Obama's Environmental Hypocrisy?

[kylebisme]

No, but I can imagine how it could look like that while dizzying yourself by dancing around the fact that neither Amused or anyone else has provided proof to back his argument.

 

[Mani]

You know a guy's doing alright when people have to grasp at crap like this to criticize him.

 

[runestone]

I can't help but think of Xenu, and The Wall Of Fire.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
No, but I can imagine how it could look like that while dizzying yourself by dancing around the fact that neither Amused or anyone else has provided proof to back his argument.

Well Amused is a smart guy and he probably realized his error but he's also stubborn and probably won't admit it, at least as long as I've known him he's never admitted he was wrong when he was.

 

[yowolabi]

Amused usually makes logical arguments, which is why this POS post is so suprising.

On one hand we have the president advocating for smart meters so we know how much energy we're using, and saying to not keep the temp at 72 degrees at all times. On the other hand, we have Obama making it warm enough so he doesn't need a jacket when he's working in one room of the white house. Somehow this is hypocritical.

Ridiculous thread.

 

[bbdub333]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: JD50
Sorry, but conservative have had to hear this kind of shit from the libs for the past 8 years, enjoy.

You've got to be one sorry excuse of a man to think "other people make moronic arguments too" is a valid excuse to do the same.

You mean like the statements we hear constantly about how it's great that the Democratic legislatures are enacting rules to shut out Republican descent because it's giving the Republicans a taste of their own medicine from the last 8 years?

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Mani
You know a guy's doing alright when people have to grasp at crap like this to criticize him.

yeh he is doing alright so far... closing gitmo with no forethought as to where to put unwanted prisoners, appointing a tax cheat to oversee the IRS, $860B stimulus which will give tax money to illegals and groups like ACORN.

This issue is very minor, but I do find all this bickering about the oval office temperature amusing.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Xellos2099
Do government have the "right" to tell us how we can set our thermost in our own private home? If people can afford it, let them set it at w/e why want.

Great attitude.

Thanks for doing your part.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: Xellos2099
Do government have the "right" to tell us how we can set our thermost in our own private home? If people can afford it, let them set it at w/e why want.

Great attitude.

Thanks for doing your part.

All animals are equal. Some are more equal than others.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
No, but I can imagine how it could look like that while dizzying yourself by dancing around the fact that neither Amused or anyone else has provided proof to back his argument.

Well Amused is a smart guy and he probably realized his error but he's also stubborn and probably won't admit it, at least as long as I've known him he's never admitted he was wrong when he was.

I've admitted I'm wrong plenty of times. Usually with the phrase "my bad" or "oops."

The problem is, Red, I've not been wrong when debating you. Sorry.

I'm not wrong here. His advocating Smart Meters is all over the web. It's there for anyone to see. And with the history of smart meters, they end up being used for rationing. The information doesn't only go one way.

You may poo-poo the link I gave on this, but she documents everything she says with valid links. Sooooo, instead of using the old fallacious argument of poisoning the wells, why not actually address the points made in that link?

OOPS!!! Nope, it's easier just to brand her as a right wingnut and not have to debate the points, right?

And yes, his telling us all we have to suffer with uncomfortable temps in our homes and offices while heating his to what's comfortable for him IS hypocritical no matter how you look at it. HE isn't willing to sacrifice a damn thing, why should we?

 

[DealMonkey]

So, uh, Amused? I hate to interrupt your endless ranting, but did you manage to figure out what temperature Obama had "cranked" the thermostat up to yet?

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
No, but I can imagine how it could look like that while dizzying yourself by dancing around the fact that neither Amused or anyone else has provided proof to back his argument.

Well Amused is a smart guy and he probably realized his error but he's also stubborn and probably won't admit it, at least as long as I've known him he's never admitted he was wrong when he was.

I've admitted I'm wrong plenty of times. Usually with the phrase "my bad" or "oops."

The problem is, Red, I've not been wrong when debating you. Sorry.

I'm not wrong here. His advocating Smart Meters is all over the web. It's there for anyone to see. And with the history of smart meters, they end up being used for rationing. The information doesn't only go one way.

You may poo-poo the link I gave on this, but she documents everything she says with valid links. Sooooo, instead of using the old fallacious argument of poisoning the wells, why not actually address the points made in that link?

