NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[CZroe]

This dude has this video up since January 26:

@ Least for Portugal, the info is correct.

Noticed the Cayman Islands had 1 case with 1 death.

100% death rate?!

 

[IronWing]

Anyone tracking the coronavirus updates that Bing has displayed, showing total cases/deaths/recoveries?

Yesterday it showed 93 US deaths, but today it's down to 85. I've been tracking it daily and that makes no sense, unless the WHO/CDC/whatever other agency decided causes of death were not attributable to C19.

Dude, do you even Christian?

 

[ponyo]

My sister texted me this morning saying her dental office is going to temporary close starting next month. Basically, unless it's for emergency procedure, her dental office will remain closed. My sister works as dental hygienist which is normally one of the most recession proof profession. But she doesn't have much savings and she's worried about her mortgage and car purchased recently. . I told her don't worry. But I am worried for people like her. If things get bad, I'm going to make her mortgage and car payment for her and float her until things get better. I haven't told my wife this but that's my plan.

 

[H T C]

Noticed the Cayman Islands had 1 case with 1 death.

100% death rate?!

Perhaps that individual died there and they figured out it was due to the virus after?

Dunno: just a guess.

 

[Roger Wilco]

U.S. deaths are unfortunately at 97 now, and 26 of them have been in the last 24 hours. Expect those numbers to exponentially increase day after day. Hopefully the massive lockdowns should be able to mitigate the surge. New York is going to get pretty rough very quickly.

Italy's new case and new death numbers have been consistent over the past few days, which hopefully means they've successfully flattened the curve. Italy's CFR right now is a horrifying 8%. I hope much of that is due to their inability to test everyone and, to a lesser extent, the strain put on the hospitals.

 

[ponyo]

The peak of the crisis in the US is when Florida blows up. With all the old people in Florida, it's going get extremely ugly down there. As sick as it sounds, that's going to be our Italy moment. And that's when I think the stock market will bottom.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Anyone who suggests performing medical experiments on unwilling persons is an asshole. End of story. It’s not complicated. Evil too.

It's an excellent opportunity to get inmates to volunteer for a sentence reduction or a trip to a halfway house . . . or something. But forcing it on them? Yeah, that's not a good idea at all.

but i STILL WONDER CAN YOU GET IT FROM INFECTED FOOD..

Pretty much no. You don't get the cold or influenza from eating food that has been prepared normally during flu season. Believe it or not, proper hygiene is a major part of most food preparation. Restaurants that can't maintain proper hygiene are often caught and fined for spreading much more common foodborne illnesses. You would have to find someone literally drooling all over your food after preparation, which is not likely to happen. Then the majority of the virus would wind up in your gastrointestinal system which is not a major site for infection. It might get your throat on the way down or it might not.

That is very low risk situation.

 

[H T C]

The peak of the crisis in the US is when Florida blows up. With all the old people in Florida, it's going get extremely ugly down there. As sick as it sounds, that's going to be our Italy moment. And that's when I think the stock market will bottom.

The measures the various countries take TODAY will begin to show their effects after the incubation period is over. That incubation period is THOUGHT to be 14 days.

Italy shut itself off 9 days ago: the effects of such a measure will take 5 more days to show themselves. UNTIL THEN, this virus will continue it's exponential growth.

 

[jmagg]

I'm counting on my 75% PG vape liquid to save my life. /s?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4415329/

 

[Brainonska511]

Noticed the Cayman Islands had 1 case with 1 death.

100% death rate?!

Per a letter in Lancet, we may want to look at deaths per cases from 14 days prior instead of total deaths/total cases, since new infections will take time to increase in severity: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30195-X/fulltext

 

[CZroe]

It's an excellent opportunity to get inmates to volunteer for a sentence reduction or a trip to a halfway house . . . or something. But forcing it on them? Yeah, that's not a good idea at all.



Pretty much no. You don't get the cold or influenza from eating food that has been prepared normally during flu season. Believe it or not, proper hygiene is a major part of most food preparation. Restaurants that can't maintain proper hygiene are often caught and fined for spreading much more common foodborne illnesses. You would have to find someone literally drooling all over your food after preparation, which is not likely to happen. Then the majority of the virus would wind up in your gastrointestinal system which is not a major site for infection. It might get your throat on the way down or it might not.

That is very low risk situation.

So, some dude hands you your drink at the drive through window and there's zero chance that he contaminated the straw wrapper or cup that you just touched too. Tear that straw open and jam it in! Lick your hands while you're at it.

