Obama's Environmental Hypocrisy?

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Yeah.. like those little 800+ billion dollar pork things.. minor..

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

Lets not forget about him blowing up the WTC and the levees in New Orleans.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Yeah.. like those little 800+ billion dollar pork things.. minor..

Hey that needs to be scrutinized and explained to us average Americans. I support Obama and even some of the tihings in that bill have me wondering. This shit ab out his thermostat is bullshit. How do we know he doesn't practice what he preaches? He did say not to have it at 72 degrees at all times not at times.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

Lets not forget about him blowing up the WTC and the levees in New Orleans.

Well that's what you conspiracy nuts think, but you're mentally ill.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Amused

Could this be the same Obama who is looking to sign a stimulus bill that would spend billions of dollars installing millions of "smart meters" that would enable your power company to prevent you from being as toasty warm as he is?

so you don't want people to be exposed to the actual market price of the electricity they consume? so that they can make good choices with proper market-based information?

 

[Xavier434]

This is news?

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Hey geniuses, he was talking about a public policy decision for all of America, not what the thermostat in the White House should read.

Do as I say, not as I do, eh?

Last I knew the whitehouse was part of America. Has he sold it?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Hey geniuses, he was talking about a public policy decision for all of America, not what the thermostat in the White House should read.

Right, because what's good for the goose is not good for the gander.

God you people are dense. Obama thinks that people making over a certain amount of money should pay higher taxes. Does that mean he should start voluntarily gifting that extra percentage to the government today? Of course not, that would be stupid.

This is just a variation on the HURR HURR ALGORE thing that shows up in half the global warming threads. It stems from a willful inability to distinguish between public policy goals and private action.

 

[Red Dawn]

The petty annies don't want to address the fact that what he said wasn't hypocritical

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

God this is such a pathetic stance on the issue. Because people did something wrong in regards to bush - its a-ok for people to do it to Obama?

And the ironic thing is, this thread is about hypocrisy....

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Because...you know...that never happened with Bush.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

Bullshit. Bush was chastised on the morning of 9/11/2001 because he was reading a book to schoolchildren and didn't scream at the kids that the world was ending. I guess he was supposed to don his cape and make and fly to NY.

Bush was an idiot, but don't pretend that he didn't get jumped on for petty shit the entire time he was in office.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

Bullshit. Bush was chastised on the morning of 9/11/2001 because he was reading a book to schoolchildren and didn't scream at the kids that the world was ending. I guess he was supposed to don his cape and make and fly to NY.

Bush was an idiot, but don't pretend that he didn't get jumped on for petty shit the entire time he was in office.

Uhmm, he didn't have to say anything to the kids. You would think he wouldn't want to hang out there for 10 minutes reading children's books when he was told "America is under attack" though. I mean I'm no expert, but that seems like a bad idea to me. I guess I should check in and see what FDR did after he heard about Pearl Harbor. There's a chance he stuck around and read the comics in the newspaper before doing anything.

Bush was rightfully attacked for fucking up prior to 9/11, and rightfully attacked for fucking up Katrina.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

bwuhahaha,

haven't you been a, umm, reader, of these forums the past few years?

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Amused
Could this be the same Obama who is looking to sign a stimulus bill that would spend billions of dollars installing millions of "smart meters" that would enable your power company to prevent you from being as toasty warm as he is?

Anyone else find this hypocritical and elitist?

One can't rightly say one way or the other without first reading the bill you allude to.

Would you please you quote the portion of whatever bill you are claiming is evidence of hypocrisy and elitistism?

First link in google:

http://tammybruce.com/2008/12/meet_the_smart_meter.php

Want more, google it yourself.

I did google smart meter and smart meters and I didn't get tammybruce.com as my first link. Not even close. Maybe you googled "smart meters and right-wing nutjobs"?

I just googled "smart meters and right wing", and tammybruce was the second link.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

Bullshit. Bush was chastised on the morning of 9/11/2001 because he was reading a book to schoolchildren and didn't scream at the kids that the world was ending. I guess he was supposed to don his cape and make and fly to NY.

Bush was an idiot, but don't pretend that he didn't get jumped on for petty shit the entire time he was in office.

