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Blain

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Blain
Originally posted by: crimson117
I think Dream Rigs threads are fun.

As long as the poster mentions the parts-picking is just for fun, or just for a dream rig, I don't have any problem. Nor do I think it mucks up the forums.
You don't think there's any "mucking up" going on when they constitute 1/3 of the total threads in a forum?

mucking up?

okey i the parts i recomend to people who ask overclocking in there objectives are solid overclockers.

Its not my fault if the nicer stuff have more stability behind it. I dont think a computer is something cheap you slap together. If it was you'd buy a Dell.

Now when a person asks for a custom advice, and i see the words overclocking. I try to piece out the most stable parts i have had contact with. Sometimes those parts maybe a little bit pricey, but there known stability.

Why do you think people spend more money on server parts then desktop parts? The stability behind them means a lot.

So my recient recomendations for high end computers which usually involves a DQ6, Crucial ram, and a big psu. Thats the generic combo i use on my rigs when stability matters.

If you guys never folded or WCG'd b4, i recomend you try it out for a month and see how long your parts last. As for me, my combinations are all solid and can hold folding or WCG for months without a hic up.

Lastly, i think the corsair psu is a great psu. A lot of people have been flaming me because i recomend the Antec Quattro 850. They say its overkill and what not. But, if you read the reviews on the 850, the stability thoughout the rails was enough for jonnyguru to even be suprised. This was the main sell point on the psu for me.

Its not to overpower my rig, but its ment for rock solid stability at overclock settings.


So if a person has the budget, and they want to spend a bit more for stability as insurence, whats wrong with that?
What in the world does your reply have to do with the issue quoted? :shocked:

 

geokilla

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Lately, there's been lots of help me build a computer thread, and the price difference from these threads are like $100 at most. Why don't people read the other computer building threads first, so they'll have a good idea of what parts they should get.
 

JackMDS

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1. People do not like to read. :(

2. People like personal attention.:heart:

So it is a cultural issue, and since it does not hurt anyone, it is tolerated.:beer:

 

Blain

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Originally posted by: JackMDS
1. People do not like to read. :(

2. People like personal attention.:heart:
Everything in me wants to believe differently, but in the end I'm forced to say...
You Are Correct Sir! :laugh:

 

bob4432

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please add - if a gaming build, inform as to what resolution and what games
 

rodrigu3

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what really sucks is when someone doesn't do any homework themselves, gives you a budget and expects you to just do all the work for them - that's definitely the worst; I don't mind when someone asks specific questions on parts or needs a little help deciding options - otherwise people should do research on builds (technology, specifications, benchmark performance, compatibility, etc.) before asking people to build a computer for them
 

Blain

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Originally posted by: rodrigu3
what really sucks is when someone doesn't do any homework themselves, gives you a budget and expects you to just do all the work for them - that's definitely the worst;
AnandTech Tech Support / Personal Assistants :laugh:

 

tommullie

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Speaking as one of the noobs who keeps asking for advice, its difficult to know many of the things you asked for. Research is a must, and I see how it is annoying to have to question for hours to find out the basics, but if we knew what we were doing, we wouldn't be here. And besides, ultimately these are subjective choices. the relative merits of an e6850 and a q6600 are debatable. Personal advice is more valuable than any article. the budget question and any specifics for components are often beyond us when we get started, even if we had researched. This forum is a great place for new builders, and I've figured out the final specs for my build based on your advice, but in the beginning, we're just not very good at this, so pelase excuse our mistakes.

Oh, and a separate forum to post builds would be a great idea. Unclog the designated forums for their own purposes.
 

Blain

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Originally posted by: tommullie
Oh, and a separate forum to post builds would be a great idea. Unclog the designated forums for their own purposes.
The "General Hardware" forum has become the "Help me build..." forum.
The official name hasn't been changed yet. :p

 

JackMDS

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The most interesting thing that developed in our society is playing with words, in part it happened because of 24/7 News channel they need to keep going so they create News out of nothing by playing with words.