Most places have gone drive-thru/delivery only. The people at the drive thru are handling people's money, credit/gift cards... and worse. Heck, just this weekend my brother used a coupon from the McDonald's app and the window worker took his $1,450+ phone inside to scan the code instead of just remembering the four-character code to punch in at the counter.

Yeah, if these people are handling everyone's money, cards, phones, etc then there is God-knows what on your cup, wrapper, bag, etc. Somehow I don't take comfort in how the food itself is prepared either.

Per a letter in Lancet, we may want to look at deaths per cases from 14 days prior instead of total deaths/total cases, since new infections will take time to increase in severity: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30195-X/fulltext

So... 1 death and potentially less than 1 cases?! You might not even have to have it to die from it?! We're all gonna die! D:

Just saying: they've obviously got a lot of unreported cases too, as do others in the list of countries with one case.

 

[Mai72]

Italians have a message for the rest of the world. We are about 1 week behind Italy. If this message doesn't worry you and to get you to stay HOME, I don't know what will.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

It's an excellent opportunity to get inmates to volunteer for a sentence reduction or a trip to a halfway house . . . or something. But forcing it on them? Yeah, that's not a good idea at all.



Pretty much no. You don't get the cold or influenza from eating food that has been prepared normally during flu season. Believe it or not, proper hygiene is a major part of most food preparation. Restaurants that can't maintain proper hygiene are often caught and fined for spreading much more common foodborne illnesses. You would have to find someone literally drooling all over your food after preparation, which is not likely to happen. Then the majority of the virus would wind up in your gastrointestinal system which is not a major site for infection. It might get your throat on the way down or it might not.

That is very low risk situation.

Yep, infinitely more likely to get a viral infection walking into/out of a restaurant than from the food itself.

 

[Svnla]

Texas has 10 infections and 1 death - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200310/coronavirus-in-texas-what-we-know-latest-updates

Louisiana has 171 infections and 4 deaths - https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_7cb2af1c-6414-11ea-b729-93612370dd94.html

 

[Atreus21]

Dude, do you even Christian?

Wha?

 

[Mai72]

I feel sorry for anyone whose still working at Supermarkets, and places like WaWa, Sheetz, Walmart, etc. The infected are walking into those stores to buy food, smokes, etc. I know that these places need to be kept open for people to buy basic needs, but we need to find creative ways around this. Maybe Walmart should do curb side delivery only? It just seems crazy to keep these places open. The people who work there are going to get infected. I know a 68 year old lady whose working at both a supermarket and a small convenience store. She works as a cashier. She is exposing herself to this virus every frekin minute. She has a husband who has a host of health issues. She should be home. Away from people. ASAP.

Are these markets considered liable if workers start to get sick? Could they be sued if a worker gets sicks, infects their loved ones, etc Just curious.

 

[BudAshes]

cash for clunkers: put more EV and hybrid on the road that otherwise would have existed. When global oil prices plummeted--a cartel-owned pricing thing that no democratic government anywhere can control--stupid americans went on buying more stupid, pointless, SUVs that not one single american needs. There is no policy that can fix inbred stupidity like that, and I'm sure you realize that.

I'm an American and I need my SUV... Now It's not my commuter vehicle but it certainly is something that is required for my lifestyle. Snow, trails, great dane transport, people transport, gear transport, toughness/reliability etc. American's live in a lot of remote places, it's a huge country. That being said there are a lot of people in places like LA that just get one because they are douchebags and want to look like they actually do cool things when they really just go from starbucks to their kids school and back.

 

[CZroe]

Italians have a message for the rest of the world. We are about 1 week behind Italy. If this message doesn't worry you and to get you to stay HOME, I don't know what will.

They forgot to communicate the "worrying" part. None of them were sick. None of them were talking about lost loved ones. None of them seemed to be in a particularly worse situation than they were telling their past selves to avoid. All of them just seemed to be telling themselves to do what they are already doing (staying home) while quirky music played.

Sorry, but that was one of the most pointless things I've ever watched.

 

[thestrangebrew1]

Nothing official but getting word we might have our first confirmed in my County.

 

[mopardude87]

LOL this article and actual news story is precious, i would seriously recommend a game of Simon says over this.

