Obama's Environmental Hypocrisy?

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JEDIYoda

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Tammy Bruce.com is what a freakin blog...rofl...thatsd hardly a credible source..
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: Amused
Could this be the same Obama who is looking to sign a stimulus bill that would spend billions of dollars installing millions of "smart meters" that would enable your power company to prevent you from being as toasty warm as he is?

Anyone else find this hypocritical and elitist?

One can't rightly say one way or the other without first reading the bill you allude to.

Would you please you quote the portion of whatever bill you are claiming is evidence of hypocrisy and elitistism?

First link in google:

http://tammybruce.com/2008/12/meet_the_smart_meter.php

Want more, google it yourself.

I want to know what proof you have to back your claim. Am I to take it you don't know of any portion of any bill which would prove your claim of hypocrisy and elitistism?



 
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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Hypocrisy......


Obama Slams Wall Street Bonuses --- Geithner, not so much.

Read much? How is your link hypocrisy?

White House aides did not respond to questions about Geithner?s compensation from the bank, but Fed officials told the Associated Press that the severance payment was from a retirement fund. Since Geithner was not retiring, he was able to cash out the current value of the fund.

The guy cashed out his part of the retirement fund because he wasn't retiring.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
lol at all the apologists...
You're an idiot as are those who mistakenly call Obama a hypocrite over this.

It's CAD. What do you expect? His basic posting plan goes something like this:
1.) See poorly sourced/poorly reasoned post.
2.) Declare Obama/Democrats to be evil/wrong/hypocrites/whatever
3.) When called out on his stupidity start screaming "LOL APOLOGISTS" (note: sometimes he just skips to step 3)
4.) Cling to his point like a rabid mongoose until exhausting the patience of everyone arrayed against him.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Amused
I found this rather interesting...

From the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01...29whitehouse.html?_r=1

The capital flew into a bit of a tizzy when, on his first full day in the White House, President Obama was photographed in the Oval Office without his suit jacket. There was, however, a logical explanation: Mr. Obama, who hates the cold, had cranked up the thermostat.

"He's from Hawaii, O.K.?" said Mr. Obama's senior adviser, David Axelrod, who occupies the small but strategically located office next door to his boss. "He likes it warm. You could grow orchids in there."

Now wait, is this the same Obama who said back in May:

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times... and then just expect that other countries are going to say "OK"... That's not leadership. That's not going to happen."

Could this be the same Obama who is looking to sign a stimulus bill that would spend billions of dollars installing millions of "smart meters" that would enable your power company to prevent you from being as toasty warm as he is?

Anyone else find this hypocritical and elitist?

No. Perhaps you can tell us what he "cranked it up" to? But really, so what?
 

DealMonkey

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Remember too, that W overhauled the WH, and now it's 20-30% more energy efficient. Nice job, W.

In a June 28 press release, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer stated that Bush's directives along with completion of building improvements already underway at the White House and Executive Office Building could result in a 25 to 30 percent reduction in energy usage in the "peoples' house."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa070201a.htm

In fact, it seems the temps are controlled centrally.

Building temperatures will be regulated based upon the temperature and humidity relationship. Warmer temperatures will be maintained at lower humidity, with cooler temperature settings used as humidity increases. Temperatures will be maintained between 74 to 78 degrees F.

But seriously? You expect the leader of the free world to freeze his ass off in the White House? Really?


 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
lol at all the apologists...
You're an idiot as are those who mistakenly call Obama a hypocrite over this.

You're an idiot as are those who are playing apologist for BHO over this.


wow... care to continue? :roll:
Well seeing that we are both idiots it seems we have something in common.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Remember too, that W overhauled the WH, and now it's 20-30% more energy efficient. Nice job, W.

In a June 28 press release, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer stated that Bush's directives along with completion of building improvements already underway at the White House and Executive Office Building could result in a 25 to 30 percent reduction in energy usage in the "peoples' house."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa070201a.htm

In fact, it seems the temps are controlled centrally.

Building temperatures will be regulated based upon the temperature and humidity relationship. Warmer temperatures will be maintained at lower humidity, with cooler temperature settings used as humidity increases. Temperatures will be maintained between 74 to 78 degrees F.

But seriously? You expect the leader of the free world to freeze his ass off in the White House? Really?
Excuse me, if he doesn't keep it at 72 degrees all the time he's not being hypocitical.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Remember too, that W overhauled the WH, and now it's 20-30% more energy efficient. Nice job, W.

In a June 28 press release, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer stated that Bush's directives along with completion of building improvements already underway at the White House and Executive Office Building could result in a 25 to 30 percent reduction in energy usage in the "peoples' house."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa070201a.htm

In fact, it seems the temps are controlled centrally.

