed from this incident even though blacks have a history of rioting after racially-charged incidents. Obama had to have learned from that. More importantly, however, the community where he comes from expected him to be the overall moral leader over this. In the end, everyone wins because blacks have someone that shares their pain and speaks for them. And control is not lost.

Well I appreciate the response I'm going to disagree. IMO leadership is not his strength.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Another black kid was killed by a gun, the fact that Zimmerman was legally allowed to have a gun doesn't change the fact that lots of black kids are killed by guns.

When you stop only thinking about yourself it becomes easier to put yourself in other peoples shoes. Surely you can understand where the black, previously a community organizer, father, and a resident if Chicago is coming from and what his point was.

Then he should start in the blood-bath that is Chicago.

 

[Dari]

Then he should start in the blood-bath that is Chicago.

Again, this is not difficult to understand. This Florida case is political. The countless killings of B on B is not. Those are community, social, and criminal cases, not political. He has done his time (including as a community organizer). He has also spoken out against gun violence and, the most obvious of all, for parents to be better parents. If the president does more than that he will be seen as being the president of only African-American.

Speaking of parents being better parents, my wife and I were walking to the movie theatre yesterday and this young black lady was walking west with 2 kids, a boy around age 4 and a baby girl in a stroller. The boy started to say something and the mother responded "Shut up, bitch". So, again, the issue in the black community has more to do with parenting, something the president has spoken out about. Seeing how his mother talks to him, I doubt if that boy is going to grow into a productive member of society. I wonder where the father was...

 

[TechBoyJK]

Because the laws should be changed. Psycho de-assimilated American racists shouldn't be allowed to own a gun, period.

Zim isn't racist. Stop trolling.

 

[TechBoyJK]

The laws need to be different. And, especially, a psycho de-assimilated racist like Zimmerman should NEVER be allowed to have a gun.

This is what Obama is referring to...the gun laws must be changed and the de-assimilated must be disarmed.

At least Zimmerman has now been exposed to be one of the de-assimilated men and his life will now be awful. He'll probably weigh at least 1000 pounds within a year, given the rate at which he was gaining weight. Fat as fuck.

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[FerrelGeek]

FBI ruled there was no race bias in the shooting. Zimmerman has actually quite the anti-racist past...Taking the Sanford Police to task for the beating of a black homeless man.

You are the race baiting psycho.

Yet that fact won't stop Obama and Holder from letting the full weight of the federal justice department stomp down on GZ's neck. This wasn't a federal matter, but Obama couldn't resist making it one.

 

[JulesMaximus]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...tement-following-zimmerman-verdict/?hpt=hp_t2

it starts off good enuf:
"We are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken. "

but then:
"We should ask ourselves if we’re doing all we can to stem the tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across this country on a daily basis. "

WTF?! Zimmerman had a LEGAL gun. it was self defense. the jury voted so.
So WTF?!


and lastly this:
"That’s the way to honor Trayvon Martin."

Holy WHAT?!
That's like Bush thanking the Rodney King cops for doing their jobs.

Obama's on the side of the violent attacker that assualted Zimmerman?!
So he thinks Zimmerman's a cracker too?

looks like zimmerman's going to get jacked up w/federal civil rights violation charges.

He's trying to appease both sides. It's called being a politician...

You're just trying too hard to be offended.

 

[FerrelGeek]

The FL case shouldn't have been political. Obama made it so.

Again, this is not difficult to understand. This Florida case is political. The countless killings of B on B is not. Those are community, social, and criminal cases, not political. He has done his time (including as a community organizer). He has also spoken out against gun violence and, the most obvious of all, for parents to be better parents. If the president does more than that he will be seen as being the president of only African-American.

Speaking of parents being better parents, my wife and I were walking to the movie theatre yesterday and this young black lady was walking west with 2 kids, a boy around age 4 and a baby girl in a stroller. The boy started to say something and the mother responded "Shut up, bitch". So, again, the issue in the black community has more to do with parenting, something the president has spoken out about. Seeing how his mother talks to him, I doubt if that boy is going to grow into a productive member of society. I wonder where the father was...

 

[xBiffx]

He's trying to appease both sides. It's called being a politician...

You're just trying too hard to be offended.

You're just trying too hard to make excuses.

 

[BlitzPuppet]

de-assimilated

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Holy shit, do you even know what that word means?

People suck, there are a lot of idiots in the world, and if you don't keep your nose clean/respect others you run the risk of getting in the wrong situation and possibly getting killed.

That's life.

 

[Juddog]

He's trying to appease both sides. It's called being a politician...

You're just trying too hard to be offended.

^^
This - faux outrage is annoying.

 

[corwin]

He's trying to appease both sides. It's called being a politician...

You're just trying too hard to be offended.

How is he trying to "appease" both sides here? He gives short lip service to "accepting" the verdict then basically makes a case that it was shit and we need to do more to stop "gun violence" a.k.a. self defense in this country. The only "side" he's appeasing is his liberal base and the black community. He should have kept his dumb ass mouth shut after fueling this bullshit in the beginning, but he had to go and double down on stupid I actually thought he would have learned something from talking too soon before he knew the facts, yet now he has the facts and is still blatantly talking out his ass

 

[corwin]

Holy shit, do you even know what that word means?