Police department asking for all criminal activities to be halted amid coronavirus pandemic

The department posted the tongue-in-cheek to message to its Facebook page

www.kget.com

 

[DrMrLordX]

So, some dude hands you your drink at the drive through window and there's zero chance that he contaminated the straw wrapper or cup that you just touched too. Tear that straw open and jam it in! Lick your hands while you're at it.

Most places have gone drive-thru/delivery only. The people at the drive thru are handling people's money, credit/gift cards... and worse. Heck, just this weekend my brother used a coupon from the McDonald's app and the window worker took his $1,450+ phone inside to scan the code instead of just remembering the four-character code to punch in at the counter.

Yeah, if these people are handling everyone's money, cards, phones, etc then there is God-knows what on your cup, wrapper, bag, etc. Somehow I don't take comfort in how the food itself is prepared either.

The handling of non-food items is a much greater concern than the food itself. And yes, the cashiers are a major potential point of infection. That being said, all that one cashier has to do is wash hands or disinfect between clients, or use gloves. Some of them I've noticed are starting to use gloves.

Yep, infinitely more likely to get a viral infection walking into/out of a restaurant than from the food itself.

Pretty much. It's the non-food surfaces that should worry people. Door handles, keypads, etc.

 

[CZroe]

The handling of non-food items is a much greater concern than the food itself. And yes, the cashiers are a major potential point of infection. That being said, all that one cashier has to do is wash hands or disinfect between clients, or use gloves. Some of them I've noticed are starting to use gloves.



Pretty much. It's the non-food surfaces that should worry people. Door handles, keypads, etc.

No comfort to be found in any of this. If you have to interact with them to get the food it's a distinction without much of a difference. You have to handle the containers and bags and wrappers to consume them and it doesn't even matter if you wash your hands again first.

The person at the payment window who took my card yesterday was wearing gloves, which is good for them when they take them off to eat, but those same gloves were used to touch the cards, cash, and phones of people who came before me... then they hand me my card back when I'm about to eat. Again: no comfort.

I can't recall if the person at the pickup window was wearing gloves but, regardless, he handed me the straw with the drink. That means the two items were touching, conferring wetness (condensation and soda drops) along with whatever else was on his hands/the cup INTO the straw wrapper and directly to the straw that was about to be plunged into my drink. No, he didn't swirl his finger in my drink but he may as well have. Very few places put your straw in the bag since they often give you the drink first while you wait for the food. Even if they did, you wash your hands and you're forced to touch the same wrapper they touched before you unwrap it, contaminating the straw with your hands. No comfort.

Not saying I'm too scared to eat out (clearly, I'm not) but I can't delude myself into thinking it's any less risky than it is.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

So, it's now gotten to the point that when I refresh the coronavirus tracker pages periodically through the day, it increases case counts of several thousand at once, and death counts of several hundred at once. Exponential escalation sucks.

Also, EU just closed borders, so there's that.

 

[killster1]

It says "elderly and disabled", so if you're disabled, you should be included?
It's in Australia anyway, they may not be as sue-happy.

lulz it was a joke saying im disabled. my disability is the fact i have to shop on my lunch break.. i guess i should have been more clear.

no, that's not at all what this is. It's "time rationing" for specific populations at a time, which is exactly what we should be doing.

What I've heard from my family living in SF is that stores clean and sterilize, then open only for the elderly and most susceptible, then the younger crowds can come in, limited numbers at a time.

weird how you would interpret what you did from what this is.

 

[Muse]

This is a Coronavirus winter, and this is the first week. America is not prepared.

I thought that this comment is so key. If this is with us for the foreseable future, stockpiling food and toilet paper isn't going to matter much. Eventually, you will run out. Trump has even said that this could potentially last into Aug. There is so much that we don't know. My question is are you prepared for this to last 6 months or longer? You have to wonder what would the US response be if this is with us for a long time. Do we just give up, resume our way of life and let the cards fall where they may? Like the flu, eventually our body will develop natural anitbodies to this virus. We could potentially see some horrible things in that time. Or, do we still fight this virus. A 1 month hiatus from activity is one thing. 3 months? 6 months? Longer? That's a scary thought.

US isn't prepared for outbreak: This is a 'coronavirus winter, and we're in the first week,' disease specialist says

COVID-19 has infected more than 755 Americans, according to Johns Hopkins University, and killed at least 26.

www.cnbc.com

You keep linking Osterholm videos. Get some breadth. Osterholm has a stake in this he's published books. Find some experts who have nothing material to gain by making themselves famous.