nVIDIA PRICE DROP-7800GTX512 $399, 7900GT $299, 7900GTX512 $499

[moonboy403]

why don't all of you shut up

is that neutral enough?

 

[beggerking]

Yes.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: yacoub

Originally posted by: beggerking
damn you Mathia, where is your comments on Joker? you seem to blame everything to me ..Why? because you are ProAti as was joker.

If you have a bias, then you should step out rather than to "try" to be the mediator.

Look, you posted the trollish bait, he called you out on it. That doesn't make him wrong. Clearly you still can't drop it though...

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Begger, are you stupid or just trolling? You're counting tests that don't utilize AA/AF at low resolution as wins? The XBit review is older and uses crappy games like Snowblind, WarHammer and Pacific Fighters.

Joker posted trollish bait, I called Joker out. That doesn't make me wrong , correct?
clearly, you and Mathia are just too biased to call on Joker , so you guys called on me.

why don't you, yourself, drop it? Its none of you, or Mathias' business unless you consider yourself biased. Are you? If not, then DROP IT!

Begger - when are you going to get it through your thick skull that you're not convincing anyone? You tried convicing people here that low resolution results with no AA/AF matter for high end cards and failed. I wish someone would burn your tree already.

 

[Ackmed]

Yes, I do consider myself bias. I like ATi more. That doesnt mean I wont use nVidia, as I am right now, three times over.

I dont know why you cant admit you are bias begger, its pretty obvious. There isnt anything wrong with having a bias, I think everyone is to some extent. Oh well, we all can see yours, no matter if you admit it or not.

 

[moonboy403]

dude!...stop flaming each other

it's getting old

we all have already derailed the thread enough
let's move on or take this to pm shall we?

 

[moonboy403]

obvious bias list (in this thread):

ati: RobertR1, munky, ackmed, and above all----*drum rolls*---5150Joker

nvidia: beggerking

am i bias?

 

[beggerking]

Moonboy403, do you see now why this flaming keeps going on and on?
I agreed with you that we should all drop it, right away he starts it again.

Joker, I never tried to convince people about low res results, don't put your assumption in my mouth. I was simply stating ALL data available, not "just the data you want to see" and immediately you attacked me. you must not be very smart btw if you rather see a "partial bench" rather than the "whole bench".

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Yes, I do consider myself bias. I like ATi more. That doesnt mean I wont use nVidia, as I am right now, three times over.

I dont know why you cant admit you are bias begger, its pretty obvious. There isnt anything wrong with having a bias, I think everyone is to some extent. Oh well, we all can see yours, no matter if you admit it or not.

if you consider yourself biased that is fine with me. I don't consider myself biased in this matter, so I don't have to "admit?" to anything. Obviously you are seeing me as biased because you are biased yourself. Try broaden your point of view and perhaps you will see me as neutral.

The point is, its okay to be biased, but not okay to flame others because of other's bias. I was simply comparing data (from 2 websites) when Joker came out and attacked me, only because I was consider "all benchs" rather than only "partial bench"aka high res with AA/AF that he would liked to see.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: moonboy403
obvious bias list (in this thread):

ati: RobertR1, munky, ackmed, and above all----*drum rolls*---5150Joker

nvidia: beggerking

am i bias?

I'm biased because I let begger know that nobody buys a $500+ card to run it at 1024x768 no AA/AF? If you were in the market for an X1900 XT/512 GTX/7900 GTX, would you care about the 1024x768 no AA/AF results in today's games? I didn't think so. Begger tried to chalk up the few wins nVidia got with the aforementioned results as meaningful data - he was grasping at straws as usual.

BTW boogerking, I didn't attack you. I just called you what I feel you are, a moron. I mean, if you claim you're not biased, then that's the only other explanation.

 

[moonboy403]

to be honest, i really thought beggerking was just presenting the data

he didn't necessarily deemed the data as meaningful

just merely PRESENTING them

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: moonboy403
to be honest, i really thought beggerking was just presenting the data

he didn't necessarily deemed the data as meaningful

just merely PRESENTING them

Go back a few pages and re-read what he wrote. He said the X1900/512 GTX were about "split" in the Nordic review because he was trying to lend credibility to the low resolution results. He then took it a step further and quoted other results with the same kind of nonsense logic.

 

[moonboy403]

split as in number wise maybe??

 

[ArchAngel777]

YAWN... I wonder what everyone would say of my BIAS? I laughed the last time someone accused me of being an ATI fan boy... Yet at the same time, I have much respect for ATI. I guess you could call me a fair wethered fan. Because I simply have a bias for the company that has the best card out at the time of my purchase!