Therefore, I can do it too :D

These are the topics under Hardware and Technology forums.

? CPUs and Overclocking
? Motherboards
? Video Cards and Graphics
? System Memory and NVRAM
? Power Supplies
? Cases & Cooling
? SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones PCs
? Networking
? Peripherals
? General Hardware
? Highly Technical
? Computer Help

Building a new computer cuts across all of these Forums, so it is a General issue in Hardware, hence being in General Hardware can be considered highly appropriate.

I see this forum as a jumping Point, once it helped someone to orient himself and get the basic, one can go to the CPUs and Overclocking, Motherboards, Video Cards and Graphics. Etc. to fine-tune his choices.

Sure, it takes time. If one does not want to invest in time, one can always invest in his local Computer store. ;)
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: JackMDS
24/7 News channel
Kind of OT, but I get a kick when during an interview, the talking head says they have to wrap up since they're out of time. Out of time on a 24 hour news channel...


From what I can see the Anandtech forums do evolve. This excellent sticky is an example of this. It seems robust enough in that it requests all pertinent info but could maybe use a different organization to make it more convenient to use. For example, there could be one part that gives explanations of the needed info and another part that is a simple form that the inquirer can cut and paste to a new topic.

The explanation could also briefly describe the other categories in case one is more appropriate. For the long time user, it seems obvious but for the uninitiated it can be intimidating.
 

Noobtastic

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Originally posted by: Blain
PLEASE when POST threads asking for input on system builds tell us...

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

The above information IS NEEDED, in order that WE can help YOU make wise judgments on YOUR purchases :laugh:

delete post - testing.
 

ultimatebob

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Wow... we're making people fill out application forms for system build advice now? That's hardcore!

Do you think that we can start charging "consulting fees" as well? ;)
 

Blain

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Wow... we're making people fill out application forms for system build advice now? That's hardcore!

Do you think that we can start charging "consulting fees" as well?
You're missing the whole point.
The point is to focus build questions on specifics that help both builders and members cut down on wasting time.
Many "Help me build a..." threads are too general and take several posts and replies just to get to the meat of what a builder really needs and/or what would be best for his specific usage.

 

Zefram0911

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1. This is for my buddy with a kid. It's general Gaming PC with normal tasks.

2. $400 - $500.

3. USA baby

4. I'm an Intel and ASUS fanboy

5. All from scratch, except the OS. I think he has Vista 32bit

6. Searched, already got some thoughts.

7. This is a budget box... gotta OC the hell out of it.
 

NinjaJedi

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Originally posted by: Blain
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Wow... we're making people fill out application forms for system build advice now? That's hardcore!

Do you think that we can start charging "consulting fees" as well?
You're missing the whole point.
The point is to focus build questions on specifics that help both builders and members cut down on wasting time.
Many "Help me build a..." threads are too general and take several posts and replies just to get to the meat of what a builder really needs and/or what would be best for his specific usage.

I agree that for the general "building a PC" thread having a list like this to help out would be a good thing. But no one is forcing anyone to waste time helping someone. Why does it really bother everyone so much?
 

Zap

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8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

I think this is important because someone asking for information NOW about something they plan to build in SIX MONTHS (to give an example) can have two types of answers. 1) Such-and-such new part is coming out or will price drop so wait until XX/XX/XXXX. 2) Information given out now may no longer be the best/valid by then.

I actually come across this in RL quite a bit.

THEM: "Hey Zap, what parts should I get for my upgrade/new rig?"

ME: "You should get..."

THEM: "Okay, I'll keep that in mind when I have the money in 3/4/5/6 months."

ME: "WTF you just wasted my time!"
 

hokahknow

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Originally posted by: Blain

Maybe the AT forums should add yet another...
"Advise/Rate my build" forum :thumbsup::laugh:

Yep good idea. Then all of the dreamers can help each other.