Building temperatures will be regulated based upon the temperature and humidity relationship. Warmer temperatures will be maintained at lower humidity, with cooler temperature settings used as humidity increases. Temperatures will be maintained between 74 to 78 degrees F.

But seriously? You expect the leader of the free world to freeze his ass off in the White House? Really?

Not only that but had Obama put on a sweater instead, the usual turds on here would have immediately jumped on it, going "LOLCARTER". That's because they are only interested in attacking Obama for retarded shit.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
lol at all the apologists...
You're an idiot as are those who mistakenly call Obama a hypocrite over this.

You're an idiot as are those who are playing apologist for BHO over this.


wow... care to continue? :roll:
Well seeing that we are both idiots it seems we have something in common.

but that has nothing to do with the usual apologists that have pranced around in this thread. Sure, it may not be a big deal but if it isn't, then why are all the apologists getting their panties in a bunch? Seems they are a bit defensive whenever someone questions the messiah.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I mean, after all, the guy was reading a children's book up side down. I distinctly remember the pictures.

Actually, the book being upside down was just a photochop.

But yeah, the sitting on his ass while the nation was under attack was absurd, as would be scream at the kids that the world was ending. It is disturbing how so many people attempt to justify one irrational response by comparing it to another.

You mean all this time I've been giving that guy credit for being able to read upside down?
 

JD50

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Sorry, but conservative have had to hear this kind of shit from the libs for the past 8 years, enjoy.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

Bullshit. Bush was chastised on the morning of 9/11/2001 because he was reading a book to schoolchildren and didn't scream at the kids that the world was ending. I guess he was supposed to don his cape and make and fly to NY.

Bush was an idiot, but don't pretend that he didn't get jumped on for petty shit the entire time he was in office.

Uhmm, he didn't have to say anything to the kids. You would think he wouldn't want to hang out there for 10 minutes reading children's books when he was told "America is under attack" though. I mean I'm no expert, but that seems like a bad idea to me. I guess I should check in and see what FDR did after he heard about Pearl Harbor. There's a chance he stuck around and read the comics in the newspaper before doing anything.

Bush was rightfully attacked for fucking up prior to 9/11, and rightfully attacked for fucking up Katrina.

I think you just proved BoberFett's point.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

Bullshit. Bush was chastised on the morning of 9/11/2001 because he was reading a book to schoolchildren and didn't scream at the kids that the world was ending. I guess he was supposed to don his cape and make and fly to NY.

Bush was an idiot, but don't pretend that he didn't get jumped on for petty shit the entire time he was in office.

Uhmm, he didn't have to say anything to the kids. You would think he wouldn't want to hang out there for 10 minutes reading children's books when he was told "America is under attack" though. I mean I'm no expert, but that seems like a bad idea to me. I guess I should check in and see what FDR did after he heard about Pearl Harbor. There's a chance he stuck around and read the comics in the newspaper before doing anything.

Bush was rightfully attacked for fucking up prior to 9/11, and rightfully attacked for fucking up Katrina.

I think you just proved BoberFett's point.

If you think the President sitting there paralyzed when told that the country is under attack is 'petty shit', comparable with the thermostat setting in the White House, that's your business.

It would be really dumb, but still... your business. You really want to find yourself defending someone like Boberfett?
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

Bullshit. Bush was chastised on the morning of 9/11/2001 because he was reading a book to schoolchildren and didn't scream at the kids that the world was ending. I guess he was supposed to don his cape and make and fly to NY.

Bush was an idiot, but don't pretend that he didn't get jumped on for petty shit the entire time he was in office.

Uhmm, he didn't have to say anything to the kids. You would think he wouldn't want to hang out there for 10 minutes reading children's books when he was told "America is under attack" though. I mean I'm no expert, but that seems like a bad idea to me. I guess I should check in and see what FDR did after he heard about Pearl Harbor. There's a chance he stuck around and read the comics in the newspaper before doing anything.

Bush was rightfully attacked for fucking up prior to 9/11, and rightfully attacked for fucking up Katrina.

I think you just proved BoberFett's point.

If you think the President sitting there paralyzed when told that the country is under attack is 'petty shit', comparable with the thermostat setting in the White House, that's your business.

It would be really dumb, but still... your business. You really want to find yourself defending someone like Boberfett?

Not everyone is an Obama drone just standing in line to gobble his knob.

You're as bad as ProfJohn and his defense of Bush.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: JD50
Sorry, but conservative have had to hear this kind of shit from the libs for the past 8 years, enjoy.

You've got to be one sorry excuse of a man to think "other people make moronic arguments too" is a valid excuse to do the same.
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: JD50
Sorry, but conservative have had to hear this kind of shit from the libs for the past 8 years, enjoy.

You've got to be one sorry excuse of a man to think "other people make moronic arguments too" is a valid excuse to do the same.

your just jealous cuz you made some of those original moronic arguments aren't you?