Obama's "Death Panel"

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BMW540I6speed

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: loki8481
in other news, some chick who was almost famous for almost doing something once said something on a blog.

Must eat at you at bit... don't it....

I just don't get the liberal obsession with Sarah Palin... if I knew this thread was about her, I wouldn't have bothered clicking on it.

she's some lady who ran for a ceremonial office, lost, and will never hold another public office again in her life. why do you guys hang on her every word with baited breath?

So, she can continue to LIE through her teeth and use her "celebrity" to influence others. She can still influence the simple-minded and the confused. She is one of the most popular figures in the Republican party. This grasping, lying woman has a malformed conscience. She'll say anything to keep the spotlight on herself. Palin is so secure that her extended family will take care of her life long dependent child, she doesn't give a damn for others who may not be so lucky, so she lies and lies.

I hope Trig never loses coverage. Palin better hope so too; given the sorts of cardiopulmonary problems which many Down Syndrome people are prone to, I doubt many private insurers will be beating a path to cover him.

If only Sarah Palin could actually experience what the average person in her position -special needs child with expensive medical needs - experiences, she'd be singing a different tune. That is what's truly disgusting about her comments, not the all-too-predictable hypocrisy.

Palin uses her son as a prop again. The woman really has no shame. She's a media whore who never missed the opportunity to throw her family up for political points while perpetally casting herself as the victim. Now we get this bullshit about a "death panel". If anything her son would get care he would otherwise be denied under our present system to poor parents with children who have pre-existing conditions.

They're fabricating horrible lies with absolutely no support, and getting away with it. TO A HUGE AUDIENCE who absolutly LOVES her. Pathetic. I'm curious - if she really think she's going to stand before God one of these days, isn't she slightly uncomfortable about all the times she's borne false witness?

Sarah Palin, yesterday: "my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama?s 'death panel.'"

I'm guessing she's fuming today about how the media is refusing to leave her son alone, dragging him into the health care debate like this. The media whore wants to still be a media whore, she deserves what she gets. I will ignore her when she goes away and stays away.

 

Hayabusa Rider

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Dude Palin is an idiot who will always have her few nutcase supporters. She's out there to make you angry. Don't let her control h
you. Mocking is more effective. Gets her loons all shook up
 

Pliablemoose

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Death Panel, yeah...

After working with such fucked up families that demand their loved one be kept "alive" at all costs, I think a death panel is a great idea.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Death Panel, yeah...

After working with such fucked up families that demand their loved one be kept "alive" at all costs, I think a death panel is a great idea.

This could have entertainment potential.

Have three patients with life threatening conditions perform for Simon, and the one who wins get's treated. The others get lovely parting gifts.
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Death Panel, yeah...

After working with such fucked up families that demand their loved one be kept "alive" at all costs, I think a death panel is a great idea.

This could have entertainment potential.

Have three patients with life threatening conditions perform for Simon, and the one who wins get's treated. The others get lovely parting gifts.

Reality TV, Obama style?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Death Panel, yeah...

After working with such fucked up families that demand their loved one be kept "alive" at all costs, I think a death panel is a great idea.

This could have entertainment potential.

Have three patients with life threatening conditions perform for Simon, and the one who wins get's treated. The others get lovely parting gifts.

Reality TV, Obama style?

It could reduce the deficit.
 

Newbian

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

But she is HOT, have to vote for her.

ick... in no way shape or form is any chick that wears her hair in a bun hot.

So you never had a hot school teacher that did that? :(
 

Dari

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"Death panel"? Is that what they're calling it now? Before, when corporations did it, I could've sworn it was called something else.
 

alchemize

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Somebody has to make death (stop treatment) decisions, the hospital/doctor never will. I personally would rather have an evil corporation (that the company I work for has a relationship with and is a customer of) than the government make those decisions.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Somebody has to make death (stop treatment) decisions, the hospital/doctor never will. I personally would rather have an evil corporation (that the company I work for has a relationship with and is a customer of) than the government make those decisions.


:thumbsdown:

Not me, if you think your value to your company and their relationship with thier insurance provider will win you any favor you may want to rethink that or talk to someone who has been in that position.

