Obama Vs. Palin - Palin pulls within one point of Obama

[Greenman]

Actually, i haven't listened to many of his speeches, nor have i read them but if you could quote anywhere where he has blamed Bush that might be a good place for you to start?

Liberalism is progressive, evolution is progressive, naturally those who believe that we rode on dinosaurs less than 6k years ago has regressive minds.

That means that you are thinking like children for all of you with regressive minds.

Jesus on a fucking dinosaur. yeah, someone who believes that should be a politician with any kind of power in their hands... hand over the nuke codes and let jesus decide!

Could you stretch that logic any further?
If liberalism means committing cultural suicide the way you Brits have, I want no part of it. You folks are going a third world country within twenty years, though I expect the US won't be all that far behind you.

 

[OrByte]

One of the reasons I enjoy working in DC is that it gives me plenty of business and social opportunity to meet people you see only on TV for seconds at a time. I mostly work for myself so I have plenty of time to follow up on my interests. Not only do I get to chat up many of them, I can get the personal tenor and character of many of the players and supporting cast. DC is really a small town in that way.

While there are many Democrats putting on a brave face, others are looking for the exits.

How about a leading indicator? Right now, for example, more and more Congressional staffers are putting out resumes. They love the work, they love the pomp and the cause, but they know they will not have the same job a year from now.

Right now, and you might be reading about this in your local paper, or the local rag POLITICO, Democrat Congressmen that should be secure in their re-election prospects are considering not running at all. A number have already come out and said they are getting out of the game at the end of this term rather than take the ever increasing risk they will spend lots of money to lose anyway. They have felt the tide change.

I work in finance. I raise money. I talk to a lot of people who need money and I talk to people who have a lot of money. The smart money is angry, very angry. They are going to put their money where it will do the most good and it will not be going to Democrats. I don't even broach the subject. I just ask one of my regular questions, "What do you expect your tax impact is going to be going forward?"

Remember that stupid commercial that had very attractive hetero and homosexual models saying they would not have sex with Republicans (and, coincidentally, the STD rate went up amongst the Dems)? Well, the business people, the entrepreneurs and the shareholders and managers of major corporations paid for a very expensive date with the Democrat leadership that had come on all lovey dovey. The moment the Dems got their election the love went away.

Are you familiar with the Aesop fable, "The Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs?" Do you know the morals of this simple but telling tale?

* Greed destroys the source of good.
* Think before you act.
* Those who want too much lose everything.

It is an old story that many Republicans and Democrats in DC should have remembered. And didn't. The thing is, it is only the Democrats that have got hold of the goose now. They are squeezing it tight and the Democrat axe is falling as we speak.

with the way you rationalize your arguments and how you present your "opinion" you are nothing more than a used car salesman in some backend lot.

I don't believe a word you say...and I know I'm not alone.

And since I have an IQ of 250 and I have billions of dollars in the bank what I say has more weight than what you say....

sound good?

 

[PJABBER]

with the way you rationalize your arguments and how you present your "opinion" you are nothing more than a used car salesman in some backend lot.

I don't believe a word you say...and I know I'm not alone.

And since I have an IQ of 250 and I have billions of dollars in the bank what I say has more weight than what you say....

sound good?

I guess you are not looking to buy a good used car or a misfiring government?

LMAO!!!

 

[OrByte]

I guess you are not looking to buy a good used car or a misfiring government?

LMAO!!!

Government will take care of itself, always had always will

I simply intend to not buy any of your bullshit.

 

[seemingly random]

I guess you are not looking to buy a good used car or a misfiring government?

LMAO!!!

Weasel breath. I thought there was a minimum age required to participate on these forums.

 

[PJABBER]

Government will take care of itself, always had always will

I simply intend to not buy any of your bullshit.

Keep driving what you got, my friend. Just remember, the trade-in value drops with every mile!

;-)

 

[IGBT]

Palin is a gift to the Dems. As long as the Reps keep fronting people like her instead of a Buckley, they haven't a chance.

if they really thought palin was a liability, they (libs) would promote her like they did mcCaine..knowing full well mccaine was unelectable.

 

[Moonbeam]

Did you laugh then as well?

Every time somebody called him an idiot. The blue blood Yale grad who became a brush cutting cowboy and every stupido liberal in the country fell for it. He's so dumb. Dumb enough to get elected Pres of the US.

 

[bamacre]

If Palin gets the nomination in 2012, it proves that Republicans haven't learned one damn thing.

 

[Craig234]

if they really thought palin was a liability, they (libs) would promote her like they did mcCaine..knowing full well mccaine was unelectable.

IMO McCain was not the choice of dems, he was the best candidate they had and it was a tight race just weeks before, McCain leading, when the economic crash gave the election to Obama.

And I think it's a terrible reflectoin on half the nation that the election was as close as it was, it should have been a llandslide.

