Muse
Lifer
- Jul 11, 2001
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They showed video of Trump yesterday at a rally in Alabama saying they should get vaxxed and he was booed! I studied the people behind him in the video, trying to imagine what kind of person goes to those rallies. Alabama must be full of poorly informed people.
Motostu
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- Oct 5, 2020
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Yes. Some that fit the stereotype, but also a great many that are otherwise very intelligent but have gone down the rabbit hole. My wife and I have a few friends like this, and just do our best to avoid any discussion on politics. Fortunately, unlike many in the crowd at the rally, they do at least trust the science and have been vaccinated.
K1052
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- Aug 21, 2003
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"the approval was rushed" incoming. Those people aren't gettable.
This will pave the way for more requirements though making it increasingly difficult to move through modern society without the inoculations.
ultimatebob
Lifer
- Jul 1, 2001
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Now that the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine has a brand name, does that mean we will soon be seeing more traditional drug commercials for it now?
I can't wait to see the commercials with old people driving away into the sunset in their old convertible with the voice-over:
"Side effects include (fast talking mumble mumble)... Ask your doctor if Comirnaty is right for YOU!"
I can't wait to see the commercials with old people driving away into the sunset in their old convertible with the voice-over:
"Side effects include (fast talking mumble mumble)... Ask your doctor if Comirnaty is right for YOU!"
Brainonska511
Lifer
- Dec 10, 2005
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It's not so much snooze/lose, it's more the limits of the EUA. There were already 3 effective vaccines authorized, and now one is approved. Hard to justify EUA for a fourth, and instead will probably need standard approval.
- Jan 2, 2001
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Was reading about the Pfizer approval and saw the following in the article:
"Private insurers have also begun to reinstate cost-sharing for Covid-19 hospitalizations, KFF (Kaiser Family Foundation) says, and adults can largely avoid these costs, as well as severe illness, by getting a vaccine, which is free."
Possible financial consequences for those who are voluntarily not vaccinated? Good.
www.cnn.com
"Private insurers have also begun to reinstate cost-sharing for Covid-19 hospitalizations, KFF (Kaiser Family Foundation) says, and adults can largely avoid these costs, as well as severe illness, by getting a vaccine, which is free."
Possible financial consequences for those who are voluntarily not vaccinated? Good.
FDA grants full approval to Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine
The US Food and Drug Administration has granted full approval of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine. Follow here for the latest.
gill77
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- Aug 3, 2006
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Was reading about the Pfizer approval and saw the following in the article:
"Private insurers have also begun to reinstate cost-sharing for Covid-19 hospitalizations, KFF (Kaiser Family Foundation) says, and adults can largely avoid these costs, as well as severe illness, by getting a vaccine, which is free."
Possible financial consequences for those who are voluntarily not vaccinated? Good.
FDA grants full approval to Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine
The US Food and Drug Administration has granted full approval of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine. Follow here for the latest.
Just curious, a hypothetical for you. Since the virus and the vaccines are novel and none of us have crystal balls or flux capacitors (I am assuming) there really is some probablity of a variety of different outcomes in the long term.
Should, it turn out that there were severe side effects associated with the vaccines, would you consider financial consequences for the vaccinated on top of the health issues as "Good"?
Just curious, hypothetically of course.
K1052
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gill77
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Captante
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Last I checked they were still intending to submit for EUA by the Fall. AZ too eventually. I think you might be right, and if they have to do full approval that's going to be a long time and who knows if the FDA will seriously consider it. Moderna's probally getting fully approved pretty soon.
dullard
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Just to be clear, humans using mRNA for vaccines is novel, but mRNA is not novel. mRNA has been around since the dawn of time. It is in you, it is in everything you eat. Your body has been filled with them your entire life.
Specific mRNA also lasts a couple days at most. So (1) the vaccines are made of things you are already used to and (2) the vaccine is only in your body for a couple days. All the vaccine does is tell your body to use its own immune system better. Theoretically there is no known method for there to be any long term side effects. Compare that to the the long term side effects of Covid? What are they and how do you know?
- Jan 2, 2001
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nope. I don't do hypotheticals. Too easy to make up questions that suit your own scenarios.
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sdifox
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- Sep 30, 2005
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"Pfizer COVID vaccine, it beats dying."Now that the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine has a brand name, does that mean we will soon be seeing more traditional drug commercials for it now?
I can't wait to see the commercials with old people driving away into the sunset in their old convertible with the voice-over:
"Side effects include (fast talking mumble mumble)... Ask your doctor if Comirnaty is right for YOU!"
gill77
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- Aug 3, 2006
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That certainly is a definiive answer, but I would sure like to hear the rational.
No pressure.
gill77
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How about the folks who already have experienced health effects or have died from the vaccines?
Is it good that they have financial consequences as well?
Muse
Lifer
- Jul 11, 2001
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I have read and seen videos concerning long covid (so so many horrible accounts) and I'm more than willing to "roll the dice" on possible (but as yet unknown) long term side effects of getting mRNA vaccinated. The only things assured are death and taxes, folks. I figure the risk profiles tip towards getting vaccinated. I have never refused any vaccines and have never regretted those decisions, ever. I had shingles before they had a vaccine. It was pretty nasty, back IIRC in 1993 or so. I was since offered the vaccine and took it on my doctor's advice.
Fanatical Meat
Lifer
- Feb 4, 2009
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The solution is simple. The former President will simply become anti vax and deny being vaccinated.
“What vaccine and when fake news!!!”
Kaido
Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
- Feb 14, 2004
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I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!
Fanatical Meat
Lifer
- Feb 4, 2009
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Pretty much why I don’t want a digital vaccine passport right there.
It is about what other data it collects and who/how/how long it is stored with.
I could care less about someone knowing which vaccine I had.
nakedfrog
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Zorba
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This isn't supported by science or more than a hundred years of vaccine history, so I see no reason to play antivax hypotheticals.
gill77
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nakedfrog
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