NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

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Yea. I've noticed that many of the younger people (40-60 yr olds) who have died from this disease tend to be overweight.

They also might have type2 diabetes, and/or high blood pressure.
I dont know any 40-60 year olds who dont have some sort of underlying health issue. I wish people would stop victim shaming the dead and using it as a crutch for their own anxiety. These are just normal people with normal health problems.
 

pmv

Lifer
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Hmm, going solely by the data on that worldometer site, it seems like the number of new cases today was a substantial drop over the number yesterday, for pretty much every northern hemisphere country. In almost all of them either today or yesterday showed a reversal in the trend of each day's 'new cases' being higher than the day before. In the southern hemisphere countries that seemed to be the reverse.

I guess that could indicate that warmer weather does indeed reduce the transmission rate? Doesn't mean it's going to decline relentlessly, but it might be a positive sign - till the autumn makes it start accelerating again.
 

Mai72

Lifer
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Hmm, going solely by the data on that worldometer site, it seems like the number of new cases today was a substantial drop over the number yesterday, for pretty much every northern hemisphere country. In almost all of them either today or yesterday showed a reversal in the trend of each day's 'new cases' being higher than the day before. In the southern hemisphere countries that seemed to be the reverse.

I guess that could indicate that warmer weather does indeed reduce the transmission rate? Doesn't mean it's going to decline relentlessly, but it might be a positive sign - till the autumn makes it start accelerating again.

Well in the Philippines COVID-19 cases are spiking. It's currently 92 degrees there. SE Asia is expecting a surge of new cases SE Asia's climate is HOT.

 

DrMrLordX

Lifer
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I got my postcard yesterday. Getting hygiene tips from a guy who bangs porn stars is a bit odd.

That's not fair to the porn stars. At least the professional ones have to be tested rigorously, and in some places, they have to use barrier protection to film anything.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
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People seem to forget that being overweight is a pre-existing health condition. And we have a lottttt of overweight people in this country
I'm cautious about all these "previously healthy folks." I can't tell you how many times I've had someone say, "I've never had any health problems," but not had been seen by a doctor in decades only to turn out to be diabetic, hypertensive, etc for likely years.

Now, there are a lotta young folks who are less likely chronically ill dying here, too, which is scary. Other risk factors perhaps? Vaping? Weed? Genetics?
 

highland145

Lifer
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They figured out how to re-purpose CPAP breathing machines for sleep apnea to use for ventilators:

That occurred to me last week but I did not stay at the Holiday inn. Having no idea what's involved with a vent but we do have have lots of home cpap machines.
 

Exterous

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lol fuck universities.

Even an ounce of research will show you that the costs dedicated to actually paying professors has remained relatively stagnant. What has skyrocketed is bullshit "administrative" positions over the last 30 years.

Well that's what happens when a litany ofmajor federal regulations applies to them and they get conflicting laws. GLBA, HIPPA, PCI, CUI, FERPA, PII, PCI, Title IX all apply and need staff to try and maintain compliance. And they have to deal with Federal laws that require one thing and state laws that literally require the opposite. The cost is significant in terms of money, additional staff and staff time

 

highland145

Lifer
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Well that's what happens when a litany ofmajor federal regulations applies to them and they get conflicting laws. GLBA, HIPPA, PCI, CUI, FERPA, PII, PCI, Title IX all apply and need staff to try and maintain compliance. And they have to deal with Federal laws that require one thing and state laws that literally require the opposite. The cost is significant in terms of money, additional staff and staff time

But the government made up for it by giving students guaranteed loans, amirite?



That had never occurred to me before. The more you know...
 
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K1052

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I'm cautious about all these "previously healthy folks." I can't tell you how many times I've had someone say, "I've never had any health problems," but not had been seen by a doctor in decades only to turn out to be diabetic, hypertensive, etc for likely years.

Now, there are a lotta young folks who are less likely chronically ill dying here, too, which is scary. Other risk factors perhaps? Vaping? Weed? Genetics?

Yes, this is a common theme of what I've been reading. Also there is a difference between no pre-existing conditions and conditions that are relatively easily managed in this era with drugs. Read "Healthy person X has severe case of COVID" only to find out a few paragraphs down they are diabetic or asthmatic.

The only reason I can say confidently that I've got no likely problems is I see my doc every three months and leave several tubes of blood lighter every time.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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Well in the Philippines COVID-19 cases are spiking. It's currently 92 degrees there. SE Asia is expecting a surge of new cases SE Asia's climate is HOT.


