Obama Vs. Palin - Palin pulls within one point of Obama

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Did you laugh then as well?
He's made his point - at least with me. Even though she's wholly unqualified, she (or any other similarly [un]qualified candidate) shouldn't be dismissed. moonie is just doing a paul revere and we should probably appreciate it.
 

UberNeuman

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He's made his point - at least with me. Even though she's wholly unqualified, she (or any other similarly [un]qualified candidate) shouldn't be dismissed. moonie is just doing a paul revere and we should probably appreciate it.

I got his point - but you've missed it...
 

nageov3t

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Well, fatass, perhaps you would and perhaps you did but that is just because you are anti.

Perhaps you knew what you were anti about at some point but now you are just anti.
it's not a matter of anti anything, fuckass, just a point to illustrate how useless polls are this early out.

celebrating Obama's low numbers like the OP is doing is stupid when they're going to have an instant rebound once campaigning starts.
 
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it's not a matter of anti anything, fuckass, just a point to illustrate how useless polls are this early out.

celebrating Obama's low numbers like the OP is doing is stupid when they're going to have an instant rebound once campaigning starts.

Well, carry on then.
 

PJABBER

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Here we have Palin, doing nothing but a book tour and the nation is as enraptured, and as polarized, as they were when she went on that Republican Convention stage. She has staying power despite all of the attacks against herself, her values and her family. Palin is talking, everywhere, and people are listening, raptly. And she is now banking the first of millions of dollars of seed money to come, something she could not do as Governor.

Here we have the Republican Party, rebuilding, but without a charismatic face. Still, a Party with the ability to raise tons of money from lots of pissed off people. Still, a Party that can source candidates nationally at every level, though it may not yet have a national strategy. A Party that smells blood and is spoiling for a fight.

Here we have President Obama, within ten months garnering the lowest approval ratings of any President in modern times at this stage in office. An extraordinary decline, a most precipitous decline. He is talking, too, but who is listening any more to the empty suit?

Certainly not the Democrat Congress, spending the country into bankruptcy, with abysmal approval ratings. There are no Rs moving this suicidal legislative agenda. The credit is going to go all to the Ds.

The core of the Democrats, like the unions that were gifted GM, will remain loyal, but the support elsewhere will be weak. So many, promised so much, disappointed by so much - the emotion and the energy drained by dissolution.

Here we have Obama and the Democrat Congress crushing industry, crushing job prospects with massive tax increases on the way, more and more regulatory burdens and huge uncertainties as to the cost of government's policy and agenda.

Businessmen, individually and collectively, contributed huge amounts to follow the perceived winner and hoped against hope that this would be enough to sway the course they feared. Other than Goldie Sachs and few others, their worst nightmares are coming true. They won't contribute to the Democrat coffers for years to come. And not just nationally, but locally as well.

The stage is being set. It may not be Palin but it will someone who likely talks like her and there is not a thing the Democrats can do to stop the train they set into motion.

In 2010 it will be the economy, stupid. In 2012, it will be, in no small part, retribution.
 
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Here we have Palin, doing nothing but a book tour and the nation is as enraptured, and as polarized, as they were when she went on that Republican Convention stage. She has staying power despite all of the attacks against herself, her values and her family. Palin is talking, everywhere, and people are listening, raptly. And she is now banking the first of millions of dollars of seed money to come, something she could not do as Governor.

Here we have the Republican Party, rebuilding, but without a charismatic face. Still, a Party with the ability to raise tons of money from lots of pissed off people. Still, a Party that can source candidates nationally at every level, though it may not yet have a national strategy. A Party that smells blood and is spoiling for a fight.

Here we have President Obama, within ten months garnering the lowest approval ratings of any President in modern times at this stage in office. An extraordinary decline, a most precipitous decline. He is talking, too, but who is listening any more to the empty suit?

Certainly not the Democrat Congress, spending the country into bankruptcy, with abysmal approval ratings. There are no Rs moving this suicidal legislative agenda. The credit is going to go all to the Ds.

The core of the Democrats, like the unions that were gifted GM, will remain loyal, but the support elsewhere will be weak. So many, promised so much, disappointed by so much - the emotion and the energy drained by dissolution.

Here we have Obama and the Democrat Congress crushing industry, crushing job prospects with massive tax increases on the way, more and more regulatory burdens and huge uncertainties as to the cost of government's policy and agenda.

