Obama 60 minutes interview thread

[Hacp]

Guaranteeing my future children health insurance regardless of any medical condition they may be born with is a great thing as well as the other regulations he is imposing on health insurance middle men, I mean companies.

He cut my taxes with the stimulus, and I am seeing a lot of great road work improvements everywhere in my community. He is working on cutting the "waste, fraud and abuse" in Medicare as well as the DoD. The bailout is turning a profit and the American economy is recovering albeit slowly.

I don't think this DRAMATIC level of anti-Obama is warranted in the least.

My 2 cents.

Next, he should guarantee everyone gets 1 million dollars. That'll be an even greater thing.

 

[ProfJohn]

The republicans didn't respond to the "will of the people" who voted for a huge majority in congress and for president in 08. They stood and forced things to a standstill as the country struggled to recover from a recession, all the while pointing the fingers at those in charge. It got them the political capital they needed to take the house. Of course, touting they now have a mandate will make them accountable in the eyes of those same gullible people, even though the Ds still control the senate and the WH.

Help me out, I am having a hard time understanding your post.


In 2008 when the Democrats won 53% of all House votes (popular votes) it was the "Will of the people"

But in 2010 when the Republicans win 52.5% of House votes it isn't the "will of the people"??

Perhaps the true message of 2008 AND 2010 is "quit fucking it up and get it right!"

 

[Bowfinger]

spidey is partialy right. this IS his chance to come out and say we heard you. question i have is he going to say it or blame bush or say he was not clear enough.

he NEEDS to come out and say "we heard you" and promise to take the Dems in a better direction. a direction the people want and not what he thinks is right.

If he does not then 1012 is not going to be pretty for the Dems. he is going to have to fallow Clinton in what he did.

though i do suspect he will blame bush and the media for not getting his message out and stay the course..

Just as we saw last week, what happens in 2012 will depend far more on the economy than anything the Democrats or Republicans do for the next two years. Spidey's delusional hatred notwithstanding, this election was not a mandate for the right or against the left.

Almost every mid-term election sees gains by the party not in the White House. Even more, the majority party inevitably gets smacked during economic downturns. Given that this is the worst economy since the Great Depression, it's really not a big surprise the majority Democrats took the biggest beating seen since those days.

Are Americans unhappy with Democrats? Hell yes. They're afraid of losing their jobs, their homes, their way of life. The Dems didn't wave a magic wand and make it all better, so they're bearing the brunt of Americans' fears. Polls show Americans aren't really much happier with Republicans, however, with the Republican Congress rated even lower than Dems last time I checked. The simple fact is Americans are unhappy with Washington and politics in general. In that climate, incumbents take a beating.

 

[manimal]

Yeah but I anit telling anyone. They think I;m crazy enough.

I think spidey needs a prescription for a dispensary in California... then again some people are crazy enough already...



reminds of a dead show I was at in 94, a friend had a out of town friend who tagged along for his first dead show.....


we found him the next day naked and crying in woods...

 

[Red Dawn]

Lulz, I made out like a bandit on Breeder's Cup. 10 across on a 35-1 horse in the 8th I believe. Plus betting against Zenyatta made me serious money. If your really are that stupid search "breeders" with my name.

No rage here.

No just a twisted deviate. Yeah I've read your posts in L&R.

 

[HendrixFan]

Help me out, I am having a hard time understanding your post.


In 2008 when the Democrats won 53% of all House votes (popular votes) it was the "Will of the people"

But in 2010 when the Republicans win 52.5% of House votes it isn't the "will of the people"??

Perhaps the true message of 2008 AND 2010 is "quit fucking it up and get it right!"

I agree totally. My point was the republicans didn't agree there was a "will of the people" after the Ds took both houses in congress and the WH. They fought against the "will of the people" by fighting against those that were strongly put into place by the people.

Honestly, there is nothing wrong with the Rs fighting the Ds. Those that did get elected were there to do so. If Obama wasn't so impotent he could have wielded his majority to get stuff done, with or without the Rs.

 

[ScottFern]

Next, he should guarantee everyone gets 1 million dollars. That'll be an even greater thing.

LOL, yeah totally a valid parallel. Every other country in the modernized western world can figure out how to provide top tier healthcare to their citizens but us and it is almost criminal.