Doubtful...pretty sure it was on his "word-of-the-day" desk calendar recently

 

[FerrelGeek]

Holy shit, do you even know what that word means?

People suck, there are a lot of idiots in the world, and if you don't keep your nose clean/respect others you run the risk of getting in the wrong situation and possibly getting killed.

That's life.

He's watched too many Borg episodes.

 

[JulesMaximus]

How is he trying to "appease" both sides here? He gives short lip service to "accepting" the verdict then basically makes a case that it was shit and we need to do more to stop "gun violence" a.k.a. self defense in this country. The only "side" he's appeasing is his liberal base and the black community. He should have kept his dumb ass mouth shut after fueling this bullshit in the beginning, but he had to go and double down on stupid I actually thought he would have learned something from talking too soon before he knew the facts, yet now he has the facts and is still blatantly talking out his ass

Okay, maybe not both sides but he's definitely trying to appease people who are angry with the verdict. From what I've read of his speech I didn't find his words troubling at all. You are clearly trying too hard to be offended...

 

[FerrelGeek]

How is he trying to "appease" both sides here? He gives short lip service to "accepting" the verdict then basically makes a case that it was shit and we need to do more to stop "gun violence" a.k.a. self defense in this country. The only "side" he's appeasing is his liberal base and the black community. He should have kept his dumb ass mouth shut after fueling this bullshit in the beginning, but he had to go and double down on stupid I actually thought he would have learned something from talking too soon before he knew the facts, yet now he has the facts and is still blatantly talking out his ass

Precisely this. Obama either wanted to stir up trouble (like a good little community organizer) or he was too stupid to realize the consequences of his actions. Both the above are bad given that he's our president. He also doesn't seem to have the capacity to admit he made a mistake, as his current actions show.

This whole thing has been a showcase of liberal fail. 'White Hispanic"??? WTF is that??? That media generated phrase sums up the mess that was created by people desperate to make this a big political / race issue. If we apply that stupid phrase across the board, then Obama is a 'white black'. I think we can all agree that that phrase would not go over well, and I'm only using it as an example of how stupid it is.

 

[corwin]

Okay, maybe not both sides but he's definitely trying to appease people who are angry with the verdict. From what I've read of his speech I didn't find his words troubling at all. You are clearly trying too hard to be offended...

Not really, while I may agree he is trying to keep the rioting down he's doing so with a nod toward trying to use this to further erode gun laws and also basically backing further investigations into something that is pretty damn well clear cut, especially considering the "rest of the story" about TM that, while irrelevant to the trial, paints a pretty clear picture about him as a troubled youth. To continue to try and make him a little angel and "honor" him is a fucking joke. His death was tragic but there's nothing about him worth honoring either

 

[hal2kilo]

He's trying to appease both sides. It's called being a politician...

You're just trying too hard to be offended.

Pretty much this.

 

[Dari]

The FL case shouldn't have been political. Obama made it so.

Damn you're dumb.

 

[werepossum]

He's trying to appease both sides. It's called being a politician...

You're just trying too hard to be offended.

Pretty much. He should not have linked Zimmerman's shooting of Martin to illegal gun violence, but clearly he's trying to advance his agenda as well as placate pro-Martin supporters. For a President with whom I fundamentally disagree on most policy issues, this seems pretty mild as political statements go.

I think he should instead have commented on the need for conflict resolution skills that won't get one shot, but I'm neither surprised nor dismayed that he went this route.

 

[werepossum]

Yet that fact won't stop Obama and Holder from letting the full weight of the federal justice department stomp down on GZ's neck. This wasn't a federal matter, but Obama couldn't resist making it one.

If and when that happens I'll condemn them, but until then I think we owe him something of a pass on this one. Remember, when Obama made his comments it seemed to many people (including me) that Martin's wrongful death was being covered up by the good ol' boy network. We now know this perception was due entirely to media distortion, but no one outside of the Sanford police knew that at the time.

Then he should start in the blood-bath that is Chicago.

This on the other hand is undeniable. Obama as well as so-called black leaders ignore 95% of such deaths and get hysterical about the other 5%, regardless of the truth of individual cases. This serves no one well.

 

[cubby1223]

This on the other hand is undeniable. Obama as well as so-called black leaders ignore 95% of such deaths and get hysterical about the other 5%, regardless of the truth of individual cases. This serves no one well.

To be honest there are many times these "so-called black leaders" visit and make statements of very legitimate examples of racism by authorities against black people. The media ignores these situations. The true question is, why does the media prop up all the wrong cases into national circuses? Why is the media more focused on pushing agendas than they are investigating truth?

 

[EagleKeeper]

De-assimilated is someone who has removed himself from American society and culture. A sign of it is racial issues.

So then how did Zimmerman remove himself from society.


He lived in a community; was known by the people.
Shopped at the local merchants.
Was know and interacted with the local PD.
supported activities of the community.
Worked with minorities.


Is there a special unknown trigger that indicates he was de-assimilated.?