NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[Ichinisan]

Can anyone help me find this?

Somewhere in the last week I saw an article or a photo. A photographer used a zoom / telephoto lens to make it appear that people waiting outside a business were not practicing social distancing, but another photograph from a different angle revealed they there was actually a generous amount of distance between them.

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Found: https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2020...disse-billeder-er-taget-samtidig-men-viser-to

 

[shortylickens]

Can anyone help me find this?

Somewhere in the last week I saw an article or a photo. A photographer used a zoom / telephoto lens to make it appear that people waiting outside a business were not practicing social distancing, but another photograph from a different angle revealed they there was actually a generous amount of distance between them.

theres so many fuckin photos of people standing around in groups I cannot remember any of them. Its crazy. And yes I have no doubt a photographer would use basic shooting tricks to misrepresent the truth.

 

[Kaido]

"But based on what the evidence says, nah:"

Huh?

"Engineered" is different from "collected, studied, then accidentally escaped" -- which you initially seemed to understand.

"Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus."

How does this rule out accidental exposure?

To clarify, based on evidence, it seems to rule out accidental exposure of a purposefully-manipulated virus.

But it's China, and they haven't been exactly forthcoming with us over the years...

 

[Kaido]

And yes I have no doubt a photographer would use basic shooting tricks to misrepresent the truth.

Photographer Takes Pics Of People In Public From 2 Perspectives And It Shows How Easily The Media Can Manipulate Reality

Perception is reality until proven otherwise. But our perception may change in an instant depending on exactly how much we know. Photography & Digital Art

www.boredpanda.com

 

[Kaido]

"Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves (R) is reconsidering his plan to keep reversing his stay-at-home order after his state saw its largest spike in COVID-19 cases in one day following his first partial rollback. “Things can change quickly,” the GOP governor said during a press briefing on Friday. “We have to stay flexible.” Mississip State Health Officer Dr. Thomas Dobbs, who was also present at the briefing, reported that there were 397 new cases in Mississippi, “the largest number of cases we’ve reported in a single day.”

Mississippi Guv Has Second Thoughts About Stay-At-Home Order Lift After Sharp Rise In COVID-19 Cases

Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves (R) is reconsidering his plan to keep reversing his stay-at-home order after his state saw its...

talkingpointsmemo.com

To be clear, I don't mean to criticize the leaders here, because they've been handed two crappy situations: lock people down but have them get hit economically, or open things up & risk people getting infected. But as this is a serious matter of life & death, memes are always a source of comfort to me:

 

[Brainonska511]

Based on interviews with experts, I don't think I'd put much stock in so-called "lax safety practices" as observed by non-scientists in a non-critical evaluation. And based on the evidence to date, this coronavirus did not escape from a lab. Those are just narratives the Trump administration is pushing to deflect from their own, catastrophic incompetence:

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

On lab safety:

Researchers familiar with the laboratory are skeptical of claims of lax safety practices, and the Chinese virologist at the center of the allegation has asserted the virus did not escape from her laboratory.
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Carroll says he saw State Department cables discussing the lab when he was at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing, working for USAID. He notes that they were written after a diplomatic visit by nonscientists. “I didn’t place an enormous amount of weight on the observations that were made because they were not part of a critical, standardized evaluation,” says Carroll, a virologist. “If those observations were of substance … NIH would … have needed to take serious steps, because they had authorized [grant] funding [for] work in this laboratory.”

On the so-called 'lab origin hypothesis':

There is no scientific evidence that SARS-CoV-2 originated in Shi’s collection of bat viruses at WIV, though researchers concede that such an escape can’t be unequivocally ruled out. The known bat virus closest to SARS-CoV-2, although 96.2% similar, is at least 20 years removed from the pandemic virus in evolutionary time—meaning that if it escaped from a laboratory, it would have taken decades for it to evolve into the virus that has now killed more than 230,000 people to date. One Nature Medicine paper further indicated that the pandemic virus shows no signs of having been engineered by scientists, another contention of conspiracy theorists. For one thing, although the researchers note that though the virus binds to a human cellular receptor to initiate an infection, that interaction is not optimal, “strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation,” they write.

 

[PingSpike]

The Karen's in my town are bored, and are now publicly shaming people who aren't wearing face masks on the town Facebook group.

That's annoying enough on it's own, but then there is nothing in the new law that says that you need to wear a mask outside. It's only an indoor thing. So, they're really just whining over nothing most of the time.

If they ever get a HOA passed in my neighborhood, and I am peacing the F out of here and moving back into the woods. The last thing I need is these bitches complaining about the dandelions in my lawn or the color of my mailbox.

Is it possible be forced into a HOA? I mean if you bought a house that was already in one, that's one thing.

 

[PingSpike]

Teens in Georgia can now get driver's license without a roadtest due to covid-19 and social distance rules.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-drivers-test-parents-permission/

I just did this for my daughter. Now she has real driver's license without having taken the actual driving portion of the roadtest. I guess it's time to buy her new Tesla Model 3 or Y.

The road test has always been more of a formality anyway based on most of the driving I see. Best to just start issuing them at birth and give up the pretense at this point.

 

[PingSpike]

More than half of the people I see wearing surgical masks are wearing them below the nose.

I think we are too dumb.