Right now, ATI makes the best high end card... But nVidia makes the best medium end card due to price. With this new price drop, I am not sure what to think. But since I am not planning to purchase another video card for a while, I guess it does not matter so much.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: moonboy403
obvious bias list (in this thread):

ati: RobertR1, munky, ackmed, and above all----*drum rolls*---5150Joker

nvidia: beggerking

am i bias?

I'm biased because I let begger know that nobody buys a $500+ card to run it at 1024x768 no AA/AF? If you were in the market for an X1900 XT/512 GTX/7900 GTX, would you care about the 1024x768 no AA/AF results in today's games? I didn't think so. Begger tried to chalk up the few wins nVidia got with the aforementioned results as meaningful data - he was grasping at straws as usual.

BTW boogerking, I didn't attack you. I just called you what I feel you are, a moron. I mean, if you claim you're not biased, then that's the only other explanation.

you call this "letting know"?

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Begger, are you stupid or just trolling? You're counting tests that don't utilize AA/AF at low resolution as wins? The XBit review is older and uses crappy games like Snowblind, WarHammer and Pacific Fighters.

anyways, mod notified.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: moonboy403
split as in number wise maybe??

Thank you. Yes. exactly what I meant. I have no idea what he took the word split as..?..
I also agreed that XTX is the better buy..

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: beggerking
mod notified.

The irony! You are in for a big surprise.

 

[moonboy403]

okay, there you have it

maybe we should all just settle down and back away from flaming each other again

 

[beggerking]

ok. Let me try backing down again..
and to dingo: no surprise.

 

[moonboy403]

well...what do you say joker?

beggerking has agreed on backing down

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: moonboy403
well...what do you say joker?

beggerking has agreed on backing down

Dunno why you're asking me? I dropped it a long time ago until he decided to bring it up again.

 

[moonboy403]

k...finally...the war is officially over

thank you all for backing down :thumbsup:

 

[beggerking]

Thank you moonboy for settling this.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: RobertR1

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: RobertR1
2x 7800GT will also out perform a 7900GTX so why even release a 7900GTX?

A 100mhz gain on core but a 150mhz loss on the bandwidth won't give a lot of performance esp. with AA turned up. When the x1800xt was priced WAY better than the 7800GTX 512, I don't remember you waving the "better pricing" flag? Look at how well the x1800xt keeps up with the 7800GTX 512 in that nordic review.

The 7900 GTX is useful in itself because it extend the top end even further, it at parity I would say with 7800 GT SLI, and enables 7900 GTX SLI, which should ensure a new level of top level performance for 2 Cards in SLI Mode.

As well that is a 100MHZ gain on Core and 100MHZ loss in memory as the differences is between 1700MHZ on 7800 GTX 512 & 1600MHZ on 7900 GTX. The 18% Fillrate increase should have quite a performance impact, but it's obviously less then the 7800 GTX 256 to 512 differences, but what Nvidia is addressing this time around is making available for everyone and not have cards so gouged in pricing.

He keeps stating that a 7800GT sli is better setup than x1900xt but following his logic a 7800GT Sli would also be better than a 7900GTX so I don't see his point.

Fillrate won't matter with AA turned up. The lack of bandwidth will be the bottleneck unless they redid their AA and made it efficient.

Um... robert read what i posted. The 7900GTX will have the MSRP of $499. The 7900GT will have $299. Logic tells me that 7900GT SLi will cost $599~. The 7900GTX is 100 dollars cheaper than the 7900GT SLI.

I was also pointing out 7900GT SLI not 7800GT SLi. The 7900GT is similiar to a 7800GTX OC (450/1300).

Plus i only posted the performance of the 7800GTX512mb as a reference to what the upcoming 7900GTX might be like. Since what we know as of now, a 7800GTX512 is a 7900GTX clocked at 550mhz. (Unless it has something else done to its architecture.) The X1800XT indeed keeps up, but is ~8% slower generally unless you want to do the maths for me.

Then you have 7900GTX SLi for $799 which will look much more favorable compared to any X1900 series crossfire due to the price/performance. Then you have your upper high end market (1000 and up market) where people might consider X1900XTor XTX crossfire, but then you have 7900GT quad SLi within the same price range. Then further up, you have 7900GTX quad SLi. From that point of view, NV will totally dominated the high end market if those MSRPs are true.

 

[moonboy403]

since these cards are on 90nm

shouldn't they oc like mad especially for the 7900 gt?

i mean, if 7900 gtx is able to clock up to 650, shouldn't the gt be able to clock to AT LEAST somewhere in the neighborhood of say 580?

 

[Cookie Monster]

Yeh, there rumours these cards will OC like mad. Remember rumours of G71 being 800mhz? it might be possible given what cooler the card is using. Vmod etc.