 

[Robor]

On the topic of approval for doing nothing, I totally agree. Given a full year in office all Obama has managed to do is burden the next generation with debt as the economy continues to tank, unemployment is on the rise and still alienating a majority of the American voters. All this while learning one of the lowest first term presidential approval ratings in history....

As far as Palin, she's been busy doing the same things Obama did prior to becoming president - sell books and campaigning. At least in Palin's case she's not skipping votes in the senate to promote herself while dodging tomatoes thrown by angry liberals with terrible motor skills.

LOL... Spoken like a brain dead Palin supporting real American.

Newsflash: She quit her elected position to cash in on her celebrity status.

 

[Robor]

Here we have Palin, doing nothing but a book tour and the nation is as enraptured, and as polarized, as they were when she went on that Republican Convention stage. She has staying power despite all of the attacks against herself, her values and her family. Palin is talking, everywhere, and people are listening, raptly. And she is now banking the first of millions of dollars of seed money to come, something she could not do as Governor.

Here we have the Republican Party, rebuilding, but without a charismatic face. Still, a Party with the ability to raise tons of money from lots of pissed off people. Still, a Party that can source candidates nationally at every level, though it may not yet have a national strategy. A Party that smells blood and is spoiling for a fight.

Here we have President Obama, within ten months garnering the lowest approval ratings of any President in modern times at this stage in office. An extraordinary decline, a most precipitous decline. He is talking, too, but who is listening any more to the empty suit?

Certainly not the Democrat Congress, spending the country into bankruptcy, with abysmal approval ratings. There are no Rs moving this suicidal legislative agenda. The credit is going to go all to the Ds.

The core of the Democrats, like the unions that were gifted GM, will remain loyal, but the support elsewhere will be weak. So many, promised so much, disappointed by so much - the emotion and the energy drained by dissolution.

Here we have Obama and the Democrat Congress crushing industry, crushing job prospects with massive tax increases on the way, more and more regulatory burdens and huge uncertainties as to the cost of government's policy and agenda.

Businessmen, individually and collectively, contributed huge amounts to follow the perceived winner and hoped against hope that this would be enough to sway the course they feared. Other than Goldie Sachs and few others, their worst nightmares are coming true. They won't contribute to the Democrat coffers for years to come. And not just nationally, but locally as well.

The stage is being set. It may not be Palin but it will someone who likely talks like her and there is not a thing the Democrats can do to stop the train they set into motion.

In 2010 it will be the economy, stupid. In 2012, it will be, in no small part, retribution.

JFC you're a pathetic hack. How much do you get paid to spew your partisan shit?

 

[yuppiejr]

LOL... Spoken like a brain dead Palin supporting real American.

Newsflash: She quit her elected position to cash in on her celebrity status.

Interesting perspective, Obama effectively skipped out on his duties as a Senator to cash in on his celebrity status and get elected president. Pot.. kettle?

 

[Robor]

if they really thought palin was a liability, they (libs) would promote her like they did mcCaine..knowing full well mccaine was unelectable.

LOL... It was Palin that tanked McCain, fool. My father switched his vote to Obama after he saw the vast empty space behind Palin's pretty face. I'd say she might make a good sexy stewardess or librarian but she'd probably ban alcohol on the plane and censor books in the library.

Please and I mean *PLEASE* run Palin for POTUS in 2012.

 

[Robor]

Interesting perspective, Obama effectively skipped out on his duties as a Senator to cash in on his celebrity status and get elected president. Pot.. kettle?

Pot, kettle, fail. Obama campaigned for president just like every POTUS candidate has done in the past and will do in the future. Also, he didn't have any celebrity status prior to running for POTUS. Palin quit her elected position to cash in on a book deal. If you can't see the difference I can't help you.

 

[yuppiejr]

What qualifies Pawlenty for the White House? Does anybody actually think about who they support or they just find a bandwagon to jump on? Pawlenty is worthless.

I find it amazing that anyone would question the qualifications of ANY candidate for president considering the guy currently sitting in the oval office.

As for Pawlenty, I'm not sure where you get "bandwagon" considering I'm actually from MN and have observed his career since Pawlenty has been governor of this state for 2 terms. He's served 5 terms in the state house of representatives including having been selected as house speaker prior to his 2 successful runs for governor in a particularly "blue" state.

As for his record... given the current administration's habit of spending money Pawlenty's willingness to actually force government to live with a balanced budget in his 2 terms as govenor seems like a very resonant message for the American people. He also put forth a program that rewarded high school students in the top 25% of their class with 2 years of free college education, 4 in certain high demand programs (technology and sciences in particular). He has proposed allowing the importation of cheaper prescription drugs from Canada though I'm not sure how I feel about his proposed expansion of MinnesotaCARE.

Contrast this with a president who, when asked, cited his "journey of self discovery to becoming president" as his primary qualification for being president. Prior to that he did an amazing job of self promotion while conducting a book tour for personal gain and campaigning for president even while skipping out on his responsibilities as a senator.