Not saying I'm doing a great job here myself but on a video meeting the other day I watched the one on site guy first constantly adjust his mask, then pull it down so it wasn't covering his nose before finally pulling it down over his neck so he could talk to a guy that came into his cube. LOL, why bother!

Saw a guy wearing one of the good contracting respirators at the hardware store yesterday, you know the ones that are n95 and actually do something, but he had a full beard so probably made no difference.

 

[ultimatebob]

Is it possible be forced into a HOA? I mean if you bought a house that was already in one, that's one thing.

They're trying to turn the street where I live into a "Historical District". It's basically the same thing... a bunch retired old bitties trying to tell people what they can and can't do on their land.

 

[PingSpike]

They're trying to turn the street where I live into a "Historical District". It's basically the same thing... a bunch retired old bitties trying to tell people what they can and can't do on their land.

Ah, that might be even worse than a HOA. There were some old country stores around here that had that happen to them. They tried burning the building down by "accident" to escape but they kept collecting money to restore it. I think last funding round failed and the owners' suffering finally came to an end.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Not saying I'm doing a great job here myself but on a video meeting the other day I watched the one on site guy first constantly adjust his mask, then pull it down so it wasn't covering his nose before finally pulling it down over his neck so he could talk to a guy that came into his cube. LOL, why bother!

Saw a guy wearing one of the good contracting respirators at the hardware store yesterday, you know the ones that are n95 and actually do something, but he had a full beard so probably made no difference.

This is PRECISELY what I've been preaching

The general message I've heard is "Yeah it's not for disease prevention it's to remind people not to touch your face" etc.

Which is bullshit. Having something on your face that wasn't there in your normal life for the last 10+ years means you are MORE LIKELY to mess with it.

 

[Ichinisan]

theres so many fuckin photos of people standing around in groups I cannot remember any of them. Its crazy. And yes I have no doubt a photographer would use basic shooting tricks to misrepresent the truth.

Found: https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2020...disse-billeder-er-taget-samtidig-men-viser-to

 

[Ichinisan]

Photographer Takes Pics Of People In Public From 2 Perspectives And It Shows How Easily The Media Can Manipulate Reality

Perception is reality until proven otherwise. But our perception may change in an instant depending on exactly how much we know. Photography & Digital Art

www.boredpanda.com

Thanks. I found it while the forum was offline last night.

 

[Ichinisan]

This is PRECISELY what I've been preaching

The general message I've heard is "Yeah it's not for disease prevention it's to remind people not to touch your face" etc.

Which is bullshit. Having something on your face that wasn't there in your normal life for the last 10+ years means you are MORE LIKELY to mess with it.

Asia laughs at us for having this attitude about masks. Masks obviously help to reduce viral load.

Obviously.

 

[K1052]

Asia laughs at us for having this attitude about masks. Masks obviously help to reduce viral load.

Obviously.

Keeping droplets off each other, out of the air, and off high touch surfaces seems to help a great deal. Even though masks are certainly imperfect everybody wearing them likely has a significant impact to transmission. Behavior modifications that also reduce droplet production also seem to be a focus of asian efforts.

 

[mrblotto]

They're trying to turn the street where I live into a "Historical District". It's basically the same thing... a bunch retired old bitties trying to tell people what they can and can't do on their land.

Can you 'do stuff to/with your land' now and NOT be forced to 'undo' it if/when this hysterical historical district comes into being?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

For HOAs (at least for me) it's always been a "Sign it before you buy the house" kind of deal. I don't see how they can enforce community rules without making you sign something first.

 

[CZroe]

For HOAs (at least for me) it's always been a "Sign it before you buy the house" kind of deal. I don't see how they can enforce community rules without making you sign something first.

These "historical societies," "landmark commissions," and "preservation groups" rule with tyranny of the masses and what they feel is a righteous cause, though often misguided.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[IronWing]

For HOAs (at least for me) it's always been a "Sign it before you buy the house" kind of deal. I don't see how they can enforce community rules without making you sign something first.

A builder tried to drag a neighbor across the street from us into the HOA he was setting up for the new stucco ghetto he was building as the neighbor's property rubbed butts with his. He recorded a restrictive covenant on their property so they had to lawyer up and sue his ass. They won, of course, but it was a pain to deal with. Had he prevailed, they would have had to pay HOA fees and follow the rules the builder had crafted even though their property was never owned by him.

 

[IronWing]

These "historical societies," "landmark commissions," and "preservation groups" rule with tyranny of the masses and what they feel is a righteous cause, though often misguided.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

Takes them 14 minutes to reveal the guy's building schematic to demonstrate that is an overbearing eyesore. "To save the village, we must destroy the village."

 

[CZroe]

Takes them 14 minutes to reveal the guy's building schematic to demonstrate that is an overbearing eyesore. "To save the village, we must destroy the village."

It was previously a laundry mat. How quaint.

 

[IronWing]

It was previously a laundry mat. How quaint.

As much as I disliked going to laundry mats, I never once thought that I'd rather one not be there.

 

[JEDI]

 

[CZroe]

As much as I disliked going to laundry mats, I never once thought that I'd rather one not be there.

They aren't mutually-exclusive. The beauty of it is that most apartment complexes have them and they can even keep the ground floor a public laundry.

If the market demands both then the market will get both as long as they are free to cater to market demands for housing AND laundromats.