OOPS!!! Nope, it's easier just to brand her as a right wingnut and not have to debate the points, right?

And yes, his telling us all we have to suffer with uncomfortable temps in our homes and offices while heating his to what's comfortable for him IS hypocritical no matter how you look at it. HE isn't willing to sacrifice a damn thing, why should we?

Oh no, the facts are against me, time to make things up!

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
No, but I can imagine how it could look like that while dizzying yourself by dancing around the fact that neither Amused or anyone else has provided proof to back his argument.

Well Amused is a smart guy and he probably realized his error but he's also stubborn and probably won't admit it, at least as long as I've known him he's never admitted he was wrong when he was.

I've admitted I'm wrong plenty of times. Usually with the phrase "my bad" or "oops."

The problem is, Red, I've not been wrong when debating you. Sorry.

I'm not wrong here. His advocating Smart Meters is all over the web. It's there for anyone to see. And with the history of smart meters, they end up being used for rationing. The information doesn't only go one way.

You may poo-poo the link I gave on this, but she documents everything she says with valid links. Sooooo, instead of using the old fallacious argument of poisoning the wells, why not actually address the points made in that link?

OOPS!!! Nope, it's easier just to brand her as a right wingnut and not have to debate the points, right?

And yes, his telling us all we have to suffer with uncomfortable temps in our homes and offices while heating his to what's comfortable for him IS hypocritical no matter how you look at it. HE isn't willing to sacrifice a damn thing, why should we?

What you mean is that you are not wrong in your own mind assuming the various data you take as a given is valid in reality or have any real internal correlation or relationship. And what you've done is just brand Obama as a hypocrite and not debate the points really bothering you either.

It strikes me that you have a sore toe, an emotional reaction to smart meters probably generated by some libertarian inculcated fantasy that the government is your enemy and is out to control your life, a psychopathology we pick up from being controlled and destroyed as children and that we later project out in the world, so that from there, having that sore toe always out there exposed to the aisle of world waiting to be stepped on, Obama came along and said something about being cold. Bamb, he just stepped on your toe, and like any good player piano, your scripted reactions began to play and that big finger of Daddy's or Mommy's condemnation came out. Shame shame on you President Obama, you hypocrite. You want to be warm and you want me to be cold.

And in this way you expose yourself as an irrational fool and self centered egotist that wise and less brainwashed folk like me can see hiding in your post. Your reaction, of course, was upside down and completely wrong. Instead of wanting to turn up your heat like he did, you should have written him and told him that in the interest of saving the nation and consistency of message, he should turn his down.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Because...you know...that never happened with Bush.

yeah i means the stuff that bush did was totally on par with having the thermostat 'high'

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
No, but I can imagine how it could look like that while dizzying yourself by dancing around the fact that neither Amused or anyone else has provided proof to back his argument.

Well Amused is a smart guy and he probably realized his error but he's also stubborn and probably won't admit it, at least as long as I've known him he's never admitted he was wrong when he was.

I've admitted I'm wrong plenty of times. Usually with the phrase "my bad" or "oops."

No usually you disappear

The problem is, Red, I've not been wrong when debating you. Sorry.

I'm not wrong here. His advocating Smart Meters is all over the web. It's there for anyone to see. And with the history of smart meters, they end up being used for rationing. The information doesn't only go one way.

You may poo-poo the link I gave on this, but she documents everything she says with valid links. Sooooo, instead of using the old fallacious argument of poisoning the wells, why not actually address the points made in that link?

OOPS!!! Nope, it's easier just to brand her as a right wingnut and not have to debate the points, right?

And yes, his telling us all we have to suffer with uncomfortable temps in our homes and offices while heating his to what's comfortable for him IS hypocritical no matter how you look at it. HE isn't willing to sacrifice a damn thing, why should we?

So what was the temp and where does it say he keeps it at 72 degrees for 24 hrs a day?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: JD50
Sorry, but conservative have had to hear this kind of shit from the libs for the past 8 years, enjoy.

You've got to be one sorry excuse of a man to think "other people make moronic arguments too" is a valid excuse to do the same.