Going to the ER for a ruptured appendix shouldn't bankrupt us nor should having to figure out if we can eat this month or pay our healthcare premiums.

My PPO going up 15-25% each year is working out brilliantly!

Don't equate essential healthcare with giving everyone in the U.S.A. a free plasma tv.

 

[CallMeJoe]

LOL, yeah totally a valid parallel...

If Hacp ever gets out of his folks' basement and gets a job, he might be able to afford a clue. Lord knows he hasn't been able to acquire one so far.

 

[Hacp]

LOL, yeah totally a valid parallel. Every other country in the modernized western world can figure out how to provide top tier healthcare to their citizens but us and it is almost criminal.

Going to the ER for a ruptured appendix shouldn't bankrupt us nor should having to figure out if we can eat this month or pay our healthcare premiums.

My PPO going up 15-25% each year is working out brilliantly!

Don't equate essential healthcare with giving everyone in the U.S.A. a free plasma tv.

Why shouldn't going to the ER not bankrupt you? Like anything else in the world, if you can't afford something, you shouldn't get it. If you can't afford hospital care, then too fucking bad.

 

[RampantAndroid]

The republicans didn't respond to the "will of the people" who voted for a huge majority in congress and for president in 08. They stood and forced things to a standstill as the country struggled to recover from a recession, all the while pointing the fingers at those in charge. It got them the political capital they needed to take the house. Of course, touting they now have a mandate will make them accountable in the eyes of those same gullible people, even though the Ds still control the senate and the WH.

Last I checked, they fought for the health care bill not going through - they didn't need to and should not have been bending to the people there. People were against it the whole way, Pelosi and Obama rammed it through. Obama reacting to losing an election and the republicans standing thier ground are two very different things. They were more than willing to reform our medical system. As for fighting it to a standstill...uhh, sorry - but requesting that the senators ACTUALLY *(&#ING READ WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON SEEMS LEGIT.

Having the house means MORE than having the senate, or the WH. The house is where all the spending bills come from. If I had to chose any place to hold to get things done, it'd be the house ANY day.

 

[LumbergTech]

Why shouldn't going to the ER not bankrupt you? Like anything else in the world, if you can't afford something, you shouldn't get it. If you can't afford hospital care, then too fucking bad.

you are a vile..thankfully our country will NEVER adopt your opinion as policy

for all your egotistical fervor, your ideas are radical and no one will buy into it

 

[her209]

If Hacp ever gets out of his folks' basement and gets a job, he might be able to afford a clue. Lord knows he hasn't been able to acquire one so far.

IIRC, Hacp doesn't live in his folks' basement. He does steal his roommate's ice cream though.

 

[HendrixFan]

Last I checked, they fought for the health care bill not going through - they didn't need to and should not have been bending to the people there. People were against it the whole way, Pelosi and Obama rammed it through. Obama reacting to losing an election and the republicans standing thier ground are two very different things. They were more than willing to reform our medical system. As for fighting it to a standstill...uhh, sorry - but requesting that the senators ACTUALLY *(&#ING READ WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON SEEMS LEGIT.

Having the house means MORE than having the senate, or the WH. The house is where all the spending bills come from. If I had to chose any place to hold to get things done, it'd be the house ANY day.

I was talking about more than just the health care bill that they stymied. With the health care bill, polls at the time showed most people agreed with parts of the bill when asked specifically, but public opinion was against it as a whole because the Rs did a great job of scaring people away from it. My other paragraph that you snipped agrees with the fact that Rs stood their ground. I have no problem with that, and if Obama was even partially useful as a President he would have used his supermajority to get his own party in line. He couldn't do that, and it was little surprise he couldn't win over any Rs either.

 

[trenchfoot]

I was talking about more than just the health care bill that they stymied. With the health care bill, polls at the time showed most people agreed with parts of the bill when asked specifically, but public opinion was against it as a whole because the Rs did a great job of scaring people away from it. My other paragraph that you snipped agrees with the fact that Rs stood their ground. I have no problem with that, and if Obama was even partially useful as a President he would have used his supermajority to get his own party in line. He couldn't do that, and it was little surprise he couldn't win over any Rs either.

So true.

BTW, liking your rig. Nice setup.