So is jumping an idiot at every tern the same as or different from jumping a new intelligent agent of change for petty shit? Can we excuse one and not forgive the other? I mean, after all, the guy was reading a children's book up side down. I distinctly remember the pictures.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He should instruct his people to watch what they say, it seems the petty squad is out to jump on any little insignificant thing to chastise him.

Which would be different than the past eight years how exactly?

Because Bush was chastised for significant things like lying about Iraq, fucking up Katrina, etc.

Bullshit. Bush was chastised on the morning of 9/11/2001 because he was reading a book to schoolchildren and didn't scream at the kids that the world was ending. I guess he was supposed to don his cape and make and fly to NY.

Bush was an idiot, but don't pretend that he didn't get jumped on for petty shit the entire time he was in office.

Hmmm where in my reply did I state that he wasn't chastised for insignificant things? What I did say was that he was chastised for significant fuck ups. Obama has yet to Fuck up.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Amused
Could this be the same Obama who is looking to sign a stimulus bill that would spend billions of dollars installing millions of "smart meters" that would enable your power company to prevent you from being as toasty warm as he is?

Anyone else find this hypocritical and elitist?

One can't rightly say one way or the other without first reading the bill you allude to.

Would you please you quote the portion of whatever bill you are claiming is evidence of hypocrisy and elitistism?

First link in google:

http://tammybruce.com/2008/12/meet_the_smart_meter.php

Want more, google it yourself.

I did google smart meter and smart meters and I didn't get tammybruce.com as my first link. Not even close. Maybe you googled "smart meters and right-wing nutjobs"?

I just googled "smart meters and right wing", and tammybruce was the second link.

Um, no. Google "smart meters" +obama and it comes up first.

 

[marincounty]

Next up, Obama is wasting fuel by flying by himself on his private jet (AirForce 1)
OMG the hypocrisy.

 

[MovingTarget]

Well, this is a non-issue. One room of the WH isn't going to make a difference in the grand scheme of things, but setting a responsible environmental policy for the nation would. This thread needs some perspective. Besides, if Reagan hadn't removed the solar collectors from the WH years ago because it 'sent the wrong message', the WH would still be setting a damn good example for environmentalism even with the slightly-noneedofacoat-higher thermostat. Get a grip.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: Amused
I found this rather interesting...

From the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01...29whitehouse.html?_r=1

The capital flew into a bit of a tizzy when, on his first full day in the White House, President Obama was photographed in the Oval Office without his suit jacket. There was, however, a logical explanation: Mr. Obama, who hates the cold, had cranked up the thermostat.

"He's from Hawaii, O.K.?" said Mr. Obama's senior adviser, David Axelrod, who occupies the small but strategically located office next door to his boss. "He likes it warm. You could grow orchids in there."

Now wait, is this the same Obama who said back in May:

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times... and then just expect that other countries are going to say "OK"... That's not leadership. That's not going to happen."

Could this be the same Obama who is looking to sign a stimulus bill that would spend billions of dollars installing millions of "smart meters" that would enable your power company to prevent you from being as toasty warm as he is?

Anyone else find this hypocritical and elitist?

The Dems don't lead by example.... do as I say not as I do.

The secretary of the treasury doesn't pay taxes so this doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Well, this is a non-issue. One room of the WH isn't going to make a difference in the grand scheme of things, but setting a responsible environmental policy for the nation would. This thread needs some perspective. Besides, if Reagan hadn't removed the solar collectors from the WH years ago because it 'sent the wrong message', the WH would still be setting a damn good example for environmentalism even with the slightly-noneedofacoat-higher thermostat. Get a grip.

If one room of the white house doesn't matter, then one room in my house doesn't matter. And one room in 100 million houses don't matter.

Or is there a different standard for glorious leader?

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Amused
stuff about smart meters

I would love to have a smart meter on my apartment. It would actually make it seem worth it to run high electricity items in the evening, when I can see a real savings due to electricity being cheaper, instead of the current system of reading meters manually and charging an average kWhr price.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I mean, after all, the guy was reading a children's book up side down. I distinctly remember the pictures.

Actually, the book being upside down was just a photochop.

But yeah, the sitting on his ass while the nation was under attack was absurd, as would be scream at the kids that the world was ending. It is disturbing how so many people attempt to justify one irrational response by comparing it to another.