Like I said, there's enough evidence that he's always been a sociopath. I'm not going to give him any implied pass based on (early onset) dementia. Not to mention he said that when Ivanka was a teenager, so that's in the late 1990s or so. Trump's no slobbering buffoon, he tells you exactly what's on his lizard brain because he has no filter.
nakedfrog
No Lifer
- Apr 3, 2001
- 58,161
- 12,339
- 136
If you go by the count on wikipedia, we tallied 604 mass shootings for 2023.
Pens1566
Lifer
- Oct 11, 2005
- 11,594
- 8,049
- 136
Pohemi
Diamond Member
- Oct 2, 2004
- 8,885
- 11,423
- 146
Yep. Dangerous combination of affluenza and indifference to their child.
Prosecutor uses texts to try to show mom of school shooter cared more about horses than son
Prosecutors are portraying the mother of a Michigan school shooter as an aloof parent more interested in horses than the mental health of her teenage son.
apnews.com
Pohemi
Diamond Member
- Oct 2, 2004
- 8,885
- 11,423
- 146
Iowa promised $75 million for school safety. Two shootings later, the money is largely unspent
Iowa's Republican governor announced in June 2022 that the state would use $75 million in federal pandemic relief funds to add security measures at schools.
apnews.com
'Citing an urgent need to act after Uvalde and shootings outside a high school and a church in Iowa, Gov. Kim Reynolds said the state would award up to $50,000 each to 1,500 schools to fix vulnerabilities. Like many other Republicans, she rebuffed calls for stricter gun control while embracing efforts to “harden” schools.
More than 19 months and two deadly Iowa school shootings later, the money only recently started to trickle out, with the vast majority still unspent in part due to bureaucratic delays by local and state officials, according to records reviewed by The Associated Press. Contractors helping run the program, meanwhile, have received millions.
The AP found that most schools statewide have yet to receive funding, including those in Perry, a city of 8,000 people where a Jan. 4 school shooting left two dead and several injured. A state agency last week sent a representative to help Perry district officials finish their application for a $150,000 grant through Reynolds’ program, a process they started more than a year ago.'
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Wow. Push alternatives to any kind of gun control changes, then don't follow through on the suggested alternatives. Typical rethuglicvnt playbook.
And what do you want to bet those "contractors" handling the program are somehow connected to the state officials who hired them? This is so ridiculous, but hey it's Iowa so...not shocked.
- Jan 2, 2001
- 24,987
- 4,325
- 136
Jennifer Crumbley, mother of the then 15 yr-old who killed 4 and wounded 7 in Michigan school shooting in 2021 has been tried for 4 counts of involuntary homicide and found guilty on all 4 counts.
She faces up to 15 years in prison, and her sentencing hearing was set for April 9.
Her husband, father of the shooter goes on trial next month.
This was one case where I believe they both are guilty. She even said at the trial that she wouldn't have done anything differently. A real peach of a mom.
She faces up to 15 years in prison, and her sentencing hearing was set for April 9.
Her husband, father of the shooter goes on trial next month.
This was one case where I believe they both are guilty. She even said at the trial that she wouldn't have done anything differently. A real peach of a mom.
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Pohemi
Diamond Member
- Oct 2, 2004
- 8,885
- 11,423
- 146
Yeah it seems like there was a lot of indifference, indignance, and self-righteousness displayed by her during her trial. No sympathy from me, I hope she gets the maximum sentence.
pete6032
Diamond Member
- Dec 3, 2010
- 7,485
- 3,041
- 136
I think this might be the fastest I have ever seen a person age.
Late 2022:
Early 2024:
Late 2022:
Early 2024:
Indus
Diamond Member
- May 11, 2002
- 9,967
- 6,563
- 136
I think this might be the fastest I have ever seen a person age.
Late 2022:
Early 2024:
That guy that shot and killed Chris Kyle was like that too..
Totally different images just a few years apart.