Businessmen, individually and collectively, contributed huge amounts to follow the perceived winner and hoped against hope that this would be enough to sway the course they feared. Other than Goldie Sachs and few others, their worst nightmares are coming true. They won't contribute to the Democrat coffers for years to come. And not just nationally, but locally as well.

The stage is being set. It may not be Palin but it will someone who likely talks like her and there is not a thing the Democrats can do to stop the train they set into motion.

In 2010 it will be the economy, stupid. In 2012, it will be, in no small part, retribution.

I can see the moon from my house.

Clearly i know astronomy.
 

yuppiejr

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If you don't mind my asking, who would you find more suitable as a replacement?

I think Tim Pawlenty may have the right mix of freshness to the national scene along with a strong track record on fiscal conservatism in his tenure as Govenor of MN to do well. Less polarizing than Palin, could use some help from a tailor and I'm not sure where he gets his "green" streak but but I think the substance is there that America will be craving after the never ending Obama campaign tour.

It is an admittedly shallow pool right now, by moving to a centrist/populist platform a lot of the really dedicated and passionate Republicans sidelined themselves which also limited the pool of energizing candidates. Guess we'll see in 2012... guessing Barry, Harry and Nancy are going to muck things up badly enough anyone without a D next to their name should sleepwalk through the election.
 

BoberFett

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I think Tim Pawlenty may have the right mix of freshness to the national scene along with a strong track record on fiscal conservatism in his tenure as Govenor of MN to do well. Less polarizing than Palin, could use some help from a tailor and I'm not sure where he gets his "green" streak but but I think the substance is there that America will be craving after the never ending Obama campaign tour.

What qualifies Pawlenty for the White House? Does anybody actually think about who they support or they just find a bandwagon to jump on? Pawlenty is worthless.
 

nageov3t

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What qualifies Pawlenty for the White House? Does anybody actually think about who they support or they just find a bandwagon to jump on? Pawlenty is worthless.
I believe being above the age of 35 and winning a majority of the electoral college would qualify him for the White House.
 

fskimospy

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Here we have Palin, doing nothing but a book tour and the nation is as enraptured, and as polarized, as they were when she went on that Republican Convention stage. She has staying power despite all of the attacks against herself, her values and her family. Palin is talking, everywhere, and people are listening, raptly. And she is now banking the first of millions of dollars of seed money to come, something she could not do as Governor.

Here we have the Republican Party, rebuilding, but without a charismatic face. Still, a Party with the ability to raise tons of money from lots of pissed off people. Still, a Party that can source candidates nationally at every level, though it may not yet have a national strategy. A Party that smells blood and is spoiling for a fight.

Here we have President Obama, within ten months garnering the lowest approval ratings of any President in modern times at this stage in office. An extraordinary decline, a most precipitous decline. He is talking, too, but who is listening any more to the empty suit?

Certainly not the Democrat Congress, spending the country into bankruptcy, with abysmal approval ratings. There are no Rs moving this suicidal legislative agenda. The credit is going to go all to the Ds.

The core of the Democrats, like the unions that were gifted GM, will remain loyal, but the support elsewhere will be weak. So many, promised so much, disappointed by so much - the emotion and the energy drained by dissolution.

Here we have Obama and the Democrat Congress crushing industry, crushing job prospects with massive tax increases on the way, more and more regulatory burdens and huge uncertainties as to the cost of government's policy and agenda.

Businessmen, individually and collectively, contributed huge amounts to follow the perceived winner and hoped against hope that this would be enough to sway the course they feared. Other than Goldie Sachs and few others, their worst nightmares are coming true. They won't contribute to the Democrat coffers for years to come. And not just nationally, but locally as well.

The stage is being set. It may not be Palin but it will someone who likely talks like her and there is not a thing the Democrats can do to stop the train they set into motion.

In 2010 it will be the economy, stupid. In 2012, it will be, in no small part, retribution.

How can you live in DC and know this little about politics? You would think some of the stupid would have been squeezed out of you by osmosis. Whoever the Republicans run in 2012, they will be nothing like Palin. On the off chance that the Republicans are that dumb, they will get buried yet again.

