Obama had Trumps phone tapped?

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trenchfoot

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The walls are closing in on Trump and his supporters and there's nowhere else to go except down the flusher. His pathologically induced lies are catching up with him, his apologists are running out of apologies (as ludicrous and shallow as they already are), his tweets are getting more deranged as the pressure on him and his Russian loving friends gets the increasing exposure they never saw coming and Trump has, out of desperation, began picking on Obama again as if Obama is now the primary source of all his problems instead of realizing that he is the source of all his political ills.

Damn, this guy really knows how to bring the stink down on himself.

Just goes to show, when lies and deception are your stock in trade and what gave you the win up front, the gag inducing sulphurous odor emanating from those deceptive vote getting catchy sound bits he tossed out like candy hangs around much longer than the high from the win and then concentrates itself and permeates the air to where it now becomes the focus of attention and..........look at the Trump admin. now.

Still think it was a "really nifty idea" to have this guy, this Russian loving, lie-a-minute, middle class destroying, billionaire President of the rich, for the rich and by the rich as your leader and most powerful person on the face of our ever warming earth?

I guess not, because it seems to me that lies wrapped in pretty paper and lacy bows with the prophesied liberal boogeyman in it is, for a lot of Trump admirers, still much more desirable than clean air, safe food to eat, water with no lead in it, health care for all Americans, a well regulated Wall St. and a prosperous middle class.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Oh. Here's another joke which may have a factual basis.

Betsy Devos wants to cut funding for public schools in the cornpone fly-over-land.

Just . . . What . . . They . . . . NEED!
 

norseamd

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NO, A FISA COURT HAD TRUMPS PHONE TAPPED.

Think about that for a second there, starting to understand the seriousness of the situation we are all in?
 
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BonzaiDuck

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The opinion page. You know the difference between the news section and the opinion section, no?

Actually, I have observed that empirically.

My shit-ass Confederate local newspaper rag publishes a lot more letters from the minority of "Red" voters than they do of the "Blue," while the Blue voters now dominate every county in Southern California.

So a few years back, one of the half-wits writes a letter to the editor referring to an opinion piece as news. "That's news!" she said.

It's not enough to feel ashamed to be an American because of these twiddle-brains among us. It makes you ashamed to be a Human Being.
 

theeedude

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NO, A FISA COURT HAD TRUMPS PHONE TAPPED.

Think about that for a second there, starting to understand the seriousness of the situation we are all in?
FISA court is appointed by SCOTUS, which is run by a Republican chief justice. If they signed off on a warrant to wire tap Trump, there was very likely probable cause that something treasonous was going on.
 

HomerJS

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statement says
Kevin Lewis said that "neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any US citizen".

But remember how this surveillance works once FISA warrant issued content of conversations can be captured. We could target all known Russian contacts and at the same time capture any Trump people on the other side. All legal
 

Commodus

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The hilarious/tragic bit: as far as we can tell, Trump is claiming that Obama ordered a wiretap simply because he saw a story show up on Breitbart. He's literally just waiting for his favorite conspiracy theorists to say something before he makes a claim. I'm curious to know what would happen if Breitbart went under (which it might, as it's losing advertisers). Hope he doesn't lean on InfoWars any more than he does already.

As it is: you know Trump's in trouble when his biggest defense is how the intelligence community collects data against him, rather than whether or not the claims are true. You get the impression that we're just months away (if that) from some truly damning leak that torpedoes Trump's presidency... that is, even a sycophantic Republican party has no choice but to force him to resign.
 

SOFTengCOMPelec

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statement says


But remember how this surveillance works once FISA warrant issued content of conversations can be captured. We could target all known Russian contacts and at the same time capture any Trump people on the other side. All legal

I guess it is a real can of worms here. In that there are so many different possibilities, of what might be false, partly true or even true.

This threads involvement with things the US secret security agencies, may or may not have done is problematic. As it is difficult to obtain specific information (via reliable sources), to confirm it.

Trump should really be providing definitive proof that shows that Obama did this. Until Trump does that (or someone else e.g. his spokesperson). I would be much more inclined to believe anything that Obama says, over Trump.
 

hal2kilo

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NO, A FISA COURT HAD TRUMPS PHONE TAPPED.

Think about that for a second there, starting to understand the seriousness of the situation we are all in?
I have to ask for a link. Not saying that's not really the case though. I haven't seen any positive reporting on that, and it's probably classified if so.
 

Jhhnn

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Drain the swamp is a bait and switch sales pitch

And how. We have the richest Cabinet in History Hell bent on bringing us more of that trickle down goodness we all crave & a cadre of depraved supporters screaming Fuck You Fuck You Fuck You at the rest of America & the world.

With a side of fresh Benghazi courtesy of El Douche! the Magnificent.
 

Jhhnn

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I have to ask for a link. Not saying that's not really the case though. I haven't seen any positive reporting on that, and it's probably classified if so.

Well, Levin & Breitbart claim anonymous sources, the best anonymous sources, so it must be true!
 
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hal2kilo

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Well, Levin & Breitbart claim anonymous sources, the best anonymous sources, so it must be true!
By definition the president can't order a FISA wiretap. So fake news.

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Buffalo Springfield.
 
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Jaskalas

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The hilarious/tragic bit: as far as we can tell, Trump is claiming that Obama ordered a wiretap simply because he saw a story show up on Breitbart. He's literally just waiting for his favorite conspiracy theorists to say something before he makes a claim. I'm curious to know what would happen if Breitbart went under (which it might, as it's losing advertisers). Hope he doesn't lean on InfoWars any more than he does already.

Ugh... man. Unless Trump has and publishes / cites the evidence for his claims...
He is teetering on impeachment for sheer volatility and incompetence at this point. If he is really tweeting over Breitbart "news".
 

Jhhnn

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Ugh... man. Unless Trump has and publishes / cites the evidence for his claims...
He is teetering on impeachment for sheer volatility and incompetence at this point. If he is really tweeting over Breitbart "news".

He's the fucking Commander in Chief. If there were a shred of truth to it his minions would have obtained real records, real evidence for him to de-classify as he sees fit. Trump easily has the power to prove it if true. He won't.
 

Franz316

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Has any psychologist done an analysis of Trump? I'd love to read a full article.

He seems to be seriously unhinged and delusional. I used to think it was just an act for his campaign but obviously it's not. He is not mentally stable, or smart for that matter.
 
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