Paratus
Lifer
- Jun 4, 2004
- 16,682
- 13,436
- 146
Houston police investigating motive of woman killed after opening fire at Joel Osteen’s megachurch
Authorities identified the gunwoman as Genesse Ivonne Moreno. The 7-year-old accompanying her remains in critical condition after also being shot.
www.texastribune.org
A female shooter opened fire on Sunday afternoon at pastor Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Houston, which has one of the nation’s largest congregations. She was fatally shot by off-duty officers. No one else at the church died.
She came in with a 4-5 year old who was shot in the crossfire with off duty officers.
So we know what gets said about school shootings. What do we say about church shootings?
If only there had been thoughts and prayers?
When you take Jesus out of the church this is what happens?
Evangelical Church shootings are a small price to pay for the freedom of the 2nd amendment?
Fenixgoon
Lifer
- Jun 30, 2003
- 31,589
- 9,971
- 136
They'll say thank god the off duty officers were there.Houston police investigating motive of woman killed after opening fire at Joel Osteen’s megachurch
Authorities identified the gunwoman as Genesse Ivonne Moreno. The 7-year-old accompanying her remains in critical condition after also being shot.
A female shooter opened fire on Sunday afternoon at pastor Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Houston, which has one of the nation’s largest congregations. She was fatally shot by off-duty officers. No one else at the church died.
She came in with a 4-5 year old who was shot in the crossfire with off duty officers.
So we know what gets said about school shootings. What do we say about church shootings?
If only there had been thoughts and prayers?
When you take Jesus out of the church this is what happens?
Evangelical Church shootings are a small price to pay for the freedom of the 2nd amendment?
ch33zw1z
Lifer
- Nov 4, 2004
- 37,768
- 18,046
- 146
Then lord works in mysterious ways (as long as it’s not my kid!)
- Jan 2, 2001
- 24,987
- 4,325
- 136
Philly becoming hard on teens - 11 shot so far in last few days.
Monday - 3 students and 2 women shot at bus stop. 1 teen dead.
Wednesday - 8 students shot while waiting for a bus after school. So far no deaths, but one was shot 9 times.
In the video of the second shooting (which took about 10 seconds), the 3 shooters look like teens as well and they shot about 30 times in those 10 seconds.
Yeah, but, we need those gun rights.
Monday - 3 students and 2 women shot at bus stop. 1 teen dead.
Wednesday - 8 students shot while waiting for a bus after school. So far no deaths, but one was shot 9 times.
In the video of the second shooting (which took about 10 seconds), the 3 shooters look like teens as well and they shot about 30 times in those 10 seconds.
Yeah, but, we need those gun rights.
- Jan 2, 2001
- 24,987
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And now the Crumbley dad has been found guilty of manslaughter. "Four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a charge that carries a maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison, which would run concurrently."
The mother was found guilty of the same in Feb and the son Ethan is already serving a life sentence for the 2021 Michigan school shootings.
And now, the family that crimes together gets sentenced together. Both mother and father are scheduled to be sentenced on April 9. I sincerely hope they get the max.
www.cnn.com
The mother was found guilty of the same in Feb and the son Ethan is already serving a life sentence for the 2021 Michigan school shootings.
And now, the family that crimes together gets sentenced together. Both mother and father are scheduled to be sentenced on April 9. I sincerely hope they get the max.
James Crumbley, father of Michigan school shooter, found guilty
James Crumbley, the father of the teenager who killed four students at a Michigan high school in 2021, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.
And now the Crumbley dad has been found guilty of manslaughter. "Four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a charge that carries a maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison, which would run concurrently."
The mother was found guilty of the same in Feb and the son Ethan is already serving a life sentence for the 2021 Michigan school shootings.
And now, the family that crimes together gets sentenced together. Both mother and father are scheduled to be sentenced on April 9. I sincerely hope they get the max.
James Crumbley, father of Michigan school shooter, found guilty
James Crumbley, the father of the teenager who killed four students at a Michigan high school in 2021, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.
And sad thing is, that will probably expand so that teachers, schools, hell probably other students, will start to be charged, like its the issue.
My defense would be we live in a society that champions guns as the solution to problems. And then put on a roll of Republicans talking about how there's "2nd Amendment fix to that issue" all the movies where characters shoot their way out of problems, NRA ads, etc.