Of course since it's pretty likely the economy will be doing well in 2012 it probably doesn't matter who the Republicans run, they will get steamrolled by Obama. The Republicans' only chance is to pray for catastrophe.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Jeesh will you repug's lay off the polls already, it's a non election year and the only people participating in polls are pissed off sore loser repug's and nobody gives a rats ass.
 

OrByte

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What's truly sad is as much as you all hate Palin you can't deny that she still has a vastly better resume than the current POTUS. The fact that even with a same party congressional majority that he still can't get any of his major campaign promises delivered is simply pathetic. At least GWB got things done even if they weren't the right or smart things.

Face it, you fell for a marketing campaign by a stuffed shirt with no significant political or business experience who's at the beck and call of every special interest and lobbyist on the planet. He's as bad or worse than George W. Bush, corrupt to the core, just a D after the name and a smoother delivery of pretty speeches. He's a failure as president who's only being propped up by his cult of personality and journalists more interested in kissing the presidential ass than doing their jobs.

We can only hope he doesn't completely flush the country down the toilet before someone qualified replaces him in 2012.

DUDE...she QUIT her OFFICE!!!!

she QUIT

she is a QUITTER...she GAVE UP.

QUITTER

she is a FAILURE.

but feel free to support the FAILURE that is SARAH PALIN.
 

Lemon law

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DUDE...Obama QUIT his OFFICE!!!!
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Well certainly news to me, last time I checked, Obama was still the President of the USA.

But just because Obama does not have delusions of dictatorship is no reason to wonder what Patranus has been smoking all his life.
 

PJABBER

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How can you live in DC and know this little about politics? You would think some of the stupid would have been squeezed out of you by osmosis. Whoever the Republicans run in 2012, they will be nothing like Palin. On the off chance that the Republicans are that dumb, they will get buried yet again.

Of course since it's pretty likely the economy will be doing well in 2012 it probably doesn't matter who the Republicans run, they will get steamrolled by Obama. The Republicans' only chance is to pray for catastrophe.

One of the reasons I enjoy working in DC is that it gives me plenty of business and social opportunity to meet people you see only on TV for seconds at a time. I mostly work for myself so I have plenty of time to follow up on my interests. Not only do I get to chat up many of them, I can get the personal tenor and character of many of the players and supporting cast. DC is really a small town in that way.

While there are many Democrats putting on a brave face, others are looking for the exits.

How about a leading indicator? Right now, for example, more and more Congressional staffers are putting out resumes. They love the work, they love the pomp and the cause, but they know they will not have the same job a year from now.

Right now, and you might be reading about this in your local paper, or the local rag POLITICO, Democrat Congressmen that should be secure in their re-election prospects are considering not running at all. A number have already come out and said they are getting out of the game at the end of this term rather than take the ever increasing risk they will spend lots of money to lose anyway. They have felt the tide change.

I work in finance. I raise money. I talk to a lot of people who need money and I talk to people who have a lot of money. The smart money is angry, very angry. They are going to put their money where it will do the most good and it will not be going to Democrats. I don't even broach the subject. I just ask one of my regular questions, "What do you expect your tax impact is going to be going forward?"

Remember that stupid commercial that had very attractive hetero and homosexual models saying they would not have sex with Republicans (and, coincidentally, the STD rate went up amongst the Dems)? Well, the business people, the entrepreneurs and the shareholders and managers of major corporations paid for a very expensive date with the Democrat leadership that had come on all lovey dovey. The moment the Dems got their election the love went away.

Are you familiar with the Aesop fable, "The Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs?" Do you know the morals of this simple but telling tale?

* Greed destroys the source of good.
* Think before you act.
* Those who want too much lose everything.

It is an old story that many Republicans and Democrats in DC should have remembered. And didn't. The thing is, it is only the Democrats that have got hold of the goose now. They are squeezing it tight and the Democrat axe is falling as we speak.
 
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Well certainly news to me, last time I checked, Obama was still the President of the USA.

But just because Obama does not have delusions of dictatorship is no reason to wonder what Patranus has been smoking all his life.
I think he's referring to the senator job.

Lame, as usual.
 

seemingly random

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One of the reasons I enjoy working in DC is that it gives me plenty of business and social opportunity to meet people you see only on TV for seconds at a time. ...
Yeah, I'll bet that janitorial job puts you in a lot of different offices.