Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Had Pakistan maintained control over their territory, the Taliban would not have been able to establish refuge in it.
That is the key issue. All the other issues are derived from it.
Because Pakistan will not control its territory (either because of collusion or weakness) they are putting themselves in the same position that the Taliban did when choosing to side with AQ.
The Pakistanis are not the target, it is the Taliban. If the Pakistanis allow them to be used as a shield, then who is to blame.
You can blame those that did the attack; but what about those that are complicit and supporting the Taliban. And who allowed the Taliban to set up shop in the area.
Consequences happen because people chose to do things the easy way, not the right way.
Pakistan gives lip service but is unable/unwilling to back up it's words in the fight against the Taliban.
Now the UN has determined that Pakistan will not cooperate and other methods will be used to solve the problem.
Pakistan eventually will have to get off the fence; until they do, then civilians will get caught in deplorable incidents and the propagandists will have a field day.
That again is oppression. Give me one good reason why I should support you in the fight against the Taliban. You came here to uproot Aqlaeeda and find OBL. You couldn't. The fight against the Taliban is just a cover up for something that you couldn't do. Don't get me wrong. The Taliban are evil people. But the US has no right whatsoever fighting them. Now you are threatening us because we won't kill them? I'll say it again - Go to hell a hundred times.
As has been explained to you previously, but one more time.
the US wanted AQ.
the Taliban were protecting AQ.
the Taliban were given an ultimatum to turnover AQ or they would be considered to be supported of AQ and targeted.
The Taliban refused - their bluff was called.
The UN also condemned AQ and then authorized classification of the Taliban as fair game.
Other Muslim countries also backed the UN.
the Taliban were attacked and driven as a governmental body out of Afghanistan.
The Taliban and AQ ran and hid in Iran and Pakistan.
Those that hid in Pakistan have continued to launch attacks against the Afghan people and the NATO forces.
NATO forces have chased the Taliban back into Pakistan where the Taliban have hid among villages and/or taken over villages.
The Taliban have been supported by Pakistani military.
The Taliban are an enemy of the UN world.
Pakistan is supporting an enemy of the UN world by either direct actions or refusal to take action.
Pakistan is playing a dangerous game that WILL backfire on them.
When the US & NATA get pissed off, what the Pakistani people say will not matter.
Pakistan has shown itself to be week and there is no interest in controlling that country.
Hiding behind your nuclear umbrella will only go so far - at some point those nukes will be neutralized if/when needed.