Iowa promised $75 million for school safety. Two shootings later, the money is largely unspent
Iowa's Republican governor announced in June 2022 that the state would use $75 million in federal pandemic relief funds to add security measures at schools.
'Citing an urgent need to act after Uvalde and shootings outside a high school and a church in Iowa, Gov. Kim Reynolds said the state would award up to $50,000 each to 1,500 schools to fix vulnerabilities. Like many other Republicans, she rebuffed calls for stricter gun control while embracing efforts to “harden” schools.
More than 19 months and two deadly Iowa school shootings later, the money only recently started to trickle out, with the vast majority still unspent in part due to bureaucratic delays by local and state officials, according to records reviewed by The Associated Press. Contractors helping run the program, meanwhile, have received millions.
The AP found that most schools statewide have yet to receive funding, including those in Perry, a city of 8,000 people where a Jan. 4 school shooting left two dead and several injured. A state agency last week sent a representative to help Perry district officials finish their application for a $150,000 grant through Reynolds’ program, a process they started more than a year ago.'
_____________________________________________________________________________________
Wow. Push alternatives to any kind of gun control changes, then don't follow through on the suggested alternatives. Typical rethuglicvnt playbook.
And what do you want to bet those "contractors" handling the program are somehow connected to the state officials who hired them? This is so ridiculous, but hey it's Iowa so...not shocked.
Parents need to start seeking FOIA requests into that shit, and then suing all of those involved. Unfortunately if they aren't already, conservative states will start giving politicians qualified immunity like they give to police, and then Republicans will use that to slander Democrats/liberals saying how it shows corruption. We are so fucked because of the deliberate willful way in which we refuse to hold people in this country accountable if they aren't poor or mostly just scam poor people and not wealthy people.
Oh guaranteed. Which, since everything they complain about is just their plan, like how the PPP loans and the like have made conservatives become welfare queens, constantly seeking ways to grift the system.
Can't decide what to think about this outcome. Certainly seemed that the parents were staggeringly irresponsible. But still feel a bit uneasy about how it turned out. Seems like there's an element of scapegoating about it. Just as the kid was partly a victim of lousy parenting, the parents were a product of a messed-up culture and facilitated by a flawed legal system. Could probably spread the net of criminal responsibility a lot wider. Though perhaps there wouldn't be room in prison for all those one might ultimately blame.
skyking
Lifer
- Nov 21, 2001
- 22,027
- 4,798
- 146
I'm good with that aspect. Your parents need to be your ultimate cheerleaders and leaders and examples. We need to send this message, that the responsibility is great.
- Jan 2, 2001
- 24,987
- 4,325
- 136
Both parents were sentenced to10-15 yrs. They get time served for the more than 2 years they've already been in jail. I am unable to bring up much in the way of pity for them.
www.cnn.com
Live updates: James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of Michigan school shooter, sentencing
Jennifer and James Crumbley, the parents of Michigan high school shooter Ethan Crumbley, will be sentenced after being found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Follow for live news updates.
hal2kilo
Lifer
- Feb 24, 2009
- 23,444
- 10,333
- 136
Daddy seemed to lack any empathy. Then goes on rant about the jurors not knowing the truth. Well, why don't you tell us then.Both parents were sentenced to10-15 yrs. They get time served for the more than 2 years they've already been in jail. I am unable to bring up much in the way of pity for them.
Live updates: James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of Michigan school shooter, sentencing
Jennifer and James Crumbley, the parents of Michigan high school shooter Ethan Crumbley, will be sentenced after being found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Follow for live news updates.
Saw the clip of the father speaking. Yup not genuine. Just like Jan 6 insurrectionists saying they got suckered by the orange monkey and no longer believe the election was stolen.
dainthomas
Lifer
- Dec 7, 2004
- 14,592
- 3,427
- 136
And then his phone calls from jail where he threatens the prosecutor and says "she'll be sorry." What do you mean by that, chief? I can definitely see where the kid got his psychotic anger management issues. Of course the mom thinks he's normal, he's just like her and her husband.
Jail is the perfect place for that pack of nutballs.
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