 

[yuppiejr]

Pot, kettle, fail. Obama campaigned for president just like every POTUS candidate has done in the past and will do in the future. Also, he didn't have any celebrity status prior to running for POTUS. Palin quit her elected position to cash in on a book deal. If you can't see the difference I can't help you.

Barak Obama was doing guest appearances on Oprah while promoting "The Audacity of Hope" and conducting national book signings back in 2006 while he was an acting US senator and before formally pursuing a presidential nomination. As senator he failed/refused to vote 25% of the time (mostly as he was absent from his post or afraid to go on record prior to the election) and only managed to get 3 pieces of legislation enacted out of 121 he sponsored.

I guess the difference between Obama and Palin's approach is that Palin had the decency to step out of office to pursue larger personal and political goals. Obama simply let down the people who elected him senator in pursuit of his own personal and political agenda by not performing the duties he was elected to or having the decency to step aside and let someone else fill the void.

 

[Red Dawn]

Arrggh!!! A Black President!!!!! Arrrghh!!!

Fixed for accuracy

 

[yuppiejr]

Fixed for accuracy

Figures, you have no factual basis for refuting my perspective so fall back to the race card. Pathetic. I do not dislike Barak Obama because he is black. I dislike him because he is unqualified and his failures as president were entirely predictable, now my children get to pay for his ineptness.

I was actually sorely disappointed that Colin Powell did not run for president on either ticket in 2004 or 2008, he was my first choice when the rumors of a possible run floated through the ether. He is a far greater person, patriot and leader that has done more in service of his country than Barak Obama can ever hope to achieve.

 

[Ausm]

Approval poll for what? How do you measure approval of someone who doesn't do anything?

Like the Alaska quitter?

 

[Ausm]

Please and I mean *PLEASE* run Palin for POTUS in 2012.

Hell I will even drive around with this bumper sticker on my car

 

[Red Dawn]

Figures, you have no factual basis for refuting my perspective so fall back to the race card. Pathetic. I do not dislike Barak Obama because he is black. I dislike him because he is unqualified and his failures as president were entirely predictable, now my children get to pay for his ineptness.

I was actually sorely disappointed that Colin Powell did not run for president on either ticket in 2004 or 2008, he was my first choice when the rumors of a possible run floated through the ether. He is a far greater person, patriot and leader that has done more in service of his country than Barak Obama can ever hope to achieve.

Ah Bullshit, the guy hasn't even been in office for 10 months and you are already pinning him as the worse president in our history though mostly what he's been doing is trying to unfuck the country from the fucking it took after 8 years of Republicans in the White House.

BTW I actually liked Powell until he fell in with Cheney and his crew and lied to us and the world about Iraq which led to the clusterfuck we are in now.

 

[yuppiejr]

Ah Bullshit, the guy hasn't even been in office for 10 months and you are already pinning him as the worse president in our history though mostly what he's been doing is trying to unfuck the country from the fucking it took after 8 years of Republicans in the White House.

BTW I actually liked Powell until he fell in with Cheney and his crew and lied to us and the world about Iraq which led to the clusterfuck we are in now.

In 10 months he's spent more and increased the deficit more than all presidents before him without accomplishing anything significant, I'd say he's had plenty of time to show his stripes. At this point Obama's domestic spending has fucked us far worse than our obligations in the Iraq war.

As far as Powell - I give him a lot of credit for departing his appointment in the Bush administration gracefully after what happened with Iraq. He didn't just bail or run screaming to the press, he stuck it out and tried to make the best of a bad situation before realizing there simply wasn't a way to reconcile the politics involved with his own morality.

 

[Red Dawn]

In 10 months he's spent more and increased the deficit more than all presidents before him without accomplishing anything significant, I'd say he's had plenty of time to show his stripes. At this point Obama's domestic spending has fucked us far worse than our obligations in the Iraq war.

I don't agree. I believe he had to do what he did to keep us from falling further into a economic morrass. It's way to early to tell how it will play out but that's not stopping you hysterical Monkeybutts from screaming the Sky is falling

As far as Powell - I give him a lot of credit for departing his appointment in the Bush administration gracefully after what happened with Iraq. He didn't just bail or run screaming to the press, he stuck it out and tried to make the best of a bad situation before realizing there simply wasn't a way to reconcile the politics involved with his own morality.

He showed poor judgment just climbing into bed with them just like those who voted for Bush showed poor judgment.

 

[Siddhartha]

Dig bat. I think we had one to many of those for a century. No offense but she's a female Bush who prides herself on ignorance. I usually vote republican don't know why they just seem to have a better line of BS I guess but I won't vote for her.

I see Mr Reagan as being the archteype of this kind of GOP candidate. The only Democrats in the last 60 years, I can think of that are close to this is Johnson and Truman. But they represent what was happening 40 to 60 years ago in the Democratic Party.