 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: alchemize
Somebody has to make death (stop treatment) decisions, the hospital/doctor never will. I personally would rather have an evil corporation (that the company I work for has a relationship with and is a customer of) than the government make those decisions.


:thumbsdown:

Not me, if you think your value to your company and their relationship with thier insurance provider will win you any favor you may want to rethink that or talk to someone who has been in that position.
I don't need to talk to anyone, I've been in that position, on both sides of the equation (both working at an insurance company as well as having employer paid insurance). I personally have several examples, and know of many others.
 

coolVariable

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Don't you guys think that Obama is right?

I mean a UHC plan should have FORCED her to abort, once they knew the baby had Down's.
If she decided to have the baby anyhow, she can't really expect the UHC to pay for its medical costs, since she shouldn't have had it to begin with.

 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Somebody has to make death (stop treatment) decisions, the hospital/doctor never will. I personally would rather have an evil corporation (that the company I work for has a relationship with and is a customer of) than the government make those decisions.

This is so very true.

My maternal parental unit had a simple one-paragraph DNR with which both the hospital and oncologist would not comply.

For my Pop's living will and health care POA you'd have to bring that thing in with a handtruck. We sat down with him and outlined every treatment, medicine, procedure, physical state and level of care that we could find. Researched each and everything and talked about as a family over 4 months. Kept it updated over time.

It was difficult, but 7 years later it helped greatly as the kids 'parented' him to his death.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: alchemize

Why would a UHC plan force somebody to have an abortion?

For the same reason they would force someone to die... THEY WOULDN'T! All of the talk about forcing either is utter bullshit.
 

CPA

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This administration can't even properly handle the CARS program. It's costing us 200% more than originally planned because this idiotic administration can't manage it correctly, yet we want to put healthcare in their hands??? This country is doomed.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: CPA

This administration can't even properly handle the CARS program. It's costing us 200% more than originally planned because this idiotic administration can't manage it correctly, yet we want to put healthcare in their hands??? This country is doomed.

No, it's just far more popular and successful than was anticipated. It's a winner. :thumbsup:

Of course, I have to wonder how you think this relates to the bullshit that Obama's health care plan would mandate so called "Death Panels." :confused:
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: alchemize
Somebody has to make death (stop treatment) decisions, the hospital/doctor never will. I personally would rather have an evil corporation (that the company I work for has a relationship with and is a customer of) than the government make those decisions.


:thumbsdown:

Not me, if you think your value to your company and their relationship with thier insurance provider will win you any favor you may want to rethink that or talk to someone who has been in that position.
I don't need to talk to anyone, I've been in that position, on both sides of the equation (both working at an insurance company as well as having employer paid insurance). I personally have several examples, and know of many others.

That explains your point of view
 

LumbergTech

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these people are hilarious...they are going on and on describing the same stupid shit that insurance companies do..in fact the whole point of this is that there will be less denial of treatment (whether this is true or not is debatable, but its quite hypocritical to pretend like people haven't died because of insurance company's refusal to allow treatment)
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: alchemize
Somebody has to make death (stop treatment) decisions, the hospital/doctor never will. I personally would rather have an evil corporation (that the company I work for has a relationship with and is a customer of) than the government make those decisions.


:thumbsdown:

Not me, if you think your value to your company and their relationship with thier insurance provider will win you any favor you may want to rethink that or talk to someone who has been in that position.
I don't need to talk to anyone, I've been in that position, on both sides of the equation (both working at an insurance company as well as having employer paid insurance). I personally have several examples, and know of many others.

That explains your point of view
Certainly makes me much more educated than most in this forum on it. Where do you work?

And for the record, I no longer work in insurance, so I've got no skin in the game.

 
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Originally posted by: CPA
This administration can't even properly handle the CARS program. It's costing us 200% more than originally planned because this idiotic administration can't manage it correctly, yet we want to put healthcare in their hands??? This country is doomed.

The Crank Cycle
 

extra

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Sarah Palin would be really awesome in an amateur lesbian porn film. Think about it. "Palin lickin' liberals". "Hockey Moms Gone Wild". "The governor up north goes down south." "Palin visits the bush". Something along those lines.

She's laughable at politics, though. People are starting to wake up and realize how laughable the far right's claims are. It's great seeing them self destruct.