 

[JSt0rm]

Why shouldn't going to the ER not bankrupt you? Like anything else in the world, if you can't afford something, you shouldn't get it. If you can't afford hospital care, then too fucking bad.

 

[manimal]

Why shouldn't going to the ER not bankrupt you? Like anything else in the world, if you can't afford something, you shouldn't get it. If you can't afford hospital care, then too fucking bad.

I challenge you to go work a soup kitchen for a a few days and spend some time with the poor. I have read to many of your statements like this in these forums and I always wonder what kind of road you have traveled. If we stop caring for our fellow man where does that leave us as a people or as a country.

 

[Throckmorton]

I was talking about more than just the health care bill that they stymied. With the health care bill, polls at the time showed most people agreed with parts of the bill when asked specifically, but public opinion was against it as a whole because the Rs did a great job of scaring people away from it. My other paragraph that you snipped agrees with the fact that Rs stood their ground. I have no problem with that, and if Obama was even partially useful as a President he would have used his supermajority to get his own party in line. He couldn't do that, and it was little surprise he couldn't win over any Rs either.

I call bullshit. There was never a Democratic supermajority. Do you realize Lieberman threatened to filibuster if there was a public option in the Senate bill?

 

[LumbergTech]

I call bullshit. There was never a Democratic supermajority. Do you realize Lieberman threatened to filibuster if there was a public option in the Senate bill?

o snap he pulled the dino card

 

[HendrixFan]

I call bullshit. There was never a Democratic supermajority. Do you realize Lieberman threatened to filibuster if there was a public option in the Senate bill?

They could have used the nuclear option. They didn't have their big boy pants on though, so they were scared to use it.

 

[Generator]

Its all going just as planned for Obama. This whole week with the pouty face and the "oh shucks I got a shellacking." Its a hustle dumb fucks. You fucking Republican trash...he throwing you a bone, but it don't mean shit. He hasn't learned anything from you morons lol...

Like there is anything to learn from racists. After this latest election, the right wing better go back to the drawing board. From Obama's own words the best part of politics for him is campaigning. Now I sincerely believe there is a possibility Obama may not run again. But if he is we will know soon enough. Expect a full 1 year campaign blitz at least!

 

[dmcowen674]

Help me out, I am having a hard time understanding your post.


In 2008 when the Democrats won 53% of all House votes (popular votes) it was the "Will of the people"

But in 2010 when the Republicans win 52.5% of House votes it isn't the "will of the people"??

Perhaps the true message of 2008 AND 2010 is "quit fucking it up and get it right!"

You got that right.

All it shows was that they are tossing incumbents out on their asses.

Which is the way it should be.

There should be term limits.

 

[Hacp]

I challenge you to go work a soup kitchen for a a few days and spend some time with the poor. I have read to many of your statements like this in these forums and I always wonder what kind of road you have traveled. If we stop caring for our fellow man where does that leave us as a people or as a country.

You can care for your fellow man if you want. Just don't force others to.

 

[dmcowen674]

Quote:
Originally Posted by manimal
I challenge you to go work a soup kitchen for a a few days and spend some time with the poor. I have read to many of your statements like this in these forums and I always wonder what kind of road you have traveled. If we stop caring for our fellow man where does that leave us as a people or as a country.

You can care for your fellow man if you want. Just don't force others to.

You are going to be forced to do a whole lot more.

 

[sportage]

Pres Obama needs some life altering event to take place to wake him up.
He follows the book and has trouble with theory vs reality.
He rationalizes everything with his reason, when often reason has nothing to do with it.
And by now after all this time, it looks like he still has his head stuck in the book.
He will never succeed with getting his message across and getting people to fall in line behind him. And at this point I doubt he is re elected in 2012. Especially if the republicans can come up with a good candidate. And I don't mean Palin or Romney.

Young people helped get Obama elected in 2008. After Nov 2 2010, it looks like they have gone offline again, as is their normal. Electing the first black president was history making and people wanted to see and be part of that history.
In 2012 Obama will just be someone running for re election. No Novelty. No history making. Jimmy Carter knows well how that works.

 

[mrCide]

I remember when Spidey was hanging out in OT talking about working on his MCSE. When does the transition from normal working American to complete psychopath happen?