Lighten up dick, it's an internet message board. My point is valid. Conservatives have had to deal with petty criticisms of GWB over the past 8 years, now liberals are going to have to deal with petty criticisms of Obama. This is what happens in P&N, deal with it or GTFO.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: JD50
Sorry, but conservative have had to hear this kind of shit from the libs for the past 8 years, enjoy.

You've got to be one sorry excuse of a man to think "other people make moronic arguments too" is a valid excuse to do the same.

Lighten up dick, it's an internet message board. My point is valid. Conservatives have had to deal with petty criticisms of GWB over the past 8 years, now liberals are going to have to deal with petty criticisms of Obama. This is what happens in P&N, deal with it or GTFO.

QFT. Just be happy that Obama isn't an epic disaster like GWB at this time (of course, GWB seemed to deteriorate over time, probably due to the ghouls he surrounded himself with). Honestly, I think GWB's administration was more a reflection of the men around him than anything else, he would have done a million times better with a more honorable, non-PNAC supporting cast.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: JD50
Sorry, but conservative have had to hear this kind of shit from the libs for the past 8 years, enjoy.

You've got to be one sorry excuse of a man to think "other people make moronic arguments too" is a valid excuse to do the same.

Lighten up dick, it's an internet message board. My point is valid. Conservatives have had to deal with petty criticisms of GWB over the past 8 years, now liberals are going to have to deal with petty criticisms of Obama. This is what happens in P&N, deal with it or GTFO.

Being constantly reminded that Bush was your guy must have been brutal, I can understand your bitterness.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: JD50
Sorry, but conservative have had to hear this kind of shit from the libs for the past 8 years, enjoy.

You've got to be one sorry excuse of a man to think "other people make moronic arguments too" is a valid excuse to do the same.

Lighten up dick, it's an internet message board. My point is valid. Conservatives have had to deal with petty criticisms of GWB over the past 8 years, now liberals are going to have to deal with petty criticisms of Obama. This is what happens in P&N, deal with it or GTFO.

Being constantly reminded that Bush was your guy must have been brutal, I can understand your bitterness.

Thank you for your understanding.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: bbdub333

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: JD50
Sorry, but conservative have had to hear this kind of shit from the libs for the past 8 years, enjoy.

You've got to be one sorry excuse of a man to think "other people make moronic arguments too" is a valid excuse to do the same.

You mean like the statements we hear constantly about how it's great that the Democratic legislatures are enacting rules to shut out Republican descent because it's giving the Republicans a taste of their own medicine from the last 8 years?

Yes, I mean like those sorry excuses for men.

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: JD50
Sorry, but conservative have had to hear this kind of shit from the libs for the past 8 years, enjoy.

You've got to be one sorry excuse of a man to think "other people make moronic arguments too" is a valid excuse to do the same.

Lighten up dick, it's an internet message board. My point is valid. Conservatives have had to deal with petty criticisms of GWB over the past 8 years, now liberals are going to have to deal with petty criticisms of Obama. This is what happens in P&N, deal with it or GTFO.

Your point is jackassery, and you are reveling in it.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Its petty to force a large group of people to do something and then for you yourself to do something else?

By your logic its ok for execs to get billions in bonuses even though their companies are failing too I suppose?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Its petty to force a large group of people to do something and then for you yourself to do something else?

By your logic its ok for execs to get billions in bonuses even though their companies are failing too I suppose?

OK Speckflop, what is he doing that he tells others not too?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Its petty to force a large group of people to do something and then for you yourself to do something else?

By your logic its ok for execs to get billions in bonuses even though their companies are failing too I suppose?

OK Speckflop, what is he doing that he tells others not too?

Drive SUV's. Have you seen the Presidential motorcade? 🙂 Armored SUV's by the dozens!!!

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Its petty to force a large group of people to do something and then for you yourself to do something else?

By your logic its ok for execs to get billions in bonuses even though their companies are failing too I suppose?

OK Speckflop, what is he doing that he tells others not too?

Drive SUV's. Have you seen the Presidential motorcade? 🙂 Armored SUV's by the dozens!!!

Where is he FORCING people to do what he said?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Amused
Apparently he can be warm, but you can't...

This is one of the telling distinctions between the ideal of socialism and the realities of communism that stem from those ideals.