Yeah, I'm not an epidemiologist or virologist! Just desperate for some good news. Also someone who the other day made a guess about how US new case numbers would increase over the next few days only for the numbers to drop instead.

Just saying the graphs of daily new cases for every country I look at (US, UK, Spain, Netherlands, France,Belgium, Switzerland...), peaked in the last couple of days, and is now seeing slightly fewer daily new cases than before. But not the case for Australia or the Philippines (which is only a bit north of the equator, right?). I dunno, just seems odd the same pattern is there for so many different countries. If it isn't the season, why is it happening to all of them? The other possibility is maybe the lock-down policies are now having an effect? Could be that, I guess.
 

CZroe

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Yes, this is a common theme of what I've been reading. Also there is a difference between no pre-existing conditions and conditions that are relatively easily managed in this era with drugs. Read "Healthy person X has severe case of COVID" only to find out a few paragraphs down they are diabetic or asthmatic.

The only reason I can say confidently that I've got no likely problems is I see my doc every three months and leave several tubes of blood lighter every time.

Why does your doctor want so much blood so regularly if you have no health problems?

Hmm, going solely by the data on that worldometer site, it seems like the number of new cases today was a substantial drop over the number yesterday, for pretty much every northern hemisphere country. In almost all of them either today or yesterday showed a reversal in the trend of each day's 'new cases' being higher than the day before. In the southern hemisphere countries that seemed to be the reverse.

I guess that could indicate that warmer weather does indeed reduce the transmission rate? Doesn't mean it's going to decline relentlessly, but it might be a positive sign - till the autumn makes it start accelerating again.

Yeah, I'm not an epidemiologist or virologist! Just desperate for some good news. Also someone who the other day made a guess about how US new case numbers would increase over the next few days only for the numbers to drop instead.

Just saying the graphs of daily new cases for every country I look at (US, UK, Spain, Netherlands, France,Belgium, Switzerland...), peaked in the last couple of days, and is now seeing slightly fewer daily new cases than before. But not the case for Australia or the Philippines (which is only a bit north of the equator, right?). I dunno, just seems odd the same pattern is there for so many different countries. If it isn't the season, why is it happening to all of them? The other possibility is maybe the lock-down policies are now having an effect? Could be that, I guess.
If you count today's new cases before the day is done, of course it will look like a drop at the start of the day because they reset to zero and begin tallying from there throughout the day. Only the previous day's numbers count until you have the final tally for the next day... which can't happen until tomorrow. New cases will be verified throughout the day just like new deaths will be added throughout the day. Can't count your chickens before they hatch.

New cases in the US jumped twice as I wrote this:

This stream updates in "real time" as new cases are reported.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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Why does your doctor want so much blood so regularly if you have no health problems?




If you count today's numbers before the day is done, sure. They reset to zero every day and begin tallying from there throughout the day. Only the previous day's numbers count until you have the final tally for the next day... which can't happen until tomorrow. New cases will be verified throughout the day just like new deaths will be added throughout the day. Can't count your chickens before they hatch.

New cases in the US jumped twice as I wrote this:

This stream updates in "real time" as new cases are reported.


Could be, haven't noticed how it works (on that worldometer site), maybe they retrospectively revise yesterday's numbers sometimes as late data comes in. Also of course(as with climate change!) you can't be sure of 'trends' till you get a reasonable time period of data. "US deaths" had a particularly anomalous day yesterday, but I guess, sadly, that could easily be subject to revision/updating. (Was hoping it meant something good had happened).

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repoman0

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I know a handful of people who have it at this point, but one scary one is a guy my age (late 20s) who is fit and eats healthy, gym five days a week, only went out twice to go to the grocery store twice in the past weeks and wore gloves and wiped down food — currently is in the hospital on a respirator.
 

pmv

Lifer
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Radio Free Asia reporting deaths in China very likely far higher than reported. probably in the 40 thousand + range. :

Wouldn't surprise me at all. Seems quite possible they mislead the world about the deadliness of this thing.


I don't really trust the WHO in relation to China either. But it's nuanced, I think the WHO had some things right, in terms of telling Western governments to be more aggressive about tackling this than they were being. But the level of praise some of the WHO guys heaped on China was a bit weird. And look at this, for example - WHO guy doesn't want to even mention the existence of Taiwan. What's going on there?


Hmm, maybe the WHO was so keen on telling Western governments they were being complacent and needed to do more, precisely becuase they knew or suspected the Chinese were undercounting deaths and underplaying the deadliness of the thing, but felt politically unable